Welcome to the Hardcore Husky Forums. Folks who are well-known in Cyberland and not that dumb.
$39 billion bailout for industries affected by tariffs
Comments
-
This is a Hondo level poast.MikeDamone said:
Because right or left, people love the state and fight to use it to their gain and disagree with property rights and self ownership. You certainly do.oregonblitzkrieg said:Libertarianism has its merits but it also has its limitations. As far as ever becoming a viable political/social system, it just doesn't pass the stress test.
-
Do you agree with property rights and self ownership? Hondo doesn’t.oregonblitzkrieg said:
This is a Hondo level poast.MikeDamone said:
Because right or left, people love the state and fight to use it to their gain and disagree with property rights and self ownership. You certainly do.oregonblitzkrieg said:Libertarianism has its merits but it also has its limitations. As far as ever becoming a viable political/social system, it just doesn't pass the stress test.
-
How exactly would your stateless utopia function in reality. No state, no military, no country. Putin and Xi would really like that.
-
Where did I ever suggest a stateless society?oregonblitzkrieg said:How exactly would your stateless utopia function in reality. No state, no military, no country. Putin and Xi would really like that.
-
Who doesn't agree with property rights, except for commies and socialists. Define self ownership.MikeDamone said:
Do you agree with property rights and self ownership? Hondo doesn’t.oregonblitzkrieg said:
This is a Hondo level poast.MikeDamone said:
Because right or left, people love the state and fight to use it to their gain and disagree with property rights and self ownership. You certainly do.oregonblitzkrieg said:Libertarianism has its merits but it also has its limitations. As far as ever becoming a viable political/social system, it just doesn't pass the stress test.
-
In another thread, unless you were trolling.MikeDamone said:
Where did I ever suggest a stateless society?oregonblitzkrieg said:How exactly would your stateless utopia function in reality. No state, no military, no country. Putin and Xi would really like that.
-
You’re not familiar with Locke? Are you being serious about not knowing what self ownership is? This leads me to believe you also are not clear on property rights.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Who doesn't agree with property rights, except for commies and socialists. Define self ownership.MikeDamone said:
Do you agree with property rights and self ownership? Hondo doesn’t.oregonblitzkrieg said:
This is a Hondo level poast.MikeDamone said:
Because right or left, people love the state and fight to use it to their gain and disagree with property rights and self ownership. You certainly do.oregonblitzkrieg said:Libertarianism has its merits but it also has its limitations. As far as ever becoming a viable political/social system, it just doesn't pass the stress test.
-
Link?oregonblitzkrieg said:
In another thread, unless you were trolling.MikeDamone said:
Where did I ever suggest a stateless society?oregonblitzkrieg said:How exactly would your stateless utopia function in reality. No state, no military, no country. Putin and Xi would really like that.
-
*could*
-
I've read his shit but its been awhile. Everyone has the right to control their own body and life, sure, up to the point where it infringes on someone else's life or liberty.MikeDamone said:
You’re not familiar with Locke? Are you being serious about not knowing what self ownership is? This leads me to believe you also are not clear on property rights.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Who doesn't agree with property rights, except for commies and socialists. Define self ownership.MikeDamone said:
Do you agree with property rights and self ownership? Hondo doesn’t.oregonblitzkrieg said:
This is a Hondo level poast.MikeDamone said:
Because right or left, people love the state and fight to use it to their gain and disagree with property rights and self ownership. You certainly do.oregonblitzkrieg said:Libertarianism has its merits but it also has its limitations. As far as ever becoming a viable political/social system, it just doesn't pass the stress test.
-
I’d recommend a refresheroregonblitzkrieg said:
I've read his shit but its been awhile. Everyone has the right to control their own body and life, sure, up to the point where it infringes on someone else's life or liberty.MikeDamone said:
You’re not familiar with Locke? Are you being serious about not knowing what self ownership is? This leads me to believe you also are not clear on property rights.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Who doesn't agree with property rights, except for commies and socialists. Define self ownership.MikeDamone said:
Do you agree with property rights and self ownership? Hondo doesn’t.oregonblitzkrieg said:
This is a Hondo level poast.MikeDamone said:
Because right or left, people love the state and fight to use it to their gain and disagree with property rights and self ownership. You certainly do.oregonblitzkrieg said:Libertarianism has its merits but it also has its limitations. As far as ever becoming a viable political/social system, it just doesn't pass the stress test.
-
Can't have a link when I was watching live and in passing buttfucker. Go to komo4.com cunt, find the link in TOP STORIES and find the bitch yourself. Want me to hold your fucking hand the rest of your life? Break free Damone, there's a wealth of knowledge right at your fingertips.MikeDamone said:
Link?oregonblitzkrieg said:
In another thread, unless you were trolling.MikeDamone said:
Where did I ever suggest a stateless society?oregonblitzkrieg said:How exactly would your stateless utopia function in reality. No state, no military, no country. Putin and Xi would really like that.
-
Where did I ever suggest this?MikeDamone said:
Do you agree with property rights and self ownership? Hondo doesn’t.oregonblitzkrieg said:
This is a Hondo level poast.MikeDamone said:
Because right or left, people love the state and fight to use it to their gain and disagree with property rights and self ownership. You certainly do.oregonblitzkrieg said:Libertarianism has its merits but it also has its limitations. As far as ever becoming a viable political/social system, it just doesn't pass the stress test.
-
No link. That’s what I thought. Because I never said that.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Can't have a link when I was watching live and in passing buttfucker. Go to komo4.com cunt, find the link in TOP STORIES and find the bitch yourself. Want me to hold your fucking hand the rest of your life? Break free Damone, there's a wealth of knowledge right at your fingertips.MikeDamone said:
Link?oregonblitzkrieg said:
In another thread, unless you were trolling.MikeDamone said:
Where did I ever suggest a stateless society?oregonblitzkrieg said:How exactly would your stateless utopia function in reality. No state, no military, no country. Putin and Xi would really like that.
-
You're the resident tome of economics history and scholarship. But I'm not sure you consider all of the possible outcomes if the philosophies you follow were into practice. For example, what level of social unrest would be caused by an open borders policy, and how would it be contained? If the people in a libertarian country voted in a communist government, what would happen then? It doesn't seem to have the answers to those kinds of questions. Libertarianism doesn't seem capable of defending its own existence in certain situations.MikeDamone said:
I’d recommend a refresheroregonblitzkrieg said:
I've read his shit but its been awhile. Everyone has the right to control their own body and life, sure, up to the point where it infringes on someone else's life or liberty.MikeDamone said:
You’re not familiar with Locke? Are you being serious about not knowing what self ownership is? This leads me to believe you also are not clear on property rights.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Who doesn't agree with property rights, except for commies and socialists. Define self ownership.MikeDamone said:
Do you agree with property rights and self ownership? Hondo doesn’t.oregonblitzkrieg said:
This is a Hondo level poast.MikeDamone said:
Because right or left, people love the state and fight to use it to their gain and disagree with property rights and self ownership. You certainly do.oregonblitzkrieg said:Libertarianism has its merits but it also has its limitations. As far as ever becoming a viable political/social system, it just doesn't pass the stress test.
-
You create some nice strawmen to attack.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're the resident tome of economics history and scholarship. But I'm not sure you consider all of the possible outcomes if the philosophies you follow were into practice. For example, what level of social unrest would be caused by an open borders policy, and how would it be contained? If the people in a libertarian country voted in a communist government, what would happen then? It doesn't seem to have the answers to those kinds of questions. It doesn't seem capable of defending its own existence.MikeDamone said:
I’d recommend a refresheroregonblitzkrieg said:
I've read his shit but its been awhile. Everyone has the right to control their own body and life, sure, up to the point where it infringes on someone else's life or liberty.MikeDamone said:
You’re not familiar with Locke? Are you being serious about not knowing what self ownership is? This leads me to believe you also are not clear on property rights.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Who doesn't agree with property rights, except for commies and socialists. Define self ownership.MikeDamone said:
Do you agree with property rights and self ownership? Hondo doesn’t.oregonblitzkrieg said:
This is a Hondo level poast.MikeDamone said:
Because right or left, people love the state and fight to use it to their gain and disagree with property rights and self ownership. You certainly do.oregonblitzkrieg said:Libertarianism has its merits but it also has its limitations. As far as ever becoming a viable political/social system, it just doesn't pass the stress test.
What is the basis for the assumption that there would be social unrest? People only immigrante if there is opportunity. If there is little opportunity there is no immigration. -
OBK? Property? ROFLMikeDamone said:
Because right or left, people love the state and fight to use it to their gain and disagree with property rights and self ownership. You certainly do.oregonblitzkrieg said:Libertarianism has its merits but it also has its limitations. As far as ever becoming a viable political/social system, it just doesn't pass the stress test.
-
-
I dig this response. From the dude who is a master at putting words in people's mouths.MikeDamone said:
No link. That’s what I thought. Because I never said that.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Can't have a link when I was watching live and in passing buttfucker. Go to komo4.com cunt, find the link in TOP STORIES and find the bitch yourself. Want me to hold your fucking hand the rest of your life? Break free Damone, there's a wealth of knowledge right at your fingertips.MikeDamone said:
Link?oregonblitzkrieg said:
In another thread, unless you were trolling.MikeDamone said:
Where did I ever suggest a stateless society?oregonblitzkrieg said:How exactly would your stateless utopia function in reality. No state, no military, no country. Putin and Xi would really like that.
-
It's Tommy's dream chick.Pitchfork51 said:
-
Most people don't relaize our government was meant to be small and weak. the founders feared a large central government. Yet look at us now. Political opponents can use the states own gigantic Orwellian spy agencies and apparatus against an opponent and the press is all for it. How far we've come.MikeDamone said:
Because right or left, people love the state and fight to use it to their gain and disagree with property rights and self ownership. You certainly do.oregonblitzkrieg said:Libertarianism has its merits but it also has its limitations. As far as ever becoming a viable political/social system, it just doesn't pass the stress test.
-
Trump says he’ll shut the whole wasteful, inefficient enterprise down by September 1. I support this proposal emphatically. I think we can all agree: Shut down the federal government asap and never ever re-open it again. Great idea sledog.Sledog said:
Most people don't relaize our government was meant to be small and weak. the founders feared a large central government. Yet look at us now. Political opponents can use the states own gigantic Orwellian spy agencies and apparatus against an opponent and the press is all for it. How far we've come.MikeDamone said:
Because right or left, people love the state and fight to use it to their gain and disagree with property rights and self ownership. You certainly do.oregonblitzkrieg said:Libertarianism has its merits but it also has its limitations. As far as ever becoming a viable political/social system, it just doesn't pass the stress test.
-
Shut the government down and don't open it back up, something to that effect. I'm not gonna try to find it, got better things to do.MikeDamone said:
No link. That’s what I thought. Because I never said that.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Can't have a link when I was watching live and in passing buttfucker. Go to komo4.com cunt, find the link in TOP STORIES and find the bitch yourself. Want me to hold your fucking hand the rest of your life? Break free Damone, there's a wealth of knowledge right at your fingertips.MikeDamone said:
Link?oregonblitzkrieg said:
In another thread, unless you were trolling.MikeDamone said:
Where did I ever suggest a stateless society?oregonblitzkrieg said:How exactly would your stateless utopia function in reality. No state, no military, no country. Putin and Xi would really like that.
-
It's really naive to think there wouldn't be. America is like Bama. Everyone wants to be them. Every football player wants to play for them. Even after Saban retires and they become a shitty team again, the residual after effects of their success will still lure many to Tuscaloosa despite the fact that they are no longer what they once were. Same with America. People will come even if there is no opportunity left because of the HYPE they've heard their whole lives, that America is the land of opportunity, the greatest nation on Earth. And because its better than the shithole they live in.MikeDamone said:
You create some nice strawmen to attack.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're the resident tome of economics history and scholarship. But I'm not sure you consider all of the possible outcomes if the philosophies you follow were into practice. For example, what level of social unrest would be caused by an open borders policy, and how would it be contained? If the people in a libertarian country voted in a communist government, what would happen then? It doesn't seem to have the answers to those kinds of questions. It doesn't seem capable of defending its own existence.MikeDamone said:
I’d recommend a refresheroregonblitzkrieg said:
I've read his shit but its been awhile. Everyone has the right to control their own body and life, sure, up to the point where it infringes on someone else's life or liberty.MikeDamone said:
You’re not familiar with Locke? Are you being serious about not knowing what self ownership is? This leads me to believe you also are not clear on property rights.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Who doesn't agree with property rights, except for commies and socialists. Define self ownership.MikeDamone said:
Do you agree with property rights and self ownership? Hondo doesn’t.oregonblitzkrieg said:
This is a Hondo level poast.MikeDamone said:
Because right or left, people love the state and fight to use it to their gain and disagree with property rights and self ownership. You certainly do.oregonblitzkrieg said:Libertarianism has its merits but it also has its limitations. As far as ever becoming a viable political/social system, it just doesn't pass the stress test.
What is the basis for the assumption that there would be social unrest? People only immigrante if there is opportunity. If there is little opportunity there is no immigration.
You're also not taking into consideration the unrest that would be caused by massive immigration from cultures that are not compatible with Western values, like those in the Middle East. We don't want more Islam, we want less Islam. We don't want more Mexicans, we want less Mexicans. Pole the cuntry and I think you would find 80% approval for less, not more immigration. -
@Swaye true??!?oregonblitzkrieg said:
It's really naive to think there wouldn't be. America is like Bama. Everyone wants to be them. Every football player wants to play for them. Even after Saban retires and they become a shitty team again, the residual after effects of their success will still lure many to Tuscaloosa despite the fact that they are no longer what they once were. Same with America. People will come even if there is no opportunity left because of the HYPE they've heard their whole lives, that America is the land of opportunity, the greatest nation on Earth. And because its better than the shithole they live in.MikeDamone said:
You create some nice strawmen to attack.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're the resident tome of economics history and scholarship. But I'm not sure you consider all of the possible outcomes if the philosophies you follow were into practice. For example, what level of social unrest would be caused by an open borders policy, and how would it be contained? If the people in a libertarian country voted in a communist government, what would happen then? It doesn't seem to have the answers to those kinds of questions. It doesn't seem capable of defending its own existence.MikeDamone said:
I’d recommend a refresheroregonblitzkrieg said:
I've read his shit but its been awhile. Everyone has the right to control their own body and life, sure, up to the point where it infringes on someone else's life or liberty.MikeDamone said:
You’re not familiar with Locke? Are you being serious about not knowing what self ownership is? This leads me to believe you also are not clear on property rights.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Who doesn't agree with property rights, except for commies and socialists. Define self ownership.MikeDamone said:
Do you agree with property rights and self ownership? Hondo doesn’t.oregonblitzkrieg said:
This is a Hondo level poast.MikeDamone said:
Because right or left, people love the state and fight to use it to their gain and disagree with property rights and self ownership. You certainly do.oregonblitzkrieg said:Libertarianism has its merits but it also has its limitations. As far as ever becoming a viable political/social system, it just doesn't pass the stress test.
What is the basis for the assumption that there would be social unrest? People only immigrante if there is opportunity. If there is little opportunity there is no immigration.
You're also not taking into consideration the unrest that would be caused by massive immigration from cultures that are not compatible with Western values, like those in the Middle East. We don't want more Islam, we want less Islam. We don't want more Mexicans, we want less Mexicans. Pole the cuntry and I think you would find 80% approval for less, not more immigration. -
I did some Google searching. And I want to reiterate how FS this comment is.salemcoog said:
We spend more than that. In 2013 we gave over 81 Bill to parents of anchor babies. I’m guessing that number is well over 100 Billion now. That’s the number that open border retards fail to acknowledge as they cry “but but illegals pay taxes and don’t get them back!!!!”2001400ex said:We don't deal in hypotheticals. That being said. For perspective. We spend about $60 billion a year in food stamps and just increased military spending by $80 billion.
They get em back alright, about five fold, once they start pumping out kids. -
No worries on replacing the labor supply. Even if Pappa gets run on a rail back to Sinaloa ,He’s spread his seed efficiently and prolifically these last 20 plus years. Plenty of next men up there. But theyll Be Citizens. Like on the books and shit. A return on the investment that the American taxpayer laid out to feed, house and clothe them if you will.CirrhosisDawg said:
True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.MikeDamone said:Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.
$25 billion US funded border wall?
Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?
Tariffs?
Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?
The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.” -
Yet strangely, you're on the record for supporting amnesty. Please to be explaining the logic there.salemcoog said:
No worries on replacing the labor supply. Even if Pappa gets run on a rail back to Sinaloa ,He’s spread his seed efficiently and prolifically these last 20 plus years. Plenty of next men up there. But theyll Be Citizens. Like on the books and shit. A return on the investment that the American taxpayer laid out to feed, house and clothe them if you will.CirrhosisDawg said:
True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.MikeDamone said:Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.
$25 billion US funded border wall?
Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?
Tariffs?
Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?
The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.” -
It appears that apag lent Damone the random political generator wheel for the weekMikeDamone said:
Slippery slope is your logical fallacy. Competing for wages on the open market benefits everyone. Anyone is able to compete in the labor market. Millennial socialists included.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Illegals displace American workers, drive down wages and with enough of them, will be the cause of widespread social chaos when millions are out of work, making it easy for extremist ideologies to make serious inroads in America. It's what opportunistic groups like the "Democratic Socialists of America" want. They admit as much on their website, they're basically waiting for an economic crisis to push their agenda further and gain new followers. We don't need illegals. Fuck them. We can put our own useless millennial socialists to work picking beans in the field. They can get a taste of what its like to really be a part of the proletariat. It's what they want. Everyone wins.MikeDamone said:
No, I just agree with the factual economics. Cheaper labor benefits everyone. Illegal is more beneficial than legal.oregonblitzkrieg said:
If that's your actual position, you're no different than Soros and the Cochsuckers. Open borders.MikeDamone said:
Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.CirrhosisDawg said:
True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.MikeDamone said:Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.
$25 billion US funded border wall?
Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?
Tariffs?
Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?
The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.”
It’s funny leftists want to drive down wages and conservatives want government to stymie the free market. It’s like it’s Opposite Day.
Hiring desperate people with fake Social security numbers at 55 cents on the dollar isn’t how the free market is supposed to work. We aren’t in 1930 anymore. -
I just want the shit to be over. I want the free market to operate as it should. If that takes putting poppa on the books, I’m all for that. Once you make illegals tax payers, then things even out a bit. In Salemcoogs plan, Amnesty has a triple edge sword. Along with all the new citizens, it comes with stricter entry criteria and fast track deportation for those that aren’t allowed. It also comes with yuge fines for companies that hire illegals that are actually enforced.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Yet strangely, you're on the record for supporting amnesty. Please to be explaining the logic there.salemcoog said:
No worries on replacing the labor supply. Even if Pappa gets run on a rail back to Sinaloa ,He’s spread his seed efficiently and prolifically these last 20 plus years. Plenty of next men up there. But theyll Be Citizens. Like on the books and shit. A return on the investment that the American taxpayer laid out to feed, house and clothe them if you will.CirrhosisDawg said:
True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.MikeDamone said:Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.
$25 billion US funded border wall?
Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?
Tariffs?
Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?
The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.”
Badliver dawg and others will come back with inflation and economic slowdown. I don’t buy it though. It would be a tide that would float many more boats than it would sink.
Millions of Americans have been hurt by cheap illegal labor. All for the benefit of a few thousand greedy business owners. And Liberal retards and now for some reason Damone,think that is how our free market is supposed to work.
It isn’t.
If we do something now, we can make a lot more people better off.
If we put that wall money towards making this happen, it would be a much better investment imo.
