She-Guevara racist white nationalist

MikeDamone

creepycoug said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

SFGbob said:

RaceBannon said:

Of all the shit people can hang on Obama, in my view one of the most disingenuous is the racial division shit. What he did to fan the flames of racial tension in this country is to get elected in the first place. Country wasn't ready for a black guy in office unless he had walked, talked and danced like a hard-core right winger, and even then, it would have been a problem


Bull shit

How did the fuck do you think he got elected? 90% of 13% of the population? No

Fanning the flames is too strong - more like whining like a little bitch about a country that elected him twice

His actions after the Mike Brown shooting where his DOJ knew that "hands up don't shoot" story was a lie and yet he still allowed Congressional Rats pull stunts like this without every calling them out and telling the public that the story wasn't true definitely fanned the flames especially toward the police. Don't forget that in both the Trayvon Martin case and the Mike Brown the Obama Admin openly sided with the perps and not the innocent victims. His administration sent people to both Brown and Martin's funeral and also help to organize protests in both instances.

The kind of stuff he did was ineffective while being offensive. I think the record shows most of the country willing to give him a shot when he was elected. Much more so than Trump got.

Creepy is right in that Obama didn't address serious issues mainly because his economic policies sucked for everyone so they sucked more for Blacks.

Rather than the hands up stuff why not a serious looks at incarceration and if there is anything we can do to close that gap and stop creating career criminals at the age of 14. Once a kid is in the system its hard to get them out. Do we treat Black teenagers tougher than whites?

Those are actual serious issues that cross racial lines. I was talking with a couple of old white guys about Kapernick and I said I don't think the data supports what he says on cop killings but I do think a white kid has a better chance to get away with something. They thought for a minute and said - that's right it is easier being white when it comes to the police.

We don't want to lose our privilege though we want everyone to have it

Yes, this. This is what I mean when I say that black leadership should be more focused on root cause, which, candidly, implicates everyone on one level or another. That would be more constructive.

I'm not going to re-litigate the Trayvon Martin case here, though I still think Zimmerman is a little banana busy body and caused something that wouldn't have happened w/o his "intervention." Mike Brown was not a good case for the BLM cause in my view. But for every one of those, there are 50 like South Side Flats and Eric Garner, the latter of which was particularly egregious.

My point is that those who claim there's not 'there' there are full of shit, and this isn't a fabricated 'made up' issue. I don't read you, Race, to be making that point. I wonder about some of our friends though. Stand to be corrected.

First of all who said this was a "made up" issue? I think police brutality and being too trigger happy is a very real issue. I just don't think that blacks are the only ones being impacted by it. I don't see it as a race issue, I see it as a police issue. And it doesn't matter what you think about Zimmerman. He was entirely within his rights and the law to follow Trayvon and didn't have to sit there and take a beat down.

BLM should have focused on cases like Walter Scott not Trayvon and the Gentle Giant.

The Trayvon Martin incident perfectly epitomizes the moral depravity of trumpism. A 17 year old kid who weighed 158 pounds walking home from school beat the shit out of a 30-year old fat fuck following him. The cowardly fat fuck (is there any other kind) murdered the kid because he couldn’t defend himself. Trumpism in a microcosm.

Walking home from school. Ha. The only reason he was in Sanford was because he'd been kicked out of school for the 3rd time that year and his mother kicked him out of the house so he was staying with this father.

Not quite sure how Trump has anything to do with Trademark.

George Zimmerman: an obese unskilled uneducated adult who got his ass kicked by a 17 year old kid, and then murdered the child with a concealed weapon in desperation and futility. Nothing could be more trump.

Gosh, if only your feelings held sway here and not the law. I'd say that George did get his ass kicked but he got off a pretty good punch.

I had no doubt you’d say that. OJ and I are having belly laughs at you.

Trademark should have thought twice before attacking the White Hispanic. This would have never been anything more than a local crime story if George was named Jorge Zapata

No it would not have. Both of the Miami race riots were touched off by Cuban cops shooting black men, one in liberty city and one in over town. And how do you know Martin attacked Zimmerman? Or are you just assuming that? I wonder why? You normally seem so fair and balanced. Could it not have just as easily been the case that Zimmerman tried to strong arm the kid, and the kid turned out to be a much better fighter than he might have surmised based on just looking at him? I also noticed that you went through the trouble of pointing out that Martin was kicked out of his moms house because that never happens with 17-year-old boys unless they are career criminals. Why didn't you also point out that Zimmerman's history before and after the incident Indicate pretty strongly that he was is and always will be a giant douche bag with very very very questionable judgment for a grown man?

If Martin were white we wouldn’t have heard about it. I think we all know that.

“If Martin were white he wouldn’t have been shot” yeah..bullshit.

creepycoug

MikeDamone said:

creepycoug said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

SFGbob said:

RaceBannon said:

Of all the shit people can hang on Obama, in my view one of the most disingenuous is the racial division shit. What he did to fan the flames of racial tension in this country is to get elected in the first place. Country wasn't ready for a black guy in office unless he had walked, talked and danced like a hard-core right winger, and even then, it would have been a problem


Bull shit

How did the fuck do you think he got elected? 90% of 13% of the population? No

Fanning the flames is too strong - more like whining like a little bitch about a country that elected him twice

His actions after the Mike Brown shooting where his DOJ knew that "hands up don't shoot" story was a lie and yet he still allowed Congressional Rats pull stunts like this without every calling them out and telling the public that the story wasn't true definitely fanned the flames especially toward the police. Don't forget that in both the Trayvon Martin case and the Mike Brown the Obama Admin openly sided with the perps and not the innocent victims. His administration sent people to both Brown and Martin's funeral and also help to organize protests in both instances.

The kind of stuff he did was ineffective while being offensive. I think the record shows most of the country willing to give him a shot when he was elected. Much more so than Trump got.

Creepy is right in that Obama didn't address serious issues mainly because his economic policies sucked for everyone so they sucked more for Blacks.

Rather than the hands up stuff why not a serious looks at incarceration and if there is anything we can do to close that gap and stop creating career criminals at the age of 14. Once a kid is in the system its hard to get them out. Do we treat Black teenagers tougher than whites?

Those are actual serious issues that cross racial lines. I was talking with a couple of old white guys about Kapernick and I said I don't think the data supports what he says on cop killings but I do think a white kid has a better chance to get away with something. They thought for a minute and said - that's right it is easier being white when it comes to the police.

We don't want to lose our privilege though we want everyone to have it

Yes, this. This is what I mean when I say that black leadership should be more focused on root cause, which, candidly, implicates everyone on one level or another. That would be more constructive.

I'm not going to re-litigate the Trayvon Martin case here, though I still think Zimmerman is a little banana busy body and caused something that wouldn't have happened w/o his "intervention." Mike Brown was not a good case for the BLM cause in my view. But for every one of those, there are 50 like South Side Flats and Eric Garner, the latter of which was particularly egregious.

My point is that those who claim there's not 'there' there are full of shit, and this isn't a fabricated 'made up' issue. I don't read you, Race, to be making that point. I wonder about some of our friends though. Stand to be corrected.

First of all who said this was a "made up" issue? I think police brutality and being too trigger happy is a very real issue. I just don't think that blacks are the only ones being impacted by it. I don't see it as a race issue, I see it as a police issue. And it doesn't matter what you think about Zimmerman. He was entirely within his rights and the law to follow Trayvon and didn't have to sit there and take a beat down.

BLM should have focused on cases like Walter Scott not Trayvon and the Gentle Giant.

The Trayvon Martin incident perfectly epitomizes the moral depravity of trumpism. A 17 year old kid who weighed 158 pounds walking home from school beat the shit out of a 30-year old fat fuck following him. The cowardly fat fuck (is there any other kind) murdered the kid because he couldn’t defend himself. Trumpism in a microcosm.

Walking home from school. Ha. The only reason he was in Sanford was because he'd been kicked out of school for the 3rd time that year and his mother kicked him out of the house so he was staying with this father.

Not quite sure how Trump has anything to do with Trademark.

George Zimmerman: an obese unskilled uneducated adult who got his ass kicked by a 17 year old kid, and then murdered the child with a concealed weapon in desperation and futility. Nothing could be more trump.

Gosh, if only your feelings held sway here and not the law. I'd say that George did get his ass kicked but he got off a pretty good punch.

I had no doubt you’d say that. OJ and I are having belly laughs at you.

Trademark should have thought twice before attacking the White Hispanic. This would have never been anything more than a local crime story if George was named Jorge Zapata

No it would not have. Both of the Miami race riots were touched off by Cuban cops shooting black men, one in liberty city and one in over town. And how do you know Martin attacked Zimmerman? Or are you just assuming that? I wonder why? You normally seem so fair and balanced. Could it not have just as easily been the case that Zimmerman tried to strong arm the kid, and the kid turned out to be a much better fighter than he might have surmised based on just looking at him? I also noticed that you went through the trouble of pointing out that Martin was kicked out of his moms house because that never happens with 17-year-old boys unless they are career criminals. Why didn't you also point out that Zimmerman's history before and after the incident Indicate pretty strongly that he was is and always will be a giant douche bag with very very very questionable judgment for a grown man?

If Martin were white we wouldn’t have heard about it. I think we all know that.

“If Martin were white he wouldn’t have been shot” yeah..bullshit.

That's probably right. But I wonder: do you think if Martin White and Zimmerman were black there's a different outcome in the court case? Legitimate question.

WestlinnDuck

For the creep. Why is white and Joooo hatred better than black and Joooo hatred? Don't hurt yourself.

MikeDamone

creepycoug said:

MikeDamone said:

creepycoug said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

SFGbob said:

RaceBannon said:

Of all the shit people can hang on Obama, in my view one of the most disingenuous is the racial division shit. What he did to fan the flames of racial tension in this country is to get elected in the first place. Country wasn't ready for a black guy in office unless he had walked, talked and danced like a hard-core right winger, and even then, it would have been a problem


Bull shit

How did the fuck do you think he got elected? 90% of 13% of the population? No

Fanning the flames is too strong - more like whining like a little bitch about a country that elected him twice

His actions after the Mike Brown shooting where his DOJ knew that "hands up don't shoot" story was a lie and yet he still allowed Congressional Rats pull stunts like this without every calling them out and telling the public that the story wasn't true definitely fanned the flames especially toward the police. Don't forget that in both the Trayvon Martin case and the Mike Brown the Obama Admin openly sided with the perps and not the innocent victims. His administration sent people to both Brown and Martin's funeral and also help to organize protests in both instances.

The kind of stuff he did was ineffective while being offensive. I think the record shows most of the country willing to give him a shot when he was elected. Much more so than Trump got.

Creepy is right in that Obama didn't address serious issues mainly because his economic policies sucked for everyone so they sucked more for Blacks.

Rather than the hands up stuff why not a serious looks at incarceration and if there is anything we can do to close that gap and stop creating career criminals at the age of 14. Once a kid is in the system its hard to get them out. Do we treat Black teenagers tougher than whites?

Those are actual serious issues that cross racial lines. I was talking with a couple of old white guys about Kapernick and I said I don't think the data supports what he says on cop killings but I do think a white kid has a better chance to get away with something. They thought for a minute and said - that's right it is easier being white when it comes to the police.

We don't want to lose our privilege though we want everyone to have it

Yes, this. This is what I mean when I say that black leadership should be more focused on root cause, which, candidly, implicates everyone on one level or another. That would be more constructive.

I'm not going to re-litigate the Trayvon Martin case here, though I still think Zimmerman is a little banana busy body and caused something that wouldn't have happened w/o his "intervention." Mike Brown was not a good case for the BLM cause in my view. But for every one of those, there are 50 like South Side Flats and Eric Garner, the latter of which was particularly egregious.

My point is that those who claim there's not 'there' there are full of shit, and this isn't a fabricated 'made up' issue. I don't read you, Race, to be making that point. I wonder about some of our friends though. Stand to be corrected.

First of all who said this was a "made up" issue? I think police brutality and being too trigger happy is a very real issue. I just don't think that blacks are the only ones being impacted by it. I don't see it as a race issue, I see it as a police issue. And it doesn't matter what you think about Zimmerman. He was entirely within his rights and the law to follow Trayvon and didn't have to sit there and take a beat down.

BLM should have focused on cases like Walter Scott not Trayvon and the Gentle Giant.

The Trayvon Martin incident perfectly epitomizes the moral depravity of trumpism. A 17 year old kid who weighed 158 pounds walking home from school beat the shit out of a 30-year old fat fuck following him. The cowardly fat fuck (is there any other kind) murdered the kid because he couldn’t defend himself. Trumpism in a microcosm.

Walking home from school. Ha. The only reason he was in Sanford was because he'd been kicked out of school for the 3rd time that year and his mother kicked him out of the house so he was staying with this father.

Not quite sure how Trump has anything to do with Trademark.

George Zimmerman: an obese unskilled uneducated adult who got his ass kicked by a 17 year old kid, and then murdered the child with a concealed weapon in desperation and futility. Nothing could be more trump.

Gosh, if only your feelings held sway here and not the law. I'd say that George did get his ass kicked but he got off a pretty good punch.

I had no doubt you’d say that. OJ and I are having belly laughs at you.

Trademark should have thought twice before attacking the White Hispanic. This would have never been anything more than a local crime story if George was named Jorge Zapata

No it would not have. Both of the Miami race riots were touched off by Cuban cops shooting black men, one in liberty city and one in over town. And how do you know Martin attacked Zimmerman? Or are you just assuming that? I wonder why? You normally seem so fair and balanced. Could it not have just as easily been the case that Zimmerman tried to strong arm the kid, and the kid turned out to be a much better fighter than he might have surmised based on just looking at him? I also noticed that you went through the trouble of pointing out that Martin was kicked out of his moms house because that never happens with 17-year-old boys unless they are career criminals. Why didn't you also point out that Zimmerman's history before and after the incident Indicate pretty strongly that he was is and always will be a giant douche bag with very very very questionable judgment for a grown man?

If Martin were white we wouldn’t have heard about it. I think we all know that.

“If Martin were white he wouldn’t have been shot” yeah..bullshit.

That's probably right. But I wonder: do you think if Martin White and Zimmerman were black there's a different outcome in the court case? Legitimate question.

Everything else being equal, I think the outcome would be the same. There is a case in Florida now with that scenario. So we will find out.

USMChawk

creepycoug said:

MikeDamone said:

creepycoug said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

SFGbob said:

RaceBannon said:

Of all the shit people can hang on Obama, in my view one of the most disingenuous is the racial division shit. What he did to fan the flames of racial tension in this country is to get elected in the first place. Country wasn't ready for a black guy in office unless he had walked, talked and danced like a hard-core right winger, and even then, it would have been a problem


Bull shit

How did the fuck do you think he got elected? 90% of 13% of the population? No

Fanning the flames is too strong - more like whining like a little bitch about a country that elected him twice

His actions after the Mike Brown shooting where his DOJ knew that "hands up don't shoot" story was a lie and yet he still allowed Congressional Rats pull stunts like this without every calling them out and telling the public that the story wasn't true definitely fanned the flames especially toward the police. Don't forget that in both the Trayvon Martin case and the Mike Brown the Obama Admin openly sided with the perps and not the innocent victims. His administration sent people to both Brown and Martin's funeral and also help to organize protests in both instances.

The kind of stuff he did was ineffective while being offensive. I think the record shows most of the country willing to give him a shot when he was elected. Much more so than Trump got.

Creepy is right in that Obama didn't address serious issues mainly because his economic policies sucked for everyone so they sucked more for Blacks.

Rather than the hands up stuff why not a serious looks at incarceration and if there is anything we can do to close that gap and stop creating career criminals at the age of 14. Once a kid is in the system its hard to get them out. Do we treat Black teenagers tougher than whites?

Those are actual serious issues that cross racial lines. I was talking with a couple of old white guys about Kapernick and I said I don't think the data supports what he says on cop killings but I do think a white kid has a better chance to get away with something. They thought for a minute and said - that's right it is easier being white when it comes to the police.

We don't want to lose our privilege though we want everyone to have it

Yes, this. This is what I mean when I say that black leadership should be more focused on root cause, which, candidly, implicates everyone on one level or another. That would be more constructive.

I'm not going to re-litigate the Trayvon Martin case here, though I still think Zimmerman is a little banana busy body and caused something that wouldn't have happened w/o his "intervention." Mike Brown was not a good case for the BLM cause in my view. But for every one of those, there are 50 like South Side Flats and Eric Garner, the latter of which was particularly egregious.

My point is that those who claim there's not 'there' there are full of shit, and this isn't a fabricated 'made up' issue. I don't read you, Race, to be making that point. I wonder about some of our friends though. Stand to be corrected.

First of all who said this was a "made up" issue? I think police brutality and being too trigger happy is a very real issue. I just don't think that blacks are the only ones being impacted by it. I don't see it as a race issue, I see it as a police issue. And it doesn't matter what you think about Zimmerman. He was entirely within his rights and the law to follow Trayvon and didn't have to sit there and take a beat down.

BLM should have focused on cases like Walter Scott not Trayvon and the Gentle Giant.

The Trayvon Martin incident perfectly epitomizes the moral depravity of trumpism. A 17 year old kid who weighed 158 pounds walking home from school beat the shit out of a 30-year old fat fuck following him. The cowardly fat fuck (is there any other kind) murdered the kid because he couldn’t defend himself. Trumpism in a microcosm.

Walking home from school. Ha. The only reason he was in Sanford was because he'd been kicked out of school for the 3rd time that year and his mother kicked him out of the house so he was staying with this father.

Not quite sure how Trump has anything to do with Trademark.

George Zimmerman: an obese unskilled uneducated adult who got his ass kicked by a 17 year old kid, and then murdered the child with a concealed weapon in desperation and futility. Nothing could be more trump.

Gosh, if only your feelings held sway here and not the law. I'd say that George did get his ass kicked but he got off a pretty good punch.

I had no doubt you’d say that. OJ and I are having belly laughs at you.

Trademark should have thought twice before attacking the White Hispanic. This would have never been anything more than a local crime story if George was named Jorge Zapata

No it would not have. Both of the Miami race riots were touched off by Cuban cops shooting black men, one in liberty city and one in over town. And how do you know Martin attacked Zimmerman? Or are you just assuming that? I wonder why? You normally seem so fair and balanced. Could it not have just as easily been the case that Zimmerman tried to strong arm the kid, and the kid turned out to be a much better fighter than he might have surmised based on just looking at him? I also noticed that you went through the trouble of pointing out that Martin was kicked out of his moms house because that never happens with 17-year-old boys unless they are career criminals. Why didn't you also point out that Zimmerman's history before and after the incident Indicate pretty strongly that he was is and always will be a giant douche bag with very very very questionable judgment for a grown man?

If Martin were white we wouldn’t have heard about it. I think we all know that.

“If Martin were white he wouldn’t have been shot” yeah..bullshit.

That's probably right. But I wonder: do you think if Martin White and Zimmerman were black there's a different outcome in the court case? Legitimate question.

No.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/07/tim-mcnabb/black-man-shoots-white-teen-jury-says-self-defense-and-nobody-cares/

MikeDamone

USMChawk said:

creepycoug said:

MikeDamone said:

creepycoug said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

SFGbob said:

RaceBannon said:

Of all the shit people can hang on Obama, in my view one of the most disingenuous is the racial division shit. What he did to fan the flames of racial tension in this country is to get elected in the first place. Country wasn't ready for a black guy in office unless he had walked, talked and danced like a hard-core right winger, and even then, it would have been a problem


Bull shit

How did the fuck do you think he got elected? 90% of 13% of the population? No

Fanning the flames is too strong - more like whining like a little bitch about a country that elected him twice

His actions after the Mike Brown shooting where his DOJ knew that "hands up don't shoot" story was a lie and yet he still allowed Congressional Rats pull stunts like this without every calling them out and telling the public that the story wasn't true definitely fanned the flames especially toward the police. Don't forget that in both the Trayvon Martin case and the Mike Brown the Obama Admin openly sided with the perps and not the innocent victims. His administration sent people to both Brown and Martin's funeral and also help to organize protests in both instances.

The kind of stuff he did was ineffective while being offensive. I think the record shows most of the country willing to give him a shot when he was elected. Much more so than Trump got.

Creepy is right in that Obama didn't address serious issues mainly because his economic policies sucked for everyone so they sucked more for Blacks.

Rather than the hands up stuff why not a serious looks at incarceration and if there is anything we can do to close that gap and stop creating career criminals at the age of 14. Once a kid is in the system its hard to get them out. Do we treat Black teenagers tougher than whites?

Those are actual serious issues that cross racial lines. I was talking with a couple of old white guys about Kapernick and I said I don't think the data supports what he says on cop killings but I do think a white kid has a better chance to get away with something. They thought for a minute and said - that's right it is easier being white when it comes to the police.

We don't want to lose our privilege though we want everyone to have it

Yes, this. This is what I mean when I say that black leadership should be more focused on root cause, which, candidly, implicates everyone on one level or another. That would be more constructive.

I'm not going to re-litigate the Trayvon Martin case here, though I still think Zimmerman is a little banana busy body and caused something that wouldn't have happened w/o his "intervention." Mike Brown was not a good case for the BLM cause in my view. But for every one of those, there are 50 like South Side Flats and Eric Garner, the latter of which was particularly egregious.

My point is that those who claim there's not 'there' there are full of shit, and this isn't a fabricated 'made up' issue. I don't read you, Race, to be making that point. I wonder about some of our friends though. Stand to be corrected.

First of all who said this was a "made up" issue? I think police brutality and being too trigger happy is a very real issue. I just don't think that blacks are the only ones being impacted by it. I don't see it as a race issue, I see it as a police issue. And it doesn't matter what you think about Zimmerman. He was entirely within his rights and the law to follow Trayvon and didn't have to sit there and take a beat down.

BLM should have focused on cases like Walter Scott not Trayvon and the Gentle Giant.

The Trayvon Martin incident perfectly epitomizes the moral depravity of trumpism. A 17 year old kid who weighed 158 pounds walking home from school beat the shit out of a 30-year old fat fuck following him. The cowardly fat fuck (is there any other kind) murdered the kid because he couldn’t defend himself. Trumpism in a microcosm.

Walking home from school. Ha. The only reason he was in Sanford was because he'd been kicked out of school for the 3rd time that year and his mother kicked him out of the house so he was staying with this father.

Not quite sure how Trump has anything to do with Trademark.

George Zimmerman: an obese unskilled uneducated adult who got his ass kicked by a 17 year old kid, and then murdered the child with a concealed weapon in desperation and futility. Nothing could be more trump.

Gosh, if only your feelings held sway here and not the law. I'd say that George did get his ass kicked but he got off a pretty good punch.

I had no doubt you’d say that. OJ and I are having belly laughs at you.

Trademark should have thought twice before attacking the White Hispanic. This would have never been anything more than a local crime story if George was named Jorge Zapata

No it would not have. Both of the Miami race riots were touched off by Cuban cops shooting black men, one in liberty city and one in over town. And how do you know Martin attacked Zimmerman? Or are you just assuming that? I wonder why? You normally seem so fair and balanced. Could it not have just as easily been the case that Zimmerman tried to strong arm the kid, and the kid turned out to be a much better fighter than he might have surmised based on just looking at him? I also noticed that you went through the trouble of pointing out that Martin was kicked out of his moms house because that never happens with 17-year-old boys unless they are career criminals. Why didn't you also point out that Zimmerman's history before and after the incident Indicate pretty strongly that he was is and always will be a giant douche bag with very very very questionable judgment for a grown man?

If Martin were white we wouldn’t have heard about it. I think we all know that.

“If Martin were white he wouldn’t have been shot” yeah..bullshit.

That's probably right. But I wonder: do you think if Martin White and Zimmerman were black there's a different outcome in the court case? Legitimate question.

No.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/07/tim-mcnabb/black-man-shoots-white-teen-jury-says-self-defense-and-nobody-cares/

Right. But tge case is Florida now is a stand your ground defense so it’s more apples to apples. That said, people getting murdered outside of their race isn’t very common at all. Blacks kill blacks and whites kill whites for the most part.

SFGbob

creepycoug said:

Nowhere in my post is any kind of apology for Sharpton being anything less than a charlatan. I'd have him over for dinner b4 David Duke any day though. I would never equate those two as analogs.

Yeah you just ran interference for the fact that Obama hired the piece of shit to lead his get out the vote effort by you didn't "apologize" for Sharpton and since you appear to be one of those precise language Kunt's quote where I said you apologized Coug?

SFGbob

creepycoug said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

SFGbob said:

RaceBannon said:

Of all the shit people can hang on Obama, in my view one of the most disingenuous is the racial division shit. What he did to fan the flames of racial tension in this country is to get elected in the first place. Country wasn't ready for a black guy in office unless he had walked, talked and danced like a hard-core right winger, and even then, it would have been a problem


Bull shit

How did the fuck do you think he got elected? 90% of 13% of the population? No

Fanning the flames is too strong - more like whining like a little bitch about a country that elected him twice

His actions after the Mike Brown shooting where his DOJ knew that "hands up don't shoot" story was a lie and yet he still allowed Congressional Rats pull stunts like this without every calling them out and telling the public that the story wasn't true definitely fanned the flames especially toward the police. Don't forget that in both the Trayvon Martin case and the Mike Brown the Obama Admin openly sided with the perps and not the innocent victims. His administration sent people to both Brown and Martin's funeral and also help to organize protests in both instances.

The kind of stuff he did was ineffective while being offensive. I think the record shows most of the country willing to give him a shot when he was elected. Much more so than Trump got.

Creepy is right in that Obama didn't address serious issues mainly because his economic policies sucked for everyone so they sucked more for Blacks.

Rather than the hands up stuff why not a serious looks at incarceration and if there is anything we can do to close that gap and stop creating career criminals at the age of 14. Once a kid is in the system its hard to get them out. Do we treat Black teenagers tougher than whites?

Those are actual serious issues that cross racial lines. I was talking with a couple of old white guys about Kapernick and I said I don't think the data supports what he says on cop killings but I do think a white kid has a better chance to get away with something. They thought for a minute and said - that's right it is easier being white when it comes to the police.

We don't want to lose our privilege though we want everyone to have it

Yes, this. This is what I mean when I say that black leadership should be more focused on root cause, which, candidly, implicates everyone on one level or another. That would be more constructive.

I'm not going to re-litigate the Trayvon Martin case here, though I still think Zimmerman is a little banana busy body and caused something that wouldn't have happened w/o his "intervention." Mike Brown was not a good case for the BLM cause in my view. But for every one of those, there are 50 like South Side Flats and Eric Garner, the latter of which was particularly egregious.

My point is that those who claim there's not 'there' there are full of shit, and this isn't a fabricated 'made up' issue. I don't read you, Race, to be making that point. I wonder about some of our friends though. Stand to be corrected.

First of all who said this was a "made up" issue? I think police brutality and being too trigger happy is a very real issue. I just don't think that blacks are the only ones being impacted by it. I don't see it as a race issue, I see it as a police issue. And it doesn't matter what you think about Zimmerman. He was entirely within his rights and the law to follow Trayvon and didn't have to sit there and take a beat down.

BLM should have focused on cases like Walter Scott not Trayvon and the Gentle Giant.

The Trayvon Martin incident perfectly epitomizes the moral depravity of trumpism. A 17 year old kid who weighed 158 pounds walking home from school beat the shit out of a 30-year old fat fuck following him. The cowardly fat fuck (is there any other kind) murdered the kid because he couldn’t defend himself. Trumpism in a microcosm.

Walking home from school. Ha. The only reason he was in Sanford was because he'd been kicked out of school for the 3rd time that year and his mother kicked him out of the house so he was staying with this father.

Not quite sure how Trump has anything to do with Trademark.

George Zimmerman: an obese unskilled uneducated adult who got his ass kicked by a 17 year old kid, and then murdered the child with a concealed weapon in desperation and futility. Nothing could be more trump.

Gosh, if only your feelings held sway here and not the law. I'd say that George did get his ass kicked but he got off a pretty good punch.

I had no doubt you’d say that. OJ and I are having belly laughs at you.

Trademark should have thought twice before attacking the White Hispanic. This would have never been anything more than a local crime story if George was named Jorge Zapata

No it would not have. Both of the Miami race riots were touched off by Cuban cops shooting black men, one in liberty city and one in over town. And how do you know Martin attacked Zimmerman? Or are you just assuming that? I wonder why? You normally seem so fair and balanced. Could it not have just as easily been the case that Zimmerman tried to strong arm the kid, and the kid turned out to be a much better fighter than he might have surmised based on just looking at him? I also noticed that you went through the trouble of pointing out that Martin was kicked out of his moms house because that never happens with 17-year-old boys unless they are career criminals. Why didn't you also point out that Zimmerman's history before and after the incident Indicate pretty strongly that he was is and always will be a giant douche bag with very very very questionable judgment for a grown man?

Zimmerman wasn't a cop and there are stories nearly every day where Hispanics shoot unarmed blacks and vice versa and it's never more than a one day local story. And just like Zimmerman, as soon as a Hispanic cop shoots a black guy they officially become "white."


And how do you know Martin attacked Zimmerman? Or are you just assuming that? I wonder why? You normally seem so fair and balanced. Could it not have just as easily been the case that Zimmerman tried to strong arm the kid, and the kid turned out to be a much better fighter than he might have surmised based on just looking at him?

Gosh, if only there had been a trial and the presentation of evidence, and the questioning of eyewitnesses. I guess we'll just be force to "assume" what happened.

I also noticed that you went through the trouble of pointing out that Martin was kicked out of his moms house because that never happens with 17-year-old boys unless they are career criminals.

Yeah I went through the "trouble" because some dipshit in this thread claimed Trademark was walking home from school. There's was a reason Trademark was in Sanford. He did't live there, and was only there because he'd been kicked out of school 3 times already that year, twice for fighting.

SFGbob

creepycoug said:

MikeDamone said:

creepycoug said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

SFGbob said:

RaceBannon said:

Of all the shit people can hang on Obama, in my view one of the most disingenuous is the racial division shit. What he did to fan the flames of racial tension in this country is to get elected in the first place. Country wasn't ready for a black guy in office unless he had walked, talked and danced like a hard-core right winger, and even then, it would have been a problem


Bull shit

How did the fuck do you think he got elected? 90% of 13% of the population? No

Fanning the flames is too strong - more like whining like a little bitch about a country that elected him twice

His actions after the Mike Brown shooting where his DOJ knew that "hands up don't shoot" story was a lie and yet he still allowed Congressional Rats pull stunts like this without every calling them out and telling the public that the story wasn't true definitely fanned the flames especially toward the police. Don't forget that in both the Trayvon Martin case and the Mike Brown the Obama Admin openly sided with the perps and not the innocent victims. His administration sent people to both Brown and Martin's funeral and also help to organize protests in both instances.

The kind of stuff he did was ineffective while being offensive. I think the record shows most of the country willing to give him a shot when he was elected. Much more so than Trump got.

Creepy is right in that Obama didn't address serious issues mainly because his economic policies sucked for everyone so they sucked more for Blacks.

Rather than the hands up stuff why not a serious looks at incarceration and if there is anything we can do to close that gap and stop creating career criminals at the age of 14. Once a kid is in the system its hard to get them out. Do we treat Black teenagers tougher than whites?

Those are actual serious issues that cross racial lines. I was talking with a couple of old white guys about Kapernick and I said I don't think the data supports what he says on cop killings but I do think a white kid has a better chance to get away with something. They thought for a minute and said - that's right it is easier being white when it comes to the police.

We don't want to lose our privilege though we want everyone to have it

Yes, this. This is what I mean when I say that black leadership should be more focused on root cause, which, candidly, implicates everyone on one level or another. That would be more constructive.

I'm not going to re-litigate the Trayvon Martin case here, though I still think Zimmerman is a little banana busy body and caused something that wouldn't have happened w/o his "intervention." Mike Brown was not a good case for the BLM cause in my view. But for every one of those, there are 50 like South Side Flats and Eric Garner, the latter of which was particularly egregious.

My point is that those who claim there's not 'there' there are full of shit, and this isn't a fabricated 'made up' issue. I don't read you, Race, to be making that point. I wonder about some of our friends though. Stand to be corrected.

First of all who said this was a "made up" issue? I think police brutality and being too trigger happy is a very real issue. I just don't think that blacks are the only ones being impacted by it. I don't see it as a race issue, I see it as a police issue. And it doesn't matter what you think about Zimmerman. He was entirely within his rights and the law to follow Trayvon and didn't have to sit there and take a beat down.

BLM should have focused on cases like Walter Scott not Trayvon and the Gentle Giant.

The Trayvon Martin incident perfectly epitomizes the moral depravity of trumpism. A 17 year old kid who weighed 158 pounds walking home from school beat the shit out of a 30-year old fat fuck following him. The cowardly fat fuck (is there any other kind) murdered the kid because he couldn’t defend himself. Trumpism in a microcosm.

Walking home from school. Ha. The only reason he was in Sanford was because he'd been kicked out of school for the 3rd time that year and his mother kicked him out of the house so he was staying with this father.

Not quite sure how Trump has anything to do with Trademark.

George Zimmerman: an obese unskilled uneducated adult who got his ass kicked by a 17 year old kid, and then murdered the child with a concealed weapon in desperation and futility. Nothing could be more trump.

Gosh, if only your feelings held sway here and not the law. I'd say that George did get his ass kicked but he got off a pretty good punch.

I had no doubt you’d say that. OJ and I are having belly laughs at you.

Trademark should have thought twice before attacking the White Hispanic. This would have never been anything more than a local crime story if George was named Jorge Zapata

No it would not have. Both of the Miami race riots were touched off by Cuban cops shooting black men, one in liberty city and one in over town. And how do you know Martin attacked Zimmerman? Or are you just assuming that? I wonder why? You normally seem so fair and balanced. Could it not have just as easily been the case that Zimmerman tried to strong arm the kid, and the kid turned out to be a much better fighter than he might have surmised based on just looking at him? I also noticed that you went through the trouble of pointing out that Martin was kicked out of his moms house because that never happens with 17-year-old boys unless they are career criminals. Why didn't you also point out that Zimmerman's history before and after the incident Indicate pretty strongly that he was is and always will be a giant douche bag with very very very questionable judgment for a grown man?

If Martin were white we wouldn’t have heard about it. I think we all know that.

“If Martin were white he wouldn’t have been shot” yeah..bullshit.

That's probably right. But I wonder: do you think if Martin White and Zimmerman were black there's a different outcome in the court case? Legitimate question.

It would have never gone to trial. The police, just as they did in the Zimmerman case would have rightly concluded that it was self-defense and no charges would have ever been filed. The only reason Zimmerman was charged was because of the political pressure and the lying media.

SFGbob

creepycoug said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

SFGbob said:

RaceBannon said:

Of all the shit people can hang on Obama, in my view one of the most disingenuous is the racial division shit. What he did to fan the flames of racial tension in this country is to get elected in the first place. Country wasn't ready for a black guy in office unless he had walked, talked and danced like a hard-core right winger, and even then, it would have been a problem


Bull shit

How did the fuck do you think he got elected? 90% of 13% of the population? No

Fanning the flames is too strong - more like whining like a little bitch about a country that elected him twice

His actions after the Mike Brown shooting where his DOJ knew that "hands up don't shoot" story was a lie and yet he still allowed Congressional Rats pull stunts like this without every calling them out and telling the public that the story wasn't true definitely fanned the flames especially toward the police. Don't forget that in both the Trayvon Martin case and the Mike Brown the Obama Admin openly sided with the perps and not the innocent victims. His administration sent people to both Brown and Martin's funeral and also help to organize protests in both instances.

The kind of stuff he did was ineffective while being offensive. I think the record shows most of the country willing to give him a shot when he was elected. Much more so than Trump got.

Creepy is right in that Obama didn't address serious issues mainly because his economic policies sucked for everyone so they sucked more for Blacks.

Rather than the hands up stuff why not a serious looks at incarceration and if there is anything we can do to close that gap and stop creating career criminals at the age of 14. Once a kid is in the system its hard to get them out. Do we treat Black teenagers tougher than whites?

Those are actual serious issues that cross racial lines. I was talking with a couple of old white guys about Kapernick and I said I don't think the data supports what he says on cop killings but I do think a white kid has a better chance to get away with something. They thought for a minute and said - that's right it is easier being white when it comes to the police.

We don't want to lose our privilege though we want everyone to have it

Yes, this. This is what I mean when I say that black leadership should be more focused on root cause, which, candidly, implicates everyone on one level or another. That would be more constructive.

I'm not going to re-litigate the Trayvon Martin case here, though I still think Zimmerman is a little banana busy body and caused something that wouldn't have happened w/o his "intervention." Mike Brown was not a good case for the BLM cause in my view. But for every one of those, there are 50 like South Side Flats and Eric Garner, the latter of which was particularly egregious.

My point is that those who claim there's not 'there' there are full of shit, and this isn't a fabricated 'made up' issue. I don't read you, Race, to be making that point. I wonder about some of our friends though. Stand to be corrected.

First of all who said this was a "made up" issue? I think police brutality and being too trigger happy is a very real issue. I just don't think that blacks are the only ones being impacted by it. I don't see it as a race issue, I see it as a police issue. And it doesn't matter what you think about Zimmerman. He was entirely within his rights and the law to follow Trayvon and didn't have to sit there and take a beat down.

BLM should have focused on cases like Walter Scott not Trayvon and the Gentle Giant.

The Trayvon Martin incident perfectly epitomizes the moral depravity of trumpism. A 17 year old kid who weighed 158 pounds walking home from school beat the shit out of a 30-year old fat fuck following him. The cowardly fat fuck (is there any other kind) murdered the kid because he couldn’t defend himself. Trumpism in a microcosm.

Walking home from school. Ha. The only reason he was in Sanford was because he'd been kicked out of school for the 3rd time that year and his mother kicked him out of the house so he was staying with this father.

Not quite sure how Trump has anything to do with Trademark.

And? He was walking home from 7-11 with candy and soda. Doesn't matter that he wasn't an Eagle Scout. Or does it?

You have a 17-year old unarmed and skinny kid walking alone and being followed by a grown man with a gun. Grown man likely tried to detain him or something for looking suspicious, kid probably has some edge to him, told him to GTFO or whatever, grown make gets his ass kicked, didn't count on that happening, and instead of tucking tail he shot him. Great outcome. But he was well within his rights.

Ok!!!!

No, it matters that he attacked and beat Zimmerman. Zimmerman then defended himself. Case closed. Likely tried to detain him? You're not "likely" pulling claims out of your ass, you're doing it.