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Cost is no object: Scotch or Bourbon?

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  • minion_doog
    minion_doog Member Posts: 2,024
    Unless it's cask strength, plenty of water's already been added in my opinion. I prefer neat unless I can only get Jameson or Dewers on a flight or something then 1 cube. I have stones at home but only to offer guests. I buy-in on the cold numbing your taste buds as a downside for the fine subtleties in my favorite Scotch's
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  • minion_doog
    minion_doog Member Posts: 2,024
    greenblood said:

    I can honestly say I've never had Japanese Whiskey

    It's unique. There is the slightest hint of Saki in the ones I've tried, it's interesting that way
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,486 Standard Supporter
    Bourbon
    YellowSnow said:

    Pitchfork51 said:

    YellowSnow said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    The ONLY reason not to choose scotch is the insane price. If that barrier gets removed, I’m going to pound town.

    Think about it this way: "cheap" single malts are aged 10- 12 years. For cheap bourbon it's 4- 6 typically some some like Eagle Rare being 10 year statements. Elijah Craig used to be 12 year old but they've since back off that (running out of stock of spirit that has been aged that long). You just don't see many bourbons that are more than 12 years old.
    That's the wrong way to think about it.

    Due to the climate and the fact that bourbon is in New casks vs scotch being in used ones the aging process is totally different.

    A 12 year scotch is more comparable to like a 6 year bourbon

    They don't make many +12 years because most would be gross.
    I fully grasp the difference in the physics/chemistry of how bourbon ages differently in a barrel house in KY vs Scotch being in a cooler climate. But I'd be curious to hear what the loss pet year due to evaporation is at a typical Scotch distillery as opposed to Bourbon. Also the above doesn't explain why the most sought after bourbon in the world- i.e. Pappy - is aged for 15 to 20 years. Wouldn't it taste like overly oaked crap because of this and yet it does not?
    Bourbon loses a shitload - the angel's share. It's something like 25% of the barrel over 4 years. It's hot and humid as fuck in Kentucky so a good portion of that is evaporation - but a decent chunk is also absorbed into the barrel - so the wood is somewhat saturated by the time it gets to Scotland to be used for their tight ass swill.

    http://www.distillerytrail.com/blog/what-is-the-angels-share/


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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,541 Founders Club
    Scotch
    greenblood said:

    I can honestly say I've never had Japanese Whiskey

    You sir, are most definitely missing out. Especially if you enjoy scotch.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,689 Founders Club
    Scotch
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    greenblood said:

    I can honestly say I've never had Japanese Whiskey

    You sir, are most definitely missing out. Especially if you enjoy scotch.
    The Hibiki 12 year is one of the best blended whiskeys i have ever had. Better than Johnny Walker Blue Label and like a third of the price.
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  • Ice_Holmvik
    Ice_Holmvik Member Posts: 2,912
    Scotch
    Ok so what do you guys recommend for a pour who wants to dip his toe into a highlands scotch?
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,689 Founders Club
    Scotch
    Ice_Holmvik said:

    Ok so what do you guys recommend for a pour who wants to dip his toe into a highlands scotch?

    Old Pultney 12 year. Highland Park 12 Year (not technically Highlands) but close enough.
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    Scotch
    IFL Scotch. Laphroaig 15 would be my second to last drink on earth.

    Pierre Ferrand Ancestrale Cognac would be the last.
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  • minion_doog
    minion_doog Member Posts: 2,024
    Ice_Holmvik said:

    Ok so what do you guys recommend for a pour who wants to dip his toe into a highlands scotch?

    Glenfiddich 14 is a great place to start. Theres a decent 4 bottle sampler box from Glenmorange that includes Quinta Ruban which is port finished, I love it for an inexpensive rich highland. Balvenie 12 is a great start. A lot of the 12's are forgettable and dont offer what is spacial about Scotch in my opinion. Anyway, get after it
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,689 Founders Club
    Scotch
    minion_doog said:

    Ice_Holmvik said:

    Ok so what do you guys recommend for a pour who wants to dip his toe into a highlands scotch?

    Glenfiddich 14 is a great place to start. Theres a decent 4 bottle sampler box from Glenmorange that includes Quinta Ruban which is port finished, I love it for an inexpensive rich highland. Balvenie 12 is a great start. A lot of the 12's are forgettable and dont offer what is spacial about Scotch in my opinion. Anyway, get after it
    I like the Balvenie 12 a lot.
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