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Cost is no object: Scotch or Bourbon?

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Cost is no object: Scotch or Bourbon? 27 votes

Scotch
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ThomasFremontMad_SongreenbloodDennis_DeYoungGladstoneLebamDawgSourcesPitchfork51Doog_de_JourIce_HolmvikYellowSnow89uteGilbystaintUW_Doog_Botsinceredawg 15 votes
Bourbon
44%
DerekJohnsonWhiskeyDawgHouhuskyBennyBeaverRoadDawg55DeepSeaZYouKnowItchuckTequillaPurpleThrobberBearsWiinStLouisDawg 12 votes
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,644 Founders Club
    Scotch
    I've prided myself over the years on being a bourbon man first and foremost. But the older I get, I've noticed my palate changing and find myself more and more in the mood for scotch. This really sucks for me because unlike many of you who are rich, I am a pour.
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  • Gilbystaint
    Gilbystaint Member Posts: 1,061
    Scotch
    I have retired from this and normally bypass these discussions. I loved Scotch and always considered bourbon was best in coke, then I had a good one, then I loved both.
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  • YouKnowIt
    YouKnowIt Member Posts: 545
    Bourbon
    Pappy
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,644 Founders Club
    Scotch
    Gilbystaint said:

    I have retired from this and normally bypass these discussions. I loved Scotch and always considered bourbon was best in coke, then I had a good one, then I loved both.

    I think we all go through the progression with bourbon- i.e., first with coke, then on rocks, and then if you're a real aficionado, neat with a few drops of water.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,644 Founders Club
    Scotch
    YouKnowIt said:

    Pappy

    I've never had it, sadly. I wish is was easier to come by but I'm not a connected guy I reckon.
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    edited September 2018
    Scotch
    It depends on the scotch.

    I'd take Bourbon over the best Lowland Scotch, but the best Highland scotches have no rival.

    Islay Scotches are great too, but you kind of have to be in the mood. The peat can be a bit overpowering, which a drop of water usually fixes.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,644 Founders Club
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    I had an epiphany the other day drinking Glenlivit 12 which is cheap ($34 at Costco before tax) and I refer to it as the Coors Light of single malts; BUT it's pretty decent whisky and I'd rather sip on it than $30 bourbon to be honest. Ralfy (ralfy.com) even gives it a malt mark of 83/100 which means it's not total shit.


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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,644 Founders Club
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    greenblood said:

    It depends on the scotch.

    I'd take Bourbon over the best Lowland Scotch, but the best Highland scotches have no rival.

    Islay Scotches are great too, but you kind of have to be in the mood. The peat can be a bit overpowering, which a drop of water usually fixes.

    When my wife was last pregnant, she couldn't even be in the same room with me and the Laphroaig.
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  • DeepSeaZ
    DeepSeaZ Member Posts: 3,901
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    YellowSnow said:

    YouKnowIt said:

    Pappy

    I've never had it, sadly. I wish is was easier to come by but I'm not a connected guy I reckon.
    Used to drink it before it became insanely expensive. It’s good but it’s not worth the price. There is a newer local one I’m into now. Deceptivus.
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  • Gilbystaint
    Gilbystaint Member Posts: 1,061
    Scotch
    YellowSnow said:

    greenblood said:

    It depends on the scotch.

    I'd take Bourbon over the best Lowland Scotch, but the best Highland scotches have no rival.

    Islay Scotches are great too, but you kind of have to be in the mood. The peat can be a bit overpowering, which a drop of water usually fixes.

    When my wife was last pregnant, she couldn't even be in the same room with me and the Laphroaig.
    My wife didn’t have to be pregnant. Scotches are best enjoyed without the wimnin’ folk,
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    The ONLY reason not to choose scotch is the insane price. If that barrier gets removed, I’m going to pound town.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,644 Founders Club
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    ThomasFremont said:

    The ONLY reason not to choose scotch is the insane price. If that barrier gets removed, I’m going to pound town.

    Think about it this way: "cheap" single malts are aged 10- 12 years. For cheap bourbon it's 4- 6 typically some some like Eagle Rare being 10 year statements. Elijah Craig used to be 12 year old but they've since back off that (running out of stock of spirit that has been aged that long). You just don't see many bourbons that are more than 12 years old.
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    edited September 2018
    Scotch
    Gilbystaint said:

    YellowSnow said:

    greenblood said:

    It depends on the scotch.

    I'd take Bourbon over the best Lowland Scotch, but the best Highland scotches have no rival.

    Islay Scotches are great too, but you kind of have to be in the mood. The peat can be a bit overpowering, which a drop of water usually fixes.

    When my wife was last pregnant, she couldn't even be in the same room with me and the Laphroaig.
    My wife didn’t have to be pregnant. Scotches are best enjoyed without the wimnin’ folk,
    Not necessarily... one day my wife came home from a bad day at work and threw down 4 pours of an Oban 14 (I know, cool story, and no pics). I knew right then that I married right.
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    Scotch
    YellowSnow said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    The ONLY reason not to choose scotch is the insane price. If that barrier gets removed, I’m going to pound town.

    Think about it this way: "cheap" single malts are aged 10- 12 years. For cheap bourbon it's 4- 6 typically some some like Eagle Rare being 10 year statements. Elijah Craig used to be 12 year old but they've since back off that (running out of stock of spirit that has been aged that long). You just don't see many bourbons that are more than 12 years old.
    Buffalo Trace makes some pretty nice Bourbon
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,644 Founders Club
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    greenblood said:

    YellowSnow said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    The ONLY reason not to choose scotch is the insane price. If that barrier gets removed, I’m going to pound town.

    Think about it this way: "cheap" single malts are aged 10- 12 years. For cheap bourbon it's 4- 6 typically some some like Eagle Rare being 10 year statements. Elijah Craig used to be 12 year old but they've since back off that (running out of stock of spirit that has been aged that long). You just don't see many bourbons that are more than 12 years old.
    Buffalo Trace makes some pretty nice Bourbon
    Yes, all of their stuff is great. They make everything from Buffalo Trace, to Elmer T Lee to Blantons. And Pappy too.
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    edited September 2018
    Scotch
    YellowSnow said:

    greenblood said:

    It depends on the scotch.

    I'd take Bourbon over the best Lowland Scotch, but the best Highland scotches have no rival.

    Islay Scotches are great too, but you kind of have to be in the mood. The peat can be a bit overpowering, which a drop of water usually fixes.

    When my wife was last pregnant, she couldn't even be in the same room with me and the Laphroaig.
    Laphroaig and Ardbeg can be quite pungent to sensitive noses, but for a non-sensitive palate they are great.

    Oban 14 and Glendronach 18 and 21 are my favorite (I actually toured the Glendronach distillery, which was badass, and probably adds to my favortism towards it). Which happen to be Highland scotches. I've always gravitated to Highland Scotches because I find them more balanced. They aren't mild like the Lowland Scotches (I find lowland scotches a waste of time) but also don't quite have the same punch as a Laphroaig or Ardbeg. Which gives them a really balanced and smooth finish.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,644 Founders Club
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    greenblood said:

    YellowSnow said:

    greenblood said:

    It depends on the scotch.

    I'd take Bourbon over the best Lowland Scotch, but the best Highland scotches have no rival.

    Islay Scotches are great too, but you kind of have to be in the mood. The peat can be a bit overpowering, which a drop of water usually fixes.

    When my wife was last pregnant, she couldn't even be in the same room with me and the Laphroaig.
    Laphroaig and Ardbeg can be quite pungent to sensitive noses, but for a non-sensitive palate they are great.

    Oban 14 and Glendronach 18 and 21 are my favorite. Which happen to be Highland. I've always gravitated to Highland Scotches because I find them more balanced. They aren't mild like the Lowland Scotches but also don't quite have the same punch as a Laphroaig or Ardbeg. Which gives them a really balanced and smooth finish.
    Can't say I've ever had a Lowland single malt. Everything's always been Speyside, Highland or Islay. But because of being a pour, I'm usually only buying 10- 12 year bottlings.
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,406 Founders Club
    Scotch
    Funny enough, I started my life preferring scotch. Drank a lot of red/black label. It wasn't until I was getting to globe trot with an open booze tab that I started discovering better bourbons that I enjoy. I still can't drink anything like Jack bc it's just too sweet for me but I do enjoy Bulleit quite a bit. If I could drink Macallan everday though I would.
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    edited September 2018
    Scotch
    YellowSnow said:

    greenblood said:

    YellowSnow said:

    greenblood said:

    It depends on the scotch.

    I'd take Bourbon over the best Lowland Scotch, but the best Highland scotches have no rival.

    Islay Scotches are great too, but you kind of have to be in the mood. The peat can be a bit overpowering, which a drop of water usually fixes.

    When my wife was last pregnant, she couldn't even be in the same room with me and the Laphroaig.
    Laphroaig and Ardbeg can be quite pungent to sensitive noses, but for a non-sensitive palate they are great.

    Oban 14 and Glendronach 18 and 21 are my favorite. Which happen to be Highland. I've always gravitated to Highland Scotches because I find them more balanced. They aren't mild like the Lowland Scotches but also don't quite have the same punch as a Laphroaig or Ardbeg. Which gives them a really balanced and smooth finish.
    Can't say I've ever had a Lowland single malt. Everything's always been Speyside, Highland or Islay. But because of being a pour, I'm usually only buying 10- 12 year bottlings.
    I've sampled them and I don't like them. They are really mild and fell kind of empty. Everyone I tried made me think they were missing something.

    Your local liquor store might sell a Glendronach 12, which goes for around $60. You'll love it
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
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    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Funny enough, I started my life preferring scotch. Drank a lot of red/black label. It wasn't until I was getting to globe trot with an open booze tab that I started discovering better bourbons that I enjoy. I still can't drink anything like Jack bc it's just too sweet for me but I do enjoy Bulleit quite a bit. If I could drink Macallan everday though I would.

    Macallan is very good, and you can pretty much find it anywhere.
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
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    I don't know what it is about Bourbon and Scotch, but you just feel fucking smarter while drinking it.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,644 Founders Club
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    greenblood said:

    YellowSnow said:

    greenblood said:

    YellowSnow said:

    greenblood said:

    It depends on the scotch.

    I'd take Bourbon over the best Lowland Scotch, but the best Highland scotches have no rival.

    Islay Scotches are great too, but you kind of have to be in the mood. The peat can be a bit overpowering, which a drop of water usually fixes.

    When my wife was last pregnant, she couldn't even be in the same room with me and the Laphroaig.
    Laphroaig and Ardbeg can be quite pungent to sensitive noses, but for a non-sensitive palate they are great.

    Oban 14 and Glendronach 18 and 21 are my favorite. Which happen to be Highland. I've always gravitated to Highland Scotches because I find them more balanced. They aren't mild like the Lowland Scotches but also don't quite have the same punch as a Laphroaig or Ardbeg. Which gives them a really balanced and smooth finish.
    Can't say I've ever had a Lowland single malt. Everything's always been Speyside, Highland or Islay. But because of being a pour, I'm usually only buying 10- 12 year bottlings.
    I've sampled them and I don't like them. They are really mild and fell kind of empty. Everyone I tried made me think they were missing something.

    Your local liquor store might sell a Glendronach 12, which goes for around $60. You'll love it
    For a Highland that is way north and right on the coast, I can't speak highly enough of Old Pultney and it's usually under $50.00.


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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,406 Founders Club
    Scotch
    greenblood said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Funny enough, I started my life preferring scotch. Drank a lot of red/black label. It wasn't until I was getting to globe trot with an open booze tab that I started discovering better bourbons that I enjoy. I still can't drink anything like Jack bc it's just too sweet for me but I do enjoy Bulleit quite a bit. If I could drink Macallan everday though I would.

    Macallan is very good, and you can pretty much find it anywhere.
    I bought my mother some 18yr rare cask while I was in England. Probably in my all time top 10 booze I've had to drink. Mom was quite pleased.
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
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    YellowSnow said:

    greenblood said:

    YellowSnow said:

    greenblood said:

    YellowSnow said:

    greenblood said:

    It depends on the scotch.

    I'd take Bourbon over the best Lowland Scotch, but the best Highland scotches have no rival.

    Islay Scotches are great too, but you kind of have to be in the mood. The peat can be a bit overpowering, which a drop of water usually fixes.

    When my wife was last pregnant, she couldn't even be in the same room with me and the Laphroaig.
    Laphroaig and Ardbeg can be quite pungent to sensitive noses, but for a non-sensitive palate they are great.

    Oban 14 and Glendronach 18 and 21 are my favorite. Which happen to be Highland. I've always gravitated to Highland Scotches because I find them more balanced. They aren't mild like the Lowland Scotches but also don't quite have the same punch as a Laphroaig or Ardbeg. Which gives them a really balanced and smooth finish.
    Can't say I've ever had a Lowland single malt. Everything's always been Speyside, Highland or Islay. But because of being a pour, I'm usually only buying 10- 12 year bottlings.
    I've sampled them and I don't like them. They are really mild and fell kind of empty. Everyone I tried made me think they were missing something.

    Your local liquor store might sell a Glendronach 12, which goes for around $60. You'll love it
    For a Highland that is way north and right on the coast, I can't speak highly enough of Old Pultney and it's usually under $50.00.


    I'll try it...I'm intrigued
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  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    Scotch
    My favorite in my price range.

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  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,843 Swaye's Wigwam
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    I am not a good booze drinker - keep me on the cheap shit.

    But this thread got me thinking about when I did drink, Mrs Lebam 3 was in Scotland for work and brought me back a bottle of Glenfiddich Limited Edition Millennium Reserve. I dusted that puppy off and looked on line - damn it is worth some good money. $238 was the best I saw one sold for and one place is asking $900.

    Makes me wanna take a sip
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,644 Founders Club
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    greenblood said:

    YellowSnow said:

    greenblood said:

    YellowSnow said:

    greenblood said:

    YellowSnow said:

    greenblood said:

    It depends on the scotch.

    I'd take Bourbon over the best Lowland Scotch, but the best Highland scotches have no rival.

    Islay Scotches are great too, but you kind of have to be in the mood. The peat can be a bit overpowering, which a drop of water usually fixes.

    When my wife was last pregnant, she couldn't even be in the same room with me and the Laphroaig.
    Laphroaig and Ardbeg can be quite pungent to sensitive noses, but for a non-sensitive palate they are great.

    Oban 14 and Glendronach 18 and 21 are my favorite. Which happen to be Highland. I've always gravitated to Highland Scotches because I find them more balanced. They aren't mild like the Lowland Scotches but also don't quite have the same punch as a Laphroaig or Ardbeg. Which gives them a really balanced and smooth finish.
    Can't say I've ever had a Lowland single malt. Everything's always been Speyside, Highland or Islay. But because of being a pour, I'm usually only buying 10- 12 year bottlings.
    I've sampled them and I don't like them. They are really mild and fell kind of empty. Everyone I tried made me think they were missing something.

    Your local liquor store might sell a Glendronach 12, which goes for around $60. You'll love it
    For a Highland that is way north and right on the coast, I can't speak highly enough of Old Pultney and it's usually under $50.00.


    I'll try it...I'm intrigued
    You can taste the salty brine in it. No joke.
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  • minion_doog
    minion_doog Member Posts: 2,024
    I can't drink Bourbon anymore, Scotch has ruined it for me. Too sweet and I taste the charcoal, the bottles I'd collected are pretty much decoration now. I rarely get into the Islay and when I go it's always after a few Highlands. Voolin (ILTCIT) and Talisker are my favorites. Ralfydotcom is great, he's a character, lots of good info. If you're interested in chasing cigars, Cigar Obsession has a couple thousand reviews and gave me a lot of good tips on finding what I like

    This Highland is a great $50 bottle. Aged in Bourbon casks, noticeably more smooth than a 12, rich, and I fucking love it. It seems to have picked up only the things I liked about Bourbon in the aging. And then finished in charred oak barrels from Kentucky or some shit



    If you're looking for a bottle from $150 and up, you can save a bunch ordering online
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    edited September 2018
    Scotch
    Let’s get this out of the way now. Please tell me you guys drink it neat. I can’t stand fuckers that ruin it by drinking it on the rocks.
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