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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    AZDuck


    Roaddawg is worthless but the fact he is here and not at dickman is a great compliment. Race doesn't know how many players complete a fielded team, but he's entertaining.

    You've been name dropping me quite often recently. I remember you doing the same to DawgNews over at dawgman. Does this make me the Bill Fleenor of Hardcore Husky?

    That all depends. Have you ever been a mayor? Are you friends with Dan Beebe? Have you ever been F**ked by Larry Scott's tennis racket?
    I would have up-rated your post, but for the life of me don't understand why you self-censored the word "fuck."

  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031
    if you haven't figured out that Derek's a famous author who could get held to Paula Deen standards then I can't help you.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    AZDuck
    Meek said:

    if you haven't figured out that Derek's a famous author who could get held to Paula Deen standards then I can't help you.

    Wait, Derek is going to die from butter induced heart failure?

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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,423 Founders Club
    I'm aware that some well-heeled people are reading this board and I am making the miserable and pathetic attempt to preserve an ounce of decorum.
  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031

    I'm aware that some well-heeled people are reading this board and I am making the miserable and pathetic attempt to preserve an ounce of decorum.

    high powered boosters and recruits' parents?

  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    edited June 2013


    Meek said:

    can't we just complain to the mods so they get muted like those fagtards complained to grinolds and fatters about us?

    Everyone complained about you. And Damone. The place is better with you guys gone.
    The place sucks. First of all, it's three main mods/contibutors playing musical chairs. However, for their version of this game, they substitute chairs with key UW coaches and AD's asses. When the music stops, they must find one of these asses to place their head in. Luckily, there are enough asses so that nobody ever loses. None of them have to worry about not having an ass to stick their head up.

    Does that sound like an accurate analogy to their defending every coach and AD's every move and performance? I can take some defending, but every fucking time? When we are 7-6 every year? When we get blown out by 30+ 3-4 times every year? When our OL sucks every year? When we advertise tickets with Crazy Larry? Criticism is certainly deserved after many of our performances.

    If you can get past that, you get great, insightful posts about how special this year is going to be. Ignore all of the hard evidence from the past, this year is going to be special because Section 14A, DaveF, UWSuperfan, ladyhawks, and Howl4Dawgs think it will be. Sounds like a great place to me.

    So, what's your agenda? The guys at DM re HUSKY fans and support the program. You bitch about them and the program.
    It's too bad that you actually need to ask that question. The agenda is to have a forum for an honest discussion about the pluses and minuses of Husky football. You can no longer have that over on the other website. kim's sole motivation is to be "accepted" by the powers-that-be on Montlake, and to get his occasional pat on the head he must censor and spin like a Soviet-era newspaper.

    He also can't take criticism. It's unbelievable - he actually bans people for calling bullshit on his contradictory statements. What a thin-skinned man he is.

    The bottom line is that everyone here wants Husky Football to be successful, but simply applauding Sark like a bunch of Kim Jong-Un supporters isn't the way to do it. A real football forum doesn't censor a subscriber, but rather allows other subscribers to point out where the subscriber is being stupid. THAT IS HOW FREE SPEECH IS SUPPOSED TO WORK!

    Unfortunately Mr. Small Man's Syndrome doesn't see it that way, and has ruined his website in the process.

    If the Huskies can pull out a 9 or 10 win season this fall AND land some decent OL recruits (I won't hold my breath) you will see me and I'm sure several others cheering and jumping up and down on this message board. Or, you can simply go to doucheman.com where they do it regardless of how successful the program is.

  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137
    edited June 2013
    DUCKSareOVERRATED
    Passion said:


    Meek said:

    can't we just complain to the mods so they get muted like those fagtards complained to grinolds and fatters about us?

    Everyone complained about you. And Damone. The place is better with you guys gone.
    The place sucks. First of all, it's three main mods/contibutors playing musical chairs. However, for their version of this game, they substitute chairs with key UW coaches and AD's asses. When the music stops, they must find one of these asses to place their head in. Luckily, there are enough asses so that nobody ever loses. None of them have to worry about not having an ass to stick their head up.

    Does that sound like an accurate analogy to their defending every coach and AD's every move and performance? I can take some defending, but every fucking time? When we are 7-6 every year? When we get blown out by 30+ 3-4 times every year? When our OL sucks every year? When we advertise tickets with Crazy Larry? Criticism is certainly deserved after many of our performances.

    If you can get past that, you get great, insightful posts about how special this year is going to be. Ignore all of the hard evidence from the past, this year is going to be special because Section 14A, DaveF, UWSuperfan, ladyhawks, and Howl4Dawgs think it will be. Sounds like a great place to me.

    So, what's your agenda? The guys at DM re HUSKY fans and support the program. You bitch about them and the program.
    It's too bad that you actually need to ask that question. The agenda is to have a forum for an honest discussion about the pluses and minuses of Husky football. You can no longer have that over on the other website. kim's sole motivation is to be "accepted" by the powers-that-be on Montlake, and to get his occasional pat on the head he must censor and spin like a Soviet-era newspaper.

    He also can't take criticism. It's unbelievable - he actually bans people for calling bullshit on his contradictory statements. What a thin-skinned man he is.

    The bottom line is that everyone here wants Husky Football to be successful, but simply applauding Sark like a bunch of Kim Jong-Un supporters isn't the way to do it. A real football forum doesn't censor a subscriber, but rather allows other subscribers to point out where the subscriber is being stupid. THAT IS HOW FREE SPEECH IS SUPPOSED TO WORK!

    Unfortunately Mr. Small Man's Syndrome doesn't see it that way, and has ruined his website in the process.

    If the Huskies can pull out a 9 or 10 win season this fall AND land some decent OL recruits (I won't hold my breath) you will see me and I'm sure several others cheering and jumping up and down on this message board. Or, you can simply go to doucheman.com where they do it regardless of how successful the program is.

    Absolutely. I still love Husky football and will be pumped for the season to begin once fall camp begins. If we start playing smart, physical, disciplined football, I will change my tune and will have no problem admitting I jumped the gun with Sark.



  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    edited June 2013

    Passion said:


    Meek said:

    can't we just complain to the mods so they get muted like those fagtards complained to grinolds and fatters about us?

    Everyone complained about you. And Damone. The place is better with you guys gone.
    The place sucks. First of all, it's three main mods/contibutors playing musical chairs. However, for their version of this game, they substitute chairs with key UW coaches and AD's asses. When the music stops, they must find one of these asses to place their head in. Luckily, there are enough asses so that nobody ever loses. None of them have to worry about not having an ass to stick their head up.

    Does that sound like an accurate analogy to their defending every coach and AD's every move and performance? I can take some defending, but every fucking time? When we are 7-6 every year? When we get blown out by 30+ 3-4 times every year? When our OL sucks every year? When we advertise tickets with Crazy Larry? Criticism is certainly deserved after many of our performances.

    If you can get past that, you get great, insightful posts about how special this year is going to be. Ignore all of the hard evidence from the past, this year is going to be special because Section 14A, DaveF, UWSuperfan, ladyhawks, and Howl4Dawgs think it will be. Sounds like a great place to me.

    So, what's your agenda? The guys at DM re HUSKY fans and support the program. You bitch about them and the program.
    It's too bad that you actually need to ask that question. The agenda is to have a forum for an honest discussion about the pluses and minuses of Husky football. You can no longer have that over on the other website. kim's sole motivation is to be "accepted" by the powers-that-be on Montlake, and to get his occasional pat on the head he must censor and spin like a Soviet-era newspaper.

    He also can't take criticism. It's unbelievable - he actually bans people for calling bullshit on his contradictory statements. What a thin-skinned man he is.

    The bottom line is that everyone here wants Husky Football to be successful, but simply applauding Sark like a bunch of Kim Jong-Un supporters isn't the way to do it. A real football forum doesn't censor a subscriber, but rather allows other subscribers to point out where the subscriber is being stupid. THAT IS HOW FREE SPEECH IS SUPPOSED TO WORK!

    Unfortunately Mr. Small Man's Syndrome doesn't see it that way, and has ruined his website in the process.

    If the Huskies can pull out a 9 or 10 win season this fall AND land some decent OL recruits (I won't hold my breath) you will see me and I'm sure several others cheering and jumping up and down on this message board. Or, you can simply go to doucheman.com where they do it regardless of how successful the program is.

    Absolutely. I still love Husky football and will be pumped for the season to begin once fall camp begins. If we start playing smart, physical, disciplined football, I will change my tune and will have no problem admitting I jumped the gun with Sark.



    To be honest, I've reached a tipping point on my feelings with Sark. I jumped off the Sark bandwagon when we lost Banner and Garnett, and it got worse when we lost Myles Jack, Max Browne, and that douchebag CB from Everett that went to notre dame. His teams have basically plateaued on the field, and there have been too many in-state recruiting losses and sub-par OL recruiting classes.

    When you consider all the good players that Sark recruited (that I listed the other day, with Damone's addendum), I don't really consider this team to be demonstrably better than the team he inherited. That team in 2009 could've easily won 6 or 7 games.

    However, I will give credit where credit is due. Sark has made football enjoyable for his players, whereas willingham made it miserable. I also don't know if we'd be playing in a new stadium this year if it hadn't been for his enthusiasm. He's done some good things.

    So now I feel like I'm balancing myself on the top of a picket fence - waiting for a stiff breeze to push me one way or the other. Will the breeze be more recruiting losses, another substandard O-line class and a 7-6 record? OR, will we turn the corner?
  • Steve_Bowman
    Steve_Bowman Member Posts: 442
    edited June 2013
    As I've said (probably too often) there is zero hope that Cream Puff will produce anything but marginal teams. The heart of warrior is not something you can develop and learn in your 30s. You have it or you don't at his stage in life. Steve does not. His softness precludes being a warrior/fierce competitor.

    However, if he's 10 - 2 this year, I'll eat massive amounts of crow and be happy to do so. 9 - 3 plus a bowl win will make me think twice about the grim outlook.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    As I've said (probably too often) there is zero hope that Cream Puff will produce anything but marginal teams. The heart of warrior is not something you can develop and learn in your 30s. You have it or you don't at his stage in life. Steve does not. His softness precludes being a warrior/fierce competitor.

    However, if he's 10 - 2 this year, I'll eat massive amounts of crow and be happy to do so. 9 - 3 plus a bowl win will make me think twice about the grim outlook.

    Fuck that. Sarks a mediocore coach. The stars could align and UW could have a bunch of good luck, like Ty did when he went 10-3 one year at Notre Dame, and Sark could get to 10 wins but that's no reason to eat crow. Ask yourself this, could you ever see a Sark led team winning 10 games in back to back seasons?
  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031
    Swaye said:

    Meek said:

    if you haven't figured out that Derek's a famous author who could get held to Paula Deen standards then I can't help you.

    Wait, Derek is going to die from butter induced heart failure?

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    feel free to catch the news every now and then
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    As I've said (probably too often) there is zero hope that Cream Puff will produce anything but marginal teams. The heart of warrior is not something you can develop and learn in your 30s. You have it or you don't at his stage in life. Steve does not. His softness precludes being a warrior/fierce competitor.

    However, if he's 10 - 2 this year, I'll eat massive amounts of crow and be happy to do so. 9 - 3 plus a bowl win will make me think twice about the grim outlook.

    Fuck that. Sarks a mediocore coach. The stars could align and UW could have a bunch of good luck, like Ty did when he went 10-3 one year at Notre Dame, and Sark could get to 10 wins but that's no reason to eat crow. Ask yourself this, could you ever see a Sark led team winning 10 games in back to back seasons?
    When Sark's lost the one HHB who supported his hire, he's lost the fanbase.
  • Steve_Bowman
    Steve_Bowman Member Posts: 442
    Could Cream Puff go 10 & 2 twice? We'll never find out, but I suspect so if he does it once.

    Actually, the Welfare Rat went 9 - 3 in 2001 including a bowl loss, his best. He had a couple of losing seasons before that. Cream Puff is at least mediocre....the Ty'ster wasn't fit to be a high school assistant.

    As I've said (probably too often) there is zero hope that Cream Puff will produce anything but marginal teams. The heart of warrior is not something you can develop and learn in your 30s. You have it or you don't at his stage in life. Steve does not. His softness precludes being a warrior/fierce competitor.

    However, if he's 10 - 2 this year, I'll eat massive amounts of crow and be happy to do so. 9 - 3 plus a bowl win will make me think twice about the grim outlook.

    Fuck that. Sarks a mediocore coach. The stars could align and UW could have a bunch of good luck, like Ty did when he went 10-3 one year at Notre Dame, and Sark could get to 10 wins but that's no reason to eat crow. Ask yourself this, could you ever see a Sark led team winning 10 games in back to back seasons?
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    DUCKSareOVERRATED


    Meek said:

    can't we just complain to the mods so they get muted like those fagtards complained to grinolds and fatters about us?

    Everyone complained about you. And Damone. The place is better with you guys gone.
    The place sucks. First of all, it's three main mods/contibutors playing musical chairs. However, for their version of this game, they substitute chairs with key UW coaches and AD's asses. When the music stops, they must find one of these asses to place their head in. Luckily, there are enough asses so that nobody ever loses. None of them have to worry about not having an ass to stick their head up.

    Does that sound like an accurate analogy to their defending every coach and AD's every move and performance? I can take some defending, but every fucking time? When we are 7-6 every year? When we get blown out by 30+ 3-4 times every year? When our OL sucks every year? When we advertise tickets with Crazy Larry? Criticism is certainly deserved after many of our performances.

    If you can get past that, you get great, insightful posts about how special this year is going to be. Ignore all of the hard evidence from the past, this year is going to be special because Section 14A, DaveF, UWSuperfan, ladyhawks, and Howl4Dawgs think it will be. Sounds like a great place to me.

    So, what's your agenda? The guys at DM re HUSKY fans and support the program. You bitch about them and the program.
    If you've consistently supported the steaming shit sandwich that the program has served over the last 11 years, you deserve to die in a fucking fire.

    Hope this helps.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    DUCKSareOVERRATED

    Could Cream Puff go 10 & 2 twice? We'll never find out, but I suspect so if he does it once.

    Actually, the Welfare Rat went 9 - 3 in 2001 including a bowl loss, his best. He had a couple of losing seasons before that. Cream Puff is at least mediocre....the Ty'ster wasn't fit to be a high school assistant.

    As I've said (probably too often) there is zero hope that Cream Puff will produce anything but marginal teams. The heart of warrior is not something you can develop and learn in your 30s. You have it or you don't at his stage in life. Steve does not. His softness precludes being a warrior/fierce competitor.

    However, if he's 10 - 2 this year, I'll eat massive amounts of crow and be happy to do so. 9 - 3 plus a bowl win will make me think twice about the grim outlook.

    Fuck that. Sarks a mediocore coach. The stars could align and UW could have a bunch of good luck, like Ty did when he went 10-3 one year at Notre Dame, and Sark could get to 10 wins but that's no reason to eat crow. Ask yourself this, could you ever see a Sark led team winning 10 games in back to back seasons?
    Ty has more Rose Bowl appearances and Coach of the Year awards than Sark.

    Just saying.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    This thread delivers
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137
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    Sark won't win 10, so we really don't even have to contemplate how we would feel if he did. It's more likely we win 5 and miss a bowl than 10.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    AZDuck
    I think it sez something good about this bored that we turned an attempt by me to screw with a racist into ACTUAL! FOOTBALL!! DISCUSSION!!!

    This is a quality, classy bored and I look forward to all your posts. (Except DaO and that Puppylove bestiality guy)
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,511
    I am still holding onto the tiniest glimmer of hope that Sark can have a big year next year or that Wilcox's defense (paired with a mediocre offense) will win us a lot of games. This season the recruiting/program pendulum will begin falling one way or another. If we win 10 games, I do think we will have a very good recruiting class and have genuine excitement about the program.

    If we win 7, 8 or less, you can expect a terrible recruiting class, and Sark will be a complete lame-duck. Hopefully at that point, Woodward has the sense to tell Sark "go look for an NFL QB coach/coordinator job if you don't want to be fired"
  • Steve_Bowman
    Steve_Bowman Member Posts: 442
    edited June 2013
    Good, but sad point. Cream Puff will never see a BCS field unless he's an assistant.

    Could Cream Puff go 10 & 2 twice? We'll never find out, but I suspect so if he does it once.

    Actually, the Welfare Rat went 9 - 3 in 2001 including a bowl loss, his best. He had a couple of losing seasons before that. Cream Puff is at least mediocre....the Ty'ster wasn't fit to be a high school assistant.

    As I've said (probably too often) there is zero hope that Cream Puff will produce anything but marginal teams. The heart of warrior is not something you can develop and learn in your 30s. You have it or you don't at his stage in life. Steve does not. His softness precludes being a warrior/fierce competitor.

    However, if he's 10 - 2 this year, I'll eat massive amounts of crow and be happy to do so. 9 - 3 plus a bowl win will make me think twice about the grim outlook.

    Ty has more Rose Bowl appearances and Coach of the Year awards than Sark.

    Just saying.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    DUCKSareOVERRATED

    I am still holding onto the tiniest glimmer of hope that Sark can have a big year next year or that Wilcox's defense (paired with a mediocre offense) will win us a lot of games. This season the recruiting/program pendulum will begin falling one way or another. If we win 10 games, I do think we will have a very good recruiting class and have genuine excitement about the program.

    If we win 7, 8 or less, you can expect a terrible recruiting class, and Sark will be a complete lame-duck. Hopefully at that point, Woodward has the sense to tell Sark "go look for an NFL QB coach/coordinator job if you don't want to be fired"

    Did you copy/paste this post from the summer of 2012?
  • ACSlaterDawg
    ACSlaterDawg Member Posts: 200

    I am still holding onto the tiniest glimmer of hope that Sark can have a big year next year or that Wilcox's defense (paired with a mediocre offense) will win us a lot of games. This season the recruiting/program pendulum will begin falling one way or another. If we win 10 games, I do think we will have a very good recruiting class and have genuine excitement about the program.

    If we win 7, 8 or less, you can expect a terrible recruiting class, and Sark will be a complete lame-duck. Hopefully at that point, Woodward has the sense to tell Sark "go look for an NFL QB coach/coordinator job if you don't want to be fired"

    8 is the disaster scenario. Its failure yet improvement to some people. How Woodward handles the next offseason is critical.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    I am still holding onto the tiniest glimmer of hope that Sark can have a big year next year or that Wilcox's defense (paired with a mediocre offense) will win us a lot of games. This season the recruiting/program pendulum will begin falling one way or another. If we win 10 games, I do think we will have a very good recruiting class and have genuine excitement about the program.

    If we win 7, 8 or less, you can expect a terrible recruiting class, and Sark will be a complete lame-duck. Hopefully at that point, Woodward has the sense to tell Sark "go look for an NFL QB coach/coordinator job if you don't want to be fired"

    8 is the disaster scenario. Its failure yet improvement to some people. How Woodward handles the next offseason is critical.
    Eight is not improvement "to some people". Eight from 7, 7, 7 is improvement, period. It's basically the definition.

    The problem is that doogs believe improvement = success. When you're talking gaining one win over four years, not the case.

  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    DUCKSareOVERRATED

    I am still holding onto the tiniest glimmer of hope that Sark can have a big year next year or that Wilcox's defense (paired with a mediocre offense) will win us a lot of games. This season the recruiting/program pendulum will begin falling one way or another. If we win 10 games, I do think we will have a very good recruiting class and have genuine excitement about the program.

    If we win 7, 8 or less, you can expect a terrible recruiting class, and Sark will be a complete lame-duck. Hopefully at that point, Woodward has the sense to tell Sark "go look for an NFL QB coach/coordinator job if you don't want to be fired"

    8 is the disaster scenario. Its failure yet improvement to some people. How Woodward handles the next offseason is critical.
    Eight is not improvement "to some people". Eight from 7, 7, 7 is improvement, period. It's basically the definition.

    The problem is that doogs believe improvement = success. When you're talking gaining one win over four years, not the case.

    Have you looked at the OOC schedule this year? 8 is the new 7.

  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,511
    To me, this is the best case scenario:

    Justin Wilcox becomes our defensive Chip Kelly.

    We have a great season but it is because our D is top in the Pac while our Offense is somewhere in the middle (performing well when they need to with a little luck on our side). At the end of the year Sark,Woody, and everyone else see the writing on the wall. Sark, with the urging/blessing of the UW athletic department takes a job in the NFL. Wilcox is elevated to HC, Sirmon to DC, Tosh is given extra recruiting duties, Cozetto and Nansen are sent to the glue factory, Wilcox hires an OL coach and RB coach with recruiting/on the field results
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    To me, this is the best case scenario:

    Justin Wilcox becomes our defensive Chip Kelly.

    We have a great season but it is because our D is top in the Pac while our Offense is somewhere in the middle (performing well when they need to with a little luck on our side). At the end of the year Sark,Woody, and everyone else see the writing on the wall. Sark, with the urging/blessing of the UW athletic department takes a job in the NFL. Wilcox is elevated to HC, Sirmon to DC, Tosh is given extra recruiting duties, Cozetto and Nansen are sent to the glue factory, Wilcox hires an OL coach and RB coach with recruiting/on the field results

    Yeah...that's not going to happen.

    Wilcox isn't that great. Neither is tosh.1
  • section8
    section8 Member Posts: 1,581

    To me, this is the best case scenario:

    Justin Wilcox becomes our defensive Chip Kelly.

    We have a great season but it is because our D is top in the Pac while our Offense is somewhere in the middle (performing well when they need to with a little luck on our side). At the end of the year Sark,Woody, and everyone else see the writing on the wall. Sark, with the urging/blessing of the UW athletic department takes a job in the NFL. Wilcox is elevated to HC, Sirmon to DC, Tosh is given extra recruiting duties, Cozetto and Nansen are sent to the glue factory, Wilcox hires an OL coach and RB coach with recruiting/on the field results

    Yeah...that's not going to happen.

    Wilcox isn't that great. Neither is tosh.1
    Wilcox could be great but we won't find out until he takes the DC job at some SEC school and wins a couple title games.

  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,423 Founders Club

    To me, this is the best case scenario:

    Justin Wilcox becomes our defensive Chip Kelly.

    We have a great season but it is because our D is top in the Pac while our Offense is somewhere in the middle (performing well when they need to with a little luck on our side). At the end of the year Sark,Woody, and everyone else see the writing on the wall. Sark, with the urging/blessing of the UW athletic department takes a job in the NFL. Wilcox is elevated to HC, Sirmon to DC, Tosh is given extra recruiting duties, Cozetto and Nansen are sent to the glue factory, Wilcox hires an OL coach and RB coach with recruiting/on the field results

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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    section8 said:

    To me, this is the best case scenario:

    Justin Wilcox becomes our defensive Chip Kelly.

    We have a great season but it is because our D is top in the Pac while our Offense is somewhere in the middle (performing well when they need to with a little luck on our side). At the end of the year Sark,Woody, and everyone else see the writing on the wall. Sark, with the urging/blessing of the UW athletic department takes a job in the NFL. Wilcox is elevated to HC, Sirmon to DC, Tosh is given extra recruiting duties, Cozetto and Nansen are sent to the glue factory, Wilcox hires an OL coach and RB coach with recruiting/on the field results

    Yeah...that's not going to happen.

    Wilcox isn't that great. Neither is tosh.1
    Wilcox could be great but we won't find out until he takes the DC job at some SEC school and wins a couple title games.

    Holt could have been great too based on his usc time
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Could Cream Puff go 10 & 2 twice? We'll never find out, but I suspect so if he does it once.

    Actually, the Welfare Rat went 9 - 3 in 2001 including a bowl loss, his best. He had a couple of losing seasons before that. Cream Puff is at least mediocre....the Ty'ster wasn't fit to be a high school assistant.

    As I've said (probably too often) there is zero hope that Cream Puff will produce anything but marginal teams. The heart of warrior is not something you can develop and learn in your 30s. You have it or you don't at his stage in life. Steve does not. His softness precludes being a warrior/fierce competitor.

    However, if he's 10 - 2 this year, I'll eat massive amounts of crow and be happy to do so. 9 - 3 plus a bowl win will make me think twice about the grim outlook.

    Fuck that. Sarks a mediocore coach. The stars could align and UW could have a bunch of good luck, like Ty did when he went 10-3 one year at Notre Dame, and Sark could get to 10 wins but that's no reason to eat crow. Ask yourself this, could you ever see a Sark led team winning 10 games in back to back seasons?
    I know all you nega dawgs like to rewrite history and act like Ty was the worst coach ever but the truth is he was the definition of mediocore. That was the entire objection to him being hired.

    0-12 was a complete debacle (and another 0-12 is clearly needed) and the majority of the blame is on Ty's shoulders but he's not the reason Locker got hurt and it wasn't his decision to bring back a lame duck coach. His career record without 0-12 is 76-76-1. Sark is Ty.