She-Guevara racist white nationalist

SFGbob said:

creepycoug said:

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CirrhosisDawg said:

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creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

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RaceBannon said:

Of all the shit people can hang on Obama, in my view one of the most disingenuous is the racial division shit. What he did to fan the flames of racial tension in this country is to get elected in the first place. Country wasn't ready for a black guy in office unless he had walked, talked and danced like a hard-core right winger, and even then, it would have been a problem


Bull shit

How did the fuck do you think he got elected? 90% of 13% of the population? No

Fanning the flames is too strong - more like whining like a little bitch about a country that elected him twice

His actions after the Mike Brown shooting where his DOJ knew that "hands up don't shoot" story was a lie and yet he still allowed Congressional Rats pull stunts like this without every calling them out and telling the public that the story wasn't true definitely fanned the flames especially toward the police. Don't forget that in both the Trayvon Martin case and the Mike Brown the Obama Admin openly sided with the perps and not the innocent victims. His administration sent people to both Brown and Martin's funeral and also help to organize protests in both instances.

The kind of stuff he did was ineffective while being offensive. I think the record shows most of the country willing to give him a shot when he was elected. Much more so than Trump got.

Creepy is right in that Obama didn't address serious issues mainly because his economic policies sucked for everyone so they sucked more for Blacks.

Rather than the hands up stuff why not a serious looks at incarceration and if there is anything we can do to close that gap and stop creating career criminals at the age of 14. Once a kid is in the system its hard to get them out. Do we treat Black teenagers tougher than whites?

Those are actual serious issues that cross racial lines. I was talking with a couple of old white guys about Kapernick and I said I don't think the data supports what he says on cop killings but I do think a white kid has a better chance to get away with something. They thought for a minute and said - that's right it is easier being white when it comes to the police.

We don't want to lose our privilege though we want everyone to have it

Yes, this. This is what I mean when I say that black leadership should be more focused on root cause, which, candidly, implicates everyone on one level or another. That would be more constructive.

I'm not going to re-litigate the Trayvon Martin case here, though I still think Zimmerman is a little banana busy body and caused something that wouldn't have happened w/o his "intervention." Mike Brown was not a good case for the BLM cause in my view. But for every one of those, there are 50 like South Side Flats and Eric Garner, the latter of which was particularly egregious.

My point is that those who claim there's not 'there' there are full of shit, and this isn't a fabricated 'made up' issue. I don't read you, Race, to be making that point. I wonder about some of our friends though. Stand to be corrected.

First of all who said this was a "made up" issue? I think police brutality and being too trigger happy is a very real issue. I just don't think that blacks are the only ones being impacted by it. I don't see it as a race issue, I see it as a police issue. And it doesn't matter what you think about Zimmerman. He was entirely within his rights and the law to follow Trayvon and didn't have to sit there and take a beat down.

BLM should have focused on cases like Walter Scott not Trayvon and the Gentle Giant.

The Trayvon Martin incident perfectly epitomizes the moral depravity of trumpism. A 17 year old kid who weighed 158 pounds walking home from school beat the shit out of a 30-year old fat fuck following him. The cowardly fat fuck (is there any other kind) murdered the kid because he couldn’t defend himself. Trumpism in a microcosm.

Walking home from school. Ha. The only reason he was in Sanford was because he'd been kicked out of school for the 3rd time that year and his mother kicked him out of the house so he was staying with this father.

Not quite sure how Trump has anything to do with Trademark.

And? He was walking home from 7-11 with candy and soda. Doesn't matter that he wasn't an Eagle Scout. Or does it?

You have a 17-year old unarmed and skinny kid walking alone and being followed by a grown man with a gun. Grown man likely tried to detain him or something for looking suspicious, kid probably has some edge to him, told him to GTFO or whatever, grown make gets his ass kicked, didn't count on that happening, and instead of tucking tail he shot him. Great outcome. But he was well within his rights.

Ok!!!!

No, it matters that he attacked and beat Zimmerman. Zimmerman then defended himself. Case closed. Likely tried to detain him? You're not "likely" pulling claims out of your ass, you're doing it.

creepycoug said:

Race, totally unfair throwing all those facts and maff at me. You know I have limitations. I get it, whitey really voted for Hussein Obama. The only question is, which whitey?



The real surprise there was Florida, but not entirely. It's a weird place except for the Canes. I think the prospects of the first black prez really activated the left and people voted. Similarly, I think a lot of red whitey had been sitting on the sidelines, and the democrats helped activate them with Trump. People who, before, didn't feel vested in the political process suddenly became interested in politics. I think 8 years of Obama had a lot to do with that, and a lot of that was just being there saying anything about race (not you). In other words, my hypothesis, which is worth about as much as my membership dues to HCH, is that there was really nothing a liberal black guy in the white house could say or do or comment about race (not you) issues that would not have stirred the pot in some segments of our society, not all of which is the hillbilly souf. That said, I think we are all in agreement that the democrats' most fearsome enemy is themselves. They are the Jasson Guessers of American politics, constantly killing their own feet. And they're likely to do it again IMO.

SFGbob said:

Martin got exactly what he deserved and would have either done to someone else or had done to him in a few years if you know anything about his history.

Zimmerman most likely saved lives by his actions and no doubt saved the taxpayers lots of money.