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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    SarkFanSixtyNine said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.

    We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?

    Pete is deliberately choosing not to sell what he should obviously be selling.
    i think he's arrogant enough to actually believe he can steal a national title because one time at boise he beat a pretty good team by 1 point on miracle trick plays in overtime in a game the other team didnt give a shit about.
    he also seems to be a genuinely good person so unlike scumbag football fans he prioritizes gay shit over giving himself the best odds of winning.
    Yes.

    Culturally SEA is very similar to the Midwest and very distant from the SE. Also, very distant from California.

    These are good maps representing this...



    I've always thought of UW as pretty similar to midwestern programs like Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, etc...

    We have a huge, high quality public university and we are in a town that—unlike the rest of the WC—actually really cares about football (tuff liberals like in the midwest).

    People get so hung up on what's going on 'RIGHT NOW' - but overall, our brand should be in a similar space to Ohio State, Michigan, Iowa and Wisconsin. We are sort of a combo of those things.
    This is my preferred map


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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,149 Standard Supporter
    Shouldn't Yakima also be El Norte blue?
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
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    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    Shouldn't Yakima also be El Norte blue?

    And all of central valley Ca.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    Shouldn't Yakima also be El Norte blue?

    And all of central valley Ca.
    This belongs in the Tug, but for any one who's interested.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2013/11/08/which-of-the-11-american-nations-do-you-live-in/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8d9a73d42ac3

    Central Valley is trending El Norte obviously but it's rooted in Far West. Many of the Central VA counties in 2016 still went Red.

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  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088
    Overthinking the issue. Win games. That's the ultimate brand. The best kids will come because they want to win. Those who don't aren't winners. Pete is well on his way to establishing the "win" brand. It's also by far the easiest sell and the one that most matches his no bullshit recruiting philosophy.
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  • SarkFanSixtyNine
    SarkFanSixtyNine Member Posts: 373
    As a case study, let's look at James Franklin of pedo state when he was at Vandy. He saw recruiting results immediately by promoting Nashville city life to fast-track kids. The results on the field quickly followed and he started miraculously winning multiple games in the SEC. He won 8 games two years in a row which hadn't been done since the 1920s. Unfortunately he bailed as soon as the players started getting arrested for gang rapes so we didn't get to see how successful this model could be at a non-traditional power.

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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    SarkFanSixtyNine said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.

    We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?

    Pete is deliberately choosing not to sell what he should obviously be selling.
    i think he's arrogant enough to actually believe he can steal a national title because one time at boise he beat a pretty good team by 1 point on miracle trick plays in overtime in a game the other team didnt give a shit about.
    he also seems to be a genuinely good person so unlike scumbag football fans he prioritizes gay shit over giving himself the best odds of winning.
    Yes.

    Culturally SEA is very similar to the Midwest and very distant from the SE. Also, very distant from California.

    These are good maps representing this...



    I've always thought of UW as pretty similar to midwestern programs like Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, etc...

    We have a huge, high quality public university and we are in a town that—unlike the rest of the WC—actually really cares about football (tuff liberals like in the midwest).

    People get so hung up on what's going on 'RIGHT NOW' - but overall, our brand should be in a similar space to Ohio State, Michigan, Iowa and Wisconsin. We are sort of a combo of those things.
    In a much better city in a much more desirable state.
    Jesus, yes. Ever been to Ohio? FFS.
    I went back to Ohio once. We lost bigly because my program was gone. 12-0 my ass.
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  • SarkFanSixtyNine
    SarkFanSixtyNine Member Posts: 373
    whuggy said:

    Overthinking the issue. Win games. That's the ultimate brand. The best kids will come because they want to win. Those who don't aren't winners. Pete is well on his way to establishing the "win" brand. It's also by far the easiest sell and the one that most matches his no bullshit recruiting philosophy.

    Yeah good point look at the type of class Pete managed to land at Boise State of all places after he went 14-0, won the fiesta bowl, and finished 4th in the polls:
    https://247sports.com/college/boise-state/Season/2010-Football/Commits
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    edited June 2018
    whuggy said:

    Overthinking the issue. Win games. That's the ultimate brand. The best kids will come because they want to win. Those who don't aren't winners. Pete is well on his way to establishing the "win" brand. It's also by far the easiest sell and the one that most matches his no bullshit recruiting philosophy.

    Add this as well:


    Sorry. I had to post it for the millionth time on these threads.
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    YellowSnow said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    SarkFanSixtyNine said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.

    We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?

    Pete is deliberately choosing not to sell what he should obviously be selling.
    i think he's arrogant enough to actually believe he can steal a national title because one time at boise he beat a pretty good team by 1 point on miracle trick plays in overtime in a game the other team didnt give a shit about.
    he also seems to be a genuinely good person so unlike scumbag football fans he prioritizes gay shit over giving himself the best odds of winning.
    Yes.

    Culturally SEA is very similar to the Midwest and very distant from the SE. Also, very distant from California.

    These are good maps representing this...



    I've always thought of UW as pretty similar to midwestern programs like Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, etc...

    We have a huge, high quality public university and we are in a town that—unlike the rest of the WC—actually really cares about football (tuff liberals like in the midwest).

    People get so hung up on what's going on 'RIGHT NOW' - but overall, our brand should be in a similar space to Ohio State, Michigan, Iowa and Wisconsin. We are sort of a combo of those things.
    This is my preferred map


    It’s an okay map for voting, but culturally and linguistically it’s not that good—primarily because it doesn’t reflect migration patterns.
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  • HUSKYFANATIC
    HUSKYFANATIC Member Posts: 1,651
    edited June 2018
    Aren’t we supposed to poast recrootin shit on this board? Or is dis a gawd dam geography board?
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  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088
    SarkFanSixtyNine said:

    whuggy said:

    Overthinking the issue. Win games. That's the ultimate brand. The best kids will come because they want to win. Those who don't aren't winners. Pete is well on his way to establishing the "win" brand. It's also by far the easiest sell and the one that most matches his no bullshit recruiting philosophy.

    Yeah good point look at the type of class Pete managed to land at Boise State of all places after he went 14-0, won the fiesta bowl, and finished 4th in the polls:
    https://247sports.com/college/boise-state/Season/2010-Football/Commits
    SarkFanSixtyNine said:

    whuggy said:

    Overthinking the issue. Win games. That's the ultimate brand. The best kids will come because they want to win. Those who don't aren't winners. Pete is well on his way to establishing the "win" brand. It's also by far the easiest sell and the one that most matches his no bullshit recruiting philosophy.

    Yeah good point look at the type of class Pete managed to land at Boise State of all places after he went 14-0, won the fiesta bowl, and finished 4th in the polls:
    https://247sports.com/college/boise-state/Season/2010-Football/Commits
    Well if you're really having trouble understanding the difference between winning at Boise Trucking School and winning at UW then there's not much I can do to help you. The recruiting pitch is really so simple now. The staff just sells that they are a double digit wins school and the 5 stars move them up to 12-13 with numerous trips to the playoffs. This shit is really not that hard.
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  • FremontTroll
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    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.

    We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?

    Georgia Tech and Vandy. Cal should count as Berkeley is right there. Is SLC urban?

    Never been to Raleigh-Durham other than the airport but there are 2 million people there. Not sure if it feels like a city.
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    FremontTroll said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.

    We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?

    Georgia Tech and Vandy. Cal should count as Berkeley is right there. Is SLC urban?

    Never been to Raleigh-Durham other than the airport but there are 2 million people there. Not sure if it feels like a city.
    TCU
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited June 2018
    FremontTroll said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.

    We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?

    Georgia Tech and Vandy. Cal should count as Berkeley is right there. Is SLC urban?

    Never been to Raleigh-Durham other than the airport but there are 2 million people there. Not sure if it feels like a city.
    If we’re counting tOSU and Tejas then OU probably counts too. OKCsucks but it’s not significantly smaller than Columbus or Austin.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Isn’t ASU basically in Phoenix? Never been there, could be wrong.

    Obviously our Big Teb brethren Minnesota (lol).
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  • FremontTroll
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    dnc said:

    FremontTroll said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.

    We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?

    Georgia Tech and Vandy. Cal should count as Berkeley is right there. Is SLC urban?

    Never been to Raleigh-Durham other than the airport but there are 2 million people there. Not sure if it feels like a city.
    If we’re counting tOSU and Tejas then OU probably counts too. OKCsucks but it’s not significantly smaller than Columbus or Austin.
    If we are counting schools that are in suburbs or close to major cities then we need to count Northwestern, Colorado, Rutgers, Maryland, Stanford, ASU...probably others.
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  • RaceBannon
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    FremontTroll said:

    dnc said:

    FremontTroll said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.

    We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?

    Georgia Tech and Vandy. Cal should count as Berkeley is right there. Is SLC urban?

    Never been to Raleigh-Durham other than the airport but there are 2 million people there. Not sure if it feels like a city.
    If we’re counting tOSU and Tejas then OU probably counts too. OKCsucks but it’s not significantly smaller than Columbus or Austin.
    If we are counting schools that are in suburbs or close to major cities then we need to count Northwestern, Colorado, Rutgers, Maryland, Stanford, ASU...probably others.
    The B1G thought Rutgers and Maryland would get big tv markets
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  • SweatpantsGeneral
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    Cockfuckerhead! I thought I would wake up from my concussion instigated semi-coma and Doogs would be extinct, Kim would have emigrated to Faghanistan, and Jen Cohen lost 50 lbs. so we could have make up sex. Thanks for fucking it up as usual @Dennis_DeYoung
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  • SweatpantsGeneral
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    bananasnblondes said:

    This thread has made my dick so soft that it has changed states from a solid to a liquid. 3 more pages of this shit and it will be a gas

    Threads like this call for sublimation. Google it most of you fuckers.
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  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    wtf who calls pop 'coke'

    savages
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Gladstone said:

    wtf who calls pop 'coke'

    savages

    The Midwest
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  • HUSKYFANATIC
    HUSKYFANATIC Member Posts: 1,651
    Aren’t we supposed to poast recrootin shit on this board? Or is his a gawd dam geography board?
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  • SarkFanSixtyNine
    SarkFanSixtyNine Member Posts: 373
    whuggy said:

    SarkFanSixtyNine said:

    whuggy said:

    Overthinking the issue. Win games. That's the ultimate brand. The best kids will come because they want to win. Those who don't aren't winners. Pete is well on his way to establishing the "win" brand. It's also by far the easiest sell and the one that most matches his no bullshit recruiting philosophy.

    Yeah good point look at the type of class Pete managed to land at Boise State of all places after he went 14-0, won the fiesta bowl, and finished 4th in the polls:
    https://247sports.com/college/boise-state/Season/2010-Football/Commits
    SarkFanSixtyNine said:

    whuggy said:

    Overthinking the issue. Win games. That's the ultimate brand. The best kids will come because they want to win. Those who don't aren't winners. Pete is well on his way to establishing the "win" brand. It's also by far the easiest sell and the one that most matches his no bullshit recruiting philosophy.

    Yeah good point look at the type of class Pete managed to land at Boise State of all places after he went 14-0, won the fiesta bowl, and finished 4th in the polls:
    https://247sports.com/college/boise-state/Season/2010-Football/Commits
    Well if you're really having trouble understanding the difference between winning at Boise Trucking School and winning at UW then there's not much I can do to help you. The recruiting pitch is really so simple now. The staff just sells that they are a double digit wins school and the 5 stars move them up to 12-13 with numerous trips to the playoffs. This shit is really not that hard.
    Meh. https://247sports.com/college/texas/Season/2018-Football/Commits
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  • FremontTroll
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    WeakarmCobra said:

    Gladstone said:

    wtf who calls pop 'coke'

    savages

    The Midwest
    Noooooo we are the original poppers in the Midwest.

    In the souf you order a Coke and the waitress asks what kind.
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  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    RaceBannon said:

    FremontTroll said:

    dnc said:

    FremontTroll said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.

    We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?

    Georgia Tech and Vandy. Cal should count as Berkeley is right there. Is SLC urban?

    Never been to Raleigh-Durham other than the airport but there are 2 million people there. Not sure if it feels like a city.
    If we’re counting tOSU and Tejas then OU probably counts too. OKCsucks but it’s not significantly smaller than Columbus or Austin.
    If we are counting schools that are in suburbs or close to major cities then we need to count Northwestern, Colorado, Rutgers, Maryland, Stanford, ASU...probably others.
    The B1G thought Rutgers and Maryland would get big tv markets
    They did. The Big Ten network is on a basic tier in NYC and D.C. and they get $1 per subscriber in market- which now includes said cities.

    We will see how it shakes out woth cable quickly dying now though. Comcast stopped carrying the Big Ten network out of market.
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  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    WeakarmCobra said:

    Gladstone said:

    wtf who calls pop 'coke'

    savages

    The Midwest



    are you sure
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