WE NEED TO REALIZE THIS IS AN UPHILL BATTLE!
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Utah, Oregon State and WSU already beat us to that. But it is currently our positioning.YellowSnow said:
So now we are the only MWC team in the PAC? Fucking fuck.Dennis_DeYoung said:We were the only Big 10 team in the PAC. That was our branding.
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Well, we used kind of the SEC of the Pac in the 90's when we led attendance in the Pac by 20,000 per game. But still, we are a top flight research university so that's not us. Nope, we're the Michigan of the Pac to USC being tOSU (except we should be .500% at USC at worst). We need to brand as the clear #2 program west of Texas and that's just how it is. Great academis, but we give great deal about winning football games. 70,000 people don't show up to watch heart surgery at the med school as Lude used to say.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Utah, Oregon State and WSU already beat us to that. But it is currently our positioning.YellowSnow said:
So now we are the only MWC team in the PAC? Fucking fuck.Dennis_DeYoung said:We were the only Big 10 team in the PAC. That was our branding.
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wisconsin is the brand pete is shooting for
pigmentally challenged hard working boring grinders that beat their bad conference opponents but nobody nationally will ever care about them because their program is bland and not competitive against the big boys
everyone is very polite and encouraging and accidentally condescending to these programs but theres just no excitement. the "omg youre such a nice guy who will make another girl so happy some day but no not me and uhhh no not any one i know either lol" programs of college football. and this is exactly where pete wants to be. sickening.
i dont think clemson works because it was always "cool" even when they sucked. look at cj spiller picking them out of florida in 2006 despite them sucking for over a decade.
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The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.
We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else? -
And this is where we landed 20 years later:Dennis_DeYoung said:We were the only Big 10 team in the PAC. That was our branding.
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The way I see it, it's a bit of a Seinfeld thing with CP and the branding of football. He hates labels and being labeled. It's a football team about nothing!
He hates when people bring up his history of trickery and deception -- primarily at BSU.
He claims that stats are for losers and won't embrace them.
He claims he doesn't know what a star is when it comes to recruiting.
He claims his program is not about football, it's about life.
He is neither run first nor pass first.
Good or bad, that is our branding with CP. Nothing in particular other than the OKG thing.
If we're talking about football marketing, that is all going to change when Adidas comes aboard. Let's hope we return to tradition. With continued winning at Montlake, and the Seahwaks on the decline, the hope is the Dwags will return to Seattle prominence and the stadium will be full and rocking every Saturday like days of yore. This then will become our brand over tim:
Year in-year out-winners;
Competing for titles;
Traditional purple and gold;
Best home field in the Pac -- sold out and rowdy.
SEC style school out west if you will. I'd take those 4 bullet points as our? brand.
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Pete is deliberately choosing not to sell what he should obviously be selling.BleachedAnusDawg said:The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.
We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?
i think he's arrogant enough to actually believe he can steal a national title because one time at boise he beat a pretty good team by 1 point on miracle trick plays in overtime in a game the other team didnt give a shit about.
he also seems to be a genuinely good person so unlike scumbag football fans he prioritizes gay shit over giving himself the best odds of winning. -
Yes.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
Pete is deliberately choosing not to sell what he should obviously be selling.BleachedAnusDawg said:The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.
We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?
i think he's arrogant enough to actually believe he can steal a national title because one time at boise he beat a pretty good team by 1 point on miracle trick plays in overtime in a game the other team didnt give a shit about.
he also seems to be a genuinely good person so unlike scumbag football fans he prioritizes gay shit over giving himself the best odds of winning.
Culturally SEA is very similar to the Midwest and very distant from the SE. Also, very distant from California.
These are good maps representing this...
I've always thought of UW as pretty similar to midwestern programs like Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, etc...
We have a huge, high quality public university and we are in a town that—unlike the rest of the WC—actually really cares about football (tuff liberals like in the midwest).
People get so hung up on what's going on 'RIGHT NOW' - but overall, our brand should be in a similar space to Ohio State, Michigan, Iowa and Wisconsin. We are sort of a combo of those things. -
Pete's inner dialog:
Head coach Peterman, left, talks with head coach Saban, right, before 2016 playoff game -
In a much better city in a much more desirable state.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Yes.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
Pete is deliberately choosing not to sell what he should obviously be selling.BleachedAnusDawg said:The Wisconsin comparison is most relevant right now as far as team culture that Petersen seems to expound, but I think we get a lot more elite athletes than they do.
We? should be pushing the "big city" narrative in recruiting. Coaches should post more likes about random gang violence, less about the fucking mountains and kayaking. Make the fast strategy kids from SoCal feel at home. How many major programs are located in the middle of a burgeoning urban environment? USC/UCLA, tOSU, Texas, Minnesota, and who else?
i think he's arrogant enough to actually believe he can steal a national title because one time at boise he beat a pretty good team by 1 point on miracle trick plays in overtime in a game the other team didnt give a shit about.
he also seems to be a genuinely good person so unlike scumbag football fans he prioritizes gay shit over giving himself the best odds of winning.
Culturally SEA is very similar to the Midwest and very distant from the SE. Also, very distant from California.
These are good maps representing this...
I've always thought of UW as pretty similar to midwestern programs like Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, etc...
We have a huge, high quality public university and we are in a town that—unlike the rest of the WC—actually really cares about football (tuff liberals like in the midwest).
People get so hung up on what's going on 'RIGHT NOW' - but overall, our brand should be in a similar space to Ohio State, Michigan, Iowa and Wisconsin. We are sort of a combo of those things.
