She-Guevara racist white nationalist

SFGbob said:

No one should be surprised that someone who was living the thug life of guns, drugs and fighting ended up the way Trademark ended up.

https://cnn.com/2013/05/23/justice/florida-zimmerman-defense/index.html

Your forgetting that he was armed with Skittles and Ice Tea, too. What a Thug.

I overwhelmingly appreciate most of your posts, SFG, but there's a time to let go of defending a POS loser like Zimmerman and I think you're way past it.

No one is nominating Zimmerman as citizen of the year. But he clearly was a better person that Trademark on the day Trademark died. You do have a right not to have your head beaten into the ground. Trademark was the stereotypical thug and embraced it. Look, it was the MSM that wanted to make Trademark, wannabe astronaut, a national hero killed by a white Hispanic. They lied and said Zimmerman wasn’t injured. They lied and said he said “coons”. They lied about Trademark not going home and then coming back. They lied about Trademark’s size. Zimmerman isn’t my hero, but I’m happy to deal with the actual truth of national matters. To many on the left, Trademark is the hero. I find that offensive and self-defeating. Well meaning (not really, but let’s pretend) leftards enabled Trademark’s behavior for several years.

WestlinnDuck said:

No one is nominating Zimmerman as citizen of the year. But he clearly was a better person that Trademark on the day Trademark died. You do have a right not to have your head beaten into the ground. Trademark was the stereotypical thug and embraced it. Look, it was the MSM that wanted to make Trademark, wannabe astronaut, a national hero killed by a white Hispanic. They lied and said Zimmerman wasn’t injured. They lied and said he said “coons”. They lied about Trademark not going home and then coming back. They lied about Trademark’s size. Zimmerman isn’t my hero, but I’m happy to deal with the actual truth of national matters. To many on the left, Trademark is the hero. I find that offensive and self-defeating. Well meaning (not really, but let’s pretend) leftards enabled Trademark’s behavior for several years.

A 30 year old cowardly fat fuck picked a fight with a 17 year old kid and lost. He murdered the minor in response.

You and Gay Bob enable that behavior.

Sledog said:

I always liked the picture of 5 year old Trayvon. That's what the MSM does while protecting the criminal and their narrative.

He was 17. A high school kid. A minor.

SFGbob said:

Sledog said:

I always liked the picture of 5 year old Trayvon. That's what the MSM does while protecting the criminal and their narrative.

He wanted to be an astronaut

So it was ok to murder him?

Sledog said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

Sledog said:

I always liked the picture of 5 year old Trayvon. That's what the MSM does while protecting the criminal and their narrative.

He was 17. A high school kid. A minor.

Yeah no shit but all the MSM showed was a pic of him at about 5 years old. The pics of him with his gat and drugs and drank and gangster attire wouldn't sell their narrative an division. HTH

He was 17. A high school kid. A minor.

You’re ok that a 30 year old cowardly fat fuck murdered him? Because of pictures in the media?

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

WestlinnDuck said:

No one is nominating Zimmerman as citizen of the year. But he clearly was a better person that Trademark on the day Trademark died. You do have a right not to have your head beaten into the ground. Trademark was the stereotypical thug and embraced it. Look, it was the MSM that wanted to make Trademark, wannabe astronaut, a national hero killed by a white Hispanic. They lied and said Zimmerman wasn’t injured. They lied and said he said “coons”. They lied about Trademark not going home and then coming back. They lied about Trademark’s size. Zimmerman isn’t my hero, but I’m happy to deal with the actual truth of national matters. To many on the left, Trademark is the hero. I find that offensive and self-defeating. Well meaning (not really, but let’s pretend) leftards enabled Trademark’s behavior for several years.

A 30 year old cowardly fat fuck picked a fight with a 17 year old kid and lost. He murdered the minor in response.

You and Gay Bob enable that behavior.

Actually the people like yourself who make excuses for criminal assault in response to someone legally following someone in public are the ones that enable this behavior.

When is it ever okay to break someone’s nose and beat their head against the sidewalk just because they followed you for a few minutes?

When is it ok to murder someone because they broke your nose? You’ve obviously never been in a fight. Cowards never have.

WestlinnDuck said:

No one is nominating Zimmerman as citizen of the year. But he clearly was a better person that Trademark on the day Trademark died. You do have a right not to have your head beaten into the ground. Trademark was the stereotypical thug and embraced it. Look, it was the MSM that wanted to make Trademark, wannabe astronaut, a national hero killed by a white Hispanic. They lied and said Zimmerman wasn’t injured. They lied and said he said “coons”. They lied about Trademark not going home and then coming back. They lied about Trademark’s size. Zimmerman isn’t my hero, but I’m happy to deal with the actual truth of national matters. To many on the left, Trademark is the hero. I find that offensive and self-defeating. Well meaning (not really, but let’s pretend) leftards enabled Trademark’s behavior for several years.

There's no dispute that the MSM's coverage of these events is self-serving, hyped, and atrociously misleading to fit their pre-conceived agenda.

Reason #1000 why Trump won the election. People are sick of that shit and saw right through a large portion of it.

CirrhosisDawg said:

Sledog said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

WestlinnDuck said:

No one is nominating Zimmerman as citizen of the year. But he clearly was a better person that Trademark on the day Trademark died. You do have a right not to have your head beaten into the ground. Trademark was the stereotypical thug and embraced it. Look, it was the MSM that wanted to make Trademark, wannabe astronaut, a national hero killed by a white Hispanic. They lied and said Zimmerman wasn’t injured. They lied and said he said “coons”. They lied about Trademark not going home and then coming back. They lied about Trademark’s size. Zimmerman isn’t my hero, but I’m happy to deal with the actual truth of national matters. To many on the left, Trademark is the hero. I find that offensive and self-defeating. Well meaning (not really, but let’s pretend) leftards enabled Trademark’s behavior for several years.

A 30 year old cowardly fat fuck picked a fight with a 17 year old kid and lost. He murdered the minor in response.

You and Gay Bob enable that behavior.

Actually the people like yourself who make excuses for criminal assault in response to someone legally following someone in public are the ones that enable this behavior.

When is it ever okay to break someone’s nose and beat their head against the sidewalk just because they followed you for a few minutes?

When is it ok to murder someone because they broke your nose? You’ve obviously never been in a fight. Cowards never have.

You are clueless. Seems he was tried and found not guilty on all counts. I guess regular Joe's can manage facts much better than you.

So was OJ Cletus.

Yes he sure was. Racist verdict. When some jurors stated afterward they would not convict him no matter the evidence what did you expect?

WestlinnDuck said:

No one is nominating Zimmerman as citizen of the year. But he clearly was a better person that Trademark on the day Trademark died. You do have a right not to have your head beaten into the ground. Trademark was the stereotypical thug and embraced it. Look, it was the MSM that wanted to make Trademark, wannabe astronaut, a national hero killed by a white Hispanic. They lied and said Zimmerman wasn’t injured. They lied and said he said “coons”. They lied about Trademark not going home and then coming back. They lied about Trademark’s size. Zimmerman isn’t my hero, but I’m happy to deal with the actual truth of national matters. To many on the left, Trademark is the hero. I find that offensive and self-defeating. Well meaning (not really, but let’s pretend) leftards enabled Trademark’s behavior for several years.

And there's no rhetoric in any of that. You're working too hard dude, and conflating how a group of people you don't like used the matter for political purposes with the merits of the actual event. This has really little to do with leftards, though that clearly informs how you want to evaluate what happened. And it has NOTHING to do with ordaining Martin as a hero. He was a 17-year old kid who had been a in little trouble, though hardly a stereotypical thug ... you must not have a good sense of what that term really means when it really applies.

Zimmerman was clearly injured, and I don't know of anyone who suggested otherwise. It was plain to see. There was no evidence that he went home.

There WAS evidence that Zimmerman was following him in his car, and when he thought Martin was running away, he got OUT OF HIS CAR, and pursued him. Whoever threw made the first gesture for physicality is not known, but what is known is that the kid knew he was being followed while walking alone at night.

I can just imagine what you'd say if this was someone you knew. I'm sure you'd feel it was entirely justified because the being followed (for doing nothing but walking and fitting a profile btw) was successful in the altercation. We know Bob doesn't care about his family.

Doesn't matter, again, what liberal people did with the story. What matters is the story, and there is a social question to wrestled with here: do you want to turn loose all the weekend warrior vigilantes and have them proactively hitting the streets? It's one thing to defend your home. No qualms there from me. Someone breaks into your home, you can do what you need to do. The law is pretty favorable to the homeowner in that scenario.

This is different. This moron took the fight to the kid, and when he couldn't adequately defend himself, he popped him. That is a slippery af slope. For every kid you score as a "thug" out there, there is a Zimmerman waiting to enter a situation and make a fucking mess out of it. Like @TurdBuffer said: it's simple. But-for Zimmerman interjecting himself into police work, that kid is alive. And I say, again, I grew up, as did many here, with kids who had more strikes against them than did Martin. All but a handful are functioning adults today.

Cletus? Kreist. Your keyboard has diarrhea, Cirrho. Just God Awful.

TurdBuffer said:

Cletus? Kreist. Your keyboard has diarrhea, Cirrho. Just God Awful.

Jethro?

TurdBuffer said:

@creepycoug: We've agreed far too much in this thread. It's going to be harder to hate you now. But I'll keep at it.

Would it help if I told you to fuck off or something?

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

WestlinnDuck said:

No one is nominating Zimmerman as citizen of the year. But he clearly was a better person that Trademark on the day Trademark died. You do have a right not to have your head beaten into the ground. Trademark was the stereotypical thug and embraced it. Look, it was the MSM that wanted to make Trademark, wannabe astronaut, a national hero killed by a white Hispanic. They lied and said Zimmerman wasn’t injured. They lied and said he said “coons”. They lied about Trademark not going home and then coming back. They lied about Trademark’s size. Zimmerman isn’t my hero, but I’m happy to deal with the actual truth of national matters. To many on the left, Trademark is the hero. I find that offensive and self-defeating. Well meaning (not really, but let’s pretend) leftards enabled Trademark’s behavior for several years.

A 30 year old cowardly fat fuck picked a fight with a 17 year old kid and lost. He murdered the minor in response.

You and Gay Bob enable that behavior.

Actually the people like yourself who make excuses for criminal assault in response to someone legally following someone in public are the ones that enable this behavior.

When is it ever okay to break someone’s nose and beat their head against the sidewalk just because they followed you for a few minutes?

Depends on the circumstances. If it's at night, if you don't know what he wants, if you feel threatened, fuck, if you see or if he brandishes a weapon ... if he's harassing you and you don't know him or his intentions ... maybe he's a ped, maybe he's another Ted Bundy, maybe he's a stupid unpredictable and unstable fuck who wants to be a cop and can't (the last one we now know is true), and maybe all of that and he put you in apprehension of some kind of harm. You stand your ground, you tell him to fuck off, he doesn't, maybe he comes at you, maybe he does something resembling a threat, and you do what you have to do to defend yourself.

This is it's better to leave this shit to the police. They actually (most of the time) know what they're doing. Cops in my family shake their fucking heads every time the Trayvon case is mentioned, and not for your reasons, but for mine. The one in Miami, when this happened, always said, "should have stayed the fuck home George and let the professionals handle it."

There has to be something about Zimmerman you relate to. Tell us what it is.

TurdBuffer said:

But you Zimmerman apologists really can't see that he provoked, escalated and caused the confrontation? And you actually claim Zimmerman wasn't stalking the kid? Amazing.

So if someone was watching me and trying to follow me I would be concerned. I have a cell phone I'd probably call the police. I wouldn't beat the shit out of them and repeatedly slam their head onto the concrete without some other mitigating factor.

I could really care less about Zimmerman. But being a fat nosy neighborhood watch guy isn't reason enough.