I'm just quoting what you said and asking you a question about it and you're dancing like a Kunt.
You claimed that this was a "shift."
“9 in 10 respondents said that men should help others, 88% agreed that men should be open to new ideas, new people and new experiences. 8 in 10 felt it imperative that men give back to their community”
Okay, it's a "shift." For it to be a "shift" then wouldn't there had to have been a time when those numbers weren't the norm? Don't blame me because you can't back up your mouth.
You are one angry little man.
There's a mission and there's crazy. You crossed into nutty a long tim ago.
Okay I get it. He was just emoting and I'm "angry" for asking him how it is a "shift." I should realize he was just emoting and not ask him to explain what the fuck he is talking about. Way to come running with the ass tonguing Coug, I have to hand it to you.
I'm just quoting what you said and asking you a question about it and you're dancing like a Kunt.
You claimed that this was a "shift."
“9 in 10 respondents said that men should help others, 88% agreed that men should be open to new ideas, new people and new experiences. 8 in 10 felt it imperative that men give back to their community”
Okay, it's a "shift." For it to be a "shift" then wouldn't there had to have been a time when those numbers weren't the norm? Don't blame me because you can't back up your mouth.
“The research shows that younger men tend to value selflessness over...traditional values like physical strength and autonomy”
Third time I’ve quoted the article we’re discussing. Third time.
This is my opinion, and I'm fine with the millennials disagreeing, but I would suspect that many of those respondents answered the way they did because they aren't capable of being autonomous. They've been coddled to need the help of others on their lives to manage their emotions, etc. It's imperative to give back to the community because they need that community to exist for their own benefit, too.
Great you can quote it you just can’t defend it. Btw, what the fuck do you think I’m quoting?
Jesus Bob. The shift is how millennials rank the importance of the different categories. It's not saying that other generations don't value selfeness or new ideas. It's saying that millennials rank selflessness higher than traits like phsyical strength which implies that other generations ranked physical strength above selflessness. The raw score of each category doesn't really matter....if you take this fluff piece at face value.
“The research showed that younger men tend to value selflessness, social engagement and health over traditional ideals like physical strength and autonomy”
As I’ve said before, we millennials are better than you. Imagine being so fucked up you value physical strength over selflessness. Who’s obsessed with their superficial image?
“9 in 10 respondents said that men should help others, 88% agreed that men should be open to new ideas, new people and new experiences. 8 in 10 felt it imperative that men give back to their community”
Remember this is counter to you. This is a shift. Looks like all those participation trophies paid off.
Real Men always need to be able to kick ass! Whats more selfless winning wars or helping out with a recycling project? Real Men have ALWAYS helped others. Being a pansy hasn't helped anything more than the percentage of people with AIDS and interior decorating.
“The research showed that younger men tend to value selflessness, social engagement and health over traditional ideals like physical strength and autonomy”
As I’ve said before, we millennials are better than you. Imagine being so fucked up you value physical strength over selflessness. Who’s obsessed with their superficial image?
“9 in 10 respondents said that men should help others, 88% agreed that men should be open to new ideas, new people and new experiences. 8 in 10 felt it imperative that men give back to their community”
Remember this is counter to you. This is a shift. Looks like all those participation trophies paid off.
Real Men always need to be able to kick ass! Whats more selfless winning wars or helping out with a recycling project? Real Men have ALWAYS helped others. Being a pansy hasn't helped anything more than the percentage of people with AIDS and interior decorating.
Who do you think has been fighting your wars in the Middle East for the last 17 years?
“The research showed that younger men tend to value selflessness, social engagement and health over traditional ideals like physical strength and autonomy”
As I’ve said before, we millennials are better than you. Imagine being so fucked up you value physical strength over selflessness. Who’s obsessed with their superficial image?
“9 in 10 respondents said that men should help others, 88% agreed that men should be open to new ideas, new people and new experiences. 8 in 10 felt it imperative that men give back to their community”
Remember this is counter to you. This is a shift. Looks like all those participation trophies paid off.
Real Men always need to be able to kick ass! Whats more selfless winning wars or helping out with a recycling project? Real Men have ALWAYS helped others. Being a pansy hasn't helped anything more than the percentage of people with AIDS and interior decorating.
Tuff war talk for a guy who's never served. But Im sure that being a firearms expert who says he'd stop a school shooting Texas Walker style is pretty much the same thing as being in special forces.
I like to try to generalize a generation of millions of people and claim to be an intellectual. I like to do that.
And for the record, "emotional strength" has never been at odds with "traditional masculinity."
Agree. Read the letters Civil War soldiers wrote to their wives/sweethearts...some of those are damn poetic. Then the next day those same soldiers would bayonet somebody. Tough as nails. Sensitive and strong aren’t mutually exclusive.
I'm just quoting what you said and asking you a question about it and you're dancing like a Kunt.
You claimed that this was a "shift."
“9 in 10 respondents said that men should help others, 88% agreed that men should be open to new ideas, new people and new experiences. 8 in 10 felt it imperative that men give back to their community”
Okay, it's a "shift." For it to be a "shift" then wouldn't there had to have been a time when those numbers weren't the norm? Don't blame me because you can't back up your mouth.
You are one angry little man.
There's a mission and there's crazy. You crossed into nutty a long tim ago.
Okay I get it. He was just emoting and I'm "angry" for asking him how it is a "shift." I should realize he was just emoting and not ask him to explain what the fuck he is talking about. Way to come running with the ass tonguing Coug, I have to hand it to you.
I didn't dive into the thread topic and DRGAF. So I didn't come running for anything other than to see if you're still at it. I got what I needed.
This is my opinion, and I'm fine with the millennials disagreeing, but I would suspect that many of those respondents answered the way they did because they aren't capable of being autonomous. They've been coddled to need the help of others on their lives to manage their emotions, etc. It's imperative to give back to the community because they need that community to exist for their own benefit, too.
I think this is partially correct but you also need to take into account that that these millennial men have grown up in a society where they've been conditioned to tamp down their masculinity and where they are rewarded for giving the answers they gave in this survey. They've been socialized to be more like women and browbeaten into giving the answers they have given in this survey whether they really believe it or not.
Millennial men may say it's important to give back to the community because they think that's what they should say but there's no evidence that they are actually doing it at any greater rate than earlier generations have done.
In fact if you look at participation rates in service organizations like the Lions and Rotary Clubs membership numbers are down. Millennials most likely talk a big game about giving back and promote their volunteer work in the social media but they aren't actually doing it at a greater rate then men from earlier generations.
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Third time I’ve quoted the article we’re discussing. Third time.
And for the record, "emotional strength" has never been at odds with "traditional masculinity."
Unless it's the end of something badass like gladiator. Tears of toughness.
You have to be a loon.
Christ man.
Bob is his own zip code here. If you can't see that, then I really can't help you.
Millennial men may say it's important to give back to the community because they think that's what they should say but there's no evidence that they are actually doing it at any greater rate than earlier generations have done.
In fact if you look at participation rates in service organizations like the Lions and Rotary Clubs membership numbers are down. Millennials most likely talk a big game about giving back and promote their volunteer work in the social media but they aren't actually doing it at a greater rate then men from earlier generations.