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Did you copy/paste this post from the summer of 2012?bananasnblondes said:I am still holding onto the tiniest glimmer of hope that Sark can have a big year next year or that Wilcox's defense (paired with a mediocre offense) will win us a lot of games. This season the recruiting/program pendulum will begin falling one way or another. If we win 10 games, I do think we will have a very good recruiting class and have genuine excitement about the program.
If we win 7, 8 or less, you can expect a terrible recruiting class, and Sark will be a complete lame-duck. Hopefully at that point, Woodward has the sense to tell Sark "go look for an NFL QB coach/coordinator job if you don't want to be fired" -
8 is the disaster scenario. Its failure yet improvement to some people. How Woodward handles the next offseason is critical.bananasnblondes said:I am still holding onto the tiniest glimmer of hope that Sark can have a big year next year or that Wilcox's defense (paired with a mediocre offense) will win us a lot of games. This season the recruiting/program pendulum will begin falling one way or another. If we win 10 games, I do think we will have a very good recruiting class and have genuine excitement about the program.
If we win 7, 8 or less, you can expect a terrible recruiting class, and Sark will be a complete lame-duck. Hopefully at that point, Woodward has the sense to tell Sark "go look for an NFL QB coach/coordinator job if you don't want to be fired" -
Eight is not improvement "to some people". Eight from 7, 7, 7 is improvement, period. It's basically the definition.ACSlaterDawg said:
8 is the disaster scenario. Its failure yet improvement to some people. How Woodward handles the next offseason is critical.bananasnblondes said:I am still holding onto the tiniest glimmer of hope that Sark can have a big year next year or that Wilcox's defense (paired with a mediocre offense) will win us a lot of games. This season the recruiting/program pendulum will begin falling one way or another. If we win 10 games, I do think we will have a very good recruiting class and have genuine excitement about the program.
If we win 7, 8 or less, you can expect a terrible recruiting class, and Sark will be a complete lame-duck. Hopefully at that point, Woodward has the sense to tell Sark "go look for an NFL QB coach/coordinator job if you don't want to be fired"
The problem is that doogs believe improvement = success. When you're talking gaining one win over four years, not the case.
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Have you looked at the OOC schedule this year? 8 is the new 7.HillsboroDuck said:
Eight is not improvement "to some people". Eight from 7, 7, 7 is improvement, period. It's basically the definition.ACSlaterDawg said:
8 is the disaster scenario. Its failure yet improvement to some people. How Woodward handles the next offseason is critical.bananasnblondes said:I am still holding onto the tiniest glimmer of hope that Sark can have a big year next year or that Wilcox's defense (paired with a mediocre offense) will win us a lot of games. This season the recruiting/program pendulum will begin falling one way or another. If we win 10 games, I do think we will have a very good recruiting class and have genuine excitement about the program.
If we win 7, 8 or less, you can expect a terrible recruiting class, and Sark will be a complete lame-duck. Hopefully at that point, Woodward has the sense to tell Sark "go look for an NFL QB coach/coordinator job if you don't want to be fired"
The problem is that doogs believe improvement = success. When you're talking gaining one win over four years, not the case.
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To me, this is the best case scenario:
Justin Wilcox becomes our defensive Chip Kelly.
We have a great season but it is because our D is top in the Pac while our Offense is somewhere in the middle (performing well when they need to with a little luck on our side). At the end of the year Sark,Woody, and everyone else see the writing on the wall. Sark, with the urging/blessing of the UW athletic department takes a job in the NFL. Wilcox is elevated to HC, Sirmon to DC, Tosh is given extra recruiting duties, Cozetto and Nansen are sent to the glue factory, Wilcox hires an OL coach and RB coach with recruiting/on the field results -
Yeah...that's not going to happen.bananasnblondes said:To me, this is the best case scenario:
Justin Wilcox becomes our defensive Chip Kelly.
We have a great season but it is because our D is top in the Pac while our Offense is somewhere in the middle (performing well when they need to with a little luck on our side). At the end of the year Sark,Woody, and everyone else see the writing on the wall. Sark, with the urging/blessing of the UW athletic department takes a job in the NFL. Wilcox is elevated to HC, Sirmon to DC, Tosh is given extra recruiting duties, Cozetto and Nansen are sent to the glue factory, Wilcox hires an OL coach and RB coach with recruiting/on the field results
Wilcox isn't that great. Neither is tosh.1
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Wilcox could be great but we won't find out until he takes the DC job at some SEC school and wins a couple title games.MikeDamone said:
Yeah...that's not going to happen.bananasnblondes said:To me, this is the best case scenario:
Justin Wilcox becomes our defensive Chip Kelly.
We have a great season but it is because our D is top in the Pac while our Offense is somewhere in the middle (performing well when they need to with a little luck on our side). At the end of the year Sark,Woody, and everyone else see the writing on the wall. Sark, with the urging/blessing of the UW athletic department takes a job in the NFL. Wilcox is elevated to HC, Sirmon to DC, Tosh is given extra recruiting duties, Cozetto and Nansen are sent to the glue factory, Wilcox hires an OL coach and RB coach with recruiting/on the field results
Wilcox isn't that great. Neither is tosh.1
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bananasnblondes said:
To me, this is the best case scenario:
Justin Wilcox becomes our defensive Chip Kelly.
We have a great season but it is because our D is top in the Pac while our Offense is somewhere in the middle (performing well when they need to with a little luck on our side). At the end of the year Sark,Woody, and everyone else see the writing on the wall. Sark, with the urging/blessing of the UW athletic department takes a job in the NFL. Wilcox is elevated to HC, Sirmon to DC, Tosh is given extra recruiting duties, Cozetto and Nansen are sent to the glue factory, Wilcox hires an OL coach and RB coach with recruiting/on the field results
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Holt could have been great too based on his usc timesection8 said:
Wilcox could be great but we won't find out until he takes the DC job at some SEC school and wins a couple title games.MikeDamone said:
Yeah...that's not going to happen.bananasnblondes said:To me, this is the best case scenario:
Justin Wilcox becomes our defensive Chip Kelly.
We have a great season but it is because our D is top in the Pac while our Offense is somewhere in the middle (performing well when they need to with a little luck on our side). At the end of the year Sark,Woody, and everyone else see the writing on the wall. Sark, with the urging/blessing of the UW athletic department takes a job in the NFL. Wilcox is elevated to HC, Sirmon to DC, Tosh is given extra recruiting duties, Cozetto and Nansen are sent to the glue factory, Wilcox hires an OL coach and RB coach with recruiting/on the field results
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I know all you nega dawgs like to rewrite history and act like Ty was the worst coach ever but the truth is he was the definition of mediocore. That was the entire objection to him being hired.Steve_Bowman said:Could Cream Puff go 10 & 2 twice? We'll never find out, but I suspect so if he does it once.
Actually, the Welfare Rat went 9 - 3 in 2001 including a bowl loss, his best. He had a couple of losing seasons before that. Cream Puff is at least mediocre....the Ty'ster wasn't fit to be a high school assistant.TheKobeStopper said:
Fuck that. Sarks a mediocore coach. The stars could align and UW could have a bunch of good luck, like Ty did when he went 10-3 one year at Notre Dame, and Sark could get to 10 wins but that's no reason to eat crow. Ask yourself this, could you ever see a Sark led team winning 10 games in back to back seasons?Steve_Bowman said:As I've said (probably too often) there is zero hope that Cream Puff will produce anything but marginal teams. The heart of warrior is not something you can develop and learn in your 30s. You have it or you don't at his stage in life. Steve does not. His softness precludes being a warrior/fierce competitor.
However, if he's 10 - 2 this year, I'll eat massive amounts of crow and be happy to do so. 9 - 3 plus a bowl win will make me think twice about the grim outlook.
0-12 was a complete debacle (and another 0-12 is clearly needed) and the majority of the blame is on Ty's shoulders but he's not the reason Locker got hurt and it wasn't his decision to bring back a lame duck coach. His career record without 0-12 is 76-76-1. Sark is Ty.





