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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,762 Founders Club

    The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.

    We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?

    Pete is deliberately choosing not to sell what he should obviously be selling.
    i think he's arrogant enough to actually believe he can steal a national title because one time at boise he beat a pretty good team by 1 point on miracle trick plays in overtime in a game the other team didnt give a shit about.
    he also seems to be a genuinely good person so unlike scumbag football fans he prioritizes gay shit over giving himself the best odds of winning.
    Yes.

    Culturally SEA is very similar to the Midwest and very distant from the SE. Also, very distant from California.

    These are good maps representing this...



    I've always thought of UW as pretty similar to midwestern programs like Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, etc...

    We have a huge, high quality public university and we are in a town that—unlike the rest of the WC—actually really cares about football (tuff liberals like in the midwest).

    People get so hung up on what's going on 'RIGHT NOW' - but overall, our brand should be in a similar space to Ohio State, Michigan, Iowa and Wisconsin. We are sort of a combo of those things.
    This is my preferred map


  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,801 Standard Supporter
    Shouldn't Yakima also be El Norte blue?
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,589 Founders Club

    Shouldn't Yakima also be El Norte blue?

    And all of central valley Ca.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,762 Founders Club

    Shouldn't Yakima also be El Norte blue?

    And all of central valley Ca.
    This belongs in the Tug, but for any one who's interested.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2013/11/08/which-of-the-11-american-nations-do-you-live-in/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8d9a73d42ac3

    Central Valley is trending El Norte obviously but it's rooted in Far West. Many of the Central VA counties in 2016 still went Red.

  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088
    Overthinking the issue. Win games. That's the ultimate brand. The best kids will come because they want to win. Those who don't aren't winners. Pete is well on his way to establishing the "win" brand. It's also by far the easiest sell and the one that most matches his no bullshit recruiting philosophy.
  • SarkFanSixtyNine
    SarkFanSixtyNine Member Posts: 373
    As a case study, let's look at James Franklin of pedo state when he was at Vandy. He saw recruiting results immediately by promoting Nashville city life to fast-track kids. The results on the field quickly followed and he started miraculously winning multiple games in the SEC. He won 8 games two years in a row which hadn't been done since the 1920s. Unfortunately he bailed as soon as the players started getting arrested for gang rapes so we didn't get to see how successful this model could be at a non-traditional power.

  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,762 Founders Club

    The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.

    We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?

    Pete is deliberately choosing not to sell what he should obviously be selling.
    i think he's arrogant enough to actually believe he can steal a national title because one time at boise he beat a pretty good team by 1 point on miracle trick plays in overtime in a game the other team didnt give a shit about.
    he also seems to be a genuinely good person so unlike scumbag football fans he prioritizes gay shit over giving himself the best odds of winning.
    Yes.

    Culturally SEA is very similar to the Midwest and very distant from the SE. Also, very distant from California.

    These are good maps representing this...



    I've always thought of UW as pretty similar to midwestern programs like Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, etc...

    We have a huge, high quality public university and we are in a town that—unlike the rest of the WC—actually really cares about football (tuff liberals like in the midwest).

    People get so hung up on what's going on 'RIGHT NOW' - but overall, our brand should be in a similar space to Ohio State, Michigan, Iowa and Wisconsin. We are sort of a combo of those things.
    In a much better city in a much more desirable state.
    Jesus, yes. Ever been to Ohio? FFS.
    I went back to Ohio once. We lost bigly because my program was gone. 12-0 my ass.
  • SarkFanSixtyNine
    SarkFanSixtyNine Member Posts: 373
    whuggy said:

    Overthinking the issue. Win games. That's the ultimate brand. The best kids will come because they want to win. Those who don't aren't winners. Pete is well on his way to establishing the "win" brand. It's also by far the easiest sell and the one that most matches his no bullshit recruiting philosophy.

    Yeah good point look at the type of class Pete managed to land at Boise State of all places after he went 14-0, won the fiesta bowl, and finished 4th in the polls:
    https://247sports.com/college/boise-state/Season/2010-Football/Commits
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited June 2018
    whuggy said:

    Overthinking the issue. Win games. That's the ultimate brand. The best kids will come because they want to win. Those who don't aren't winners. Pete is well on his way to establishing the "win" brand. It's also by far the easiest sell and the one that most matches his no bullshit recruiting philosophy.

    Add this as well:


    Sorry. I had to post it for the millionth time on these threads.