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Man this threat of violence to deter violence is some real knuckle dragging shit. Fece slingers thinking that this is a viable long term solution to creating a prosperous society. Totally missing the fact that people are very dynamic, influenced by how they live their lives and the environment they live in, playing into how they behave.
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Let me be clear while I interrupt your panic attack Dancing Nancy: if you think arming teachers is a good idea you a just plain fucking stupid. Period. Let's just end the thread right here because there is nothing you can say to convince me otherwise, nor I to you (even though I gave you a reason it's a bad idea and an alternative to said bad idea, which you did not address, and instead just continued your rant instead).TurdBuffer said:I hate the faggots who can't talk about hardening the target and reducing the threat at the same time. Stupid intransigent fucks are the primary reason this shit still happens. Give something to get something, cunts. Or watch a weekly replay of what we saw last week.
Good luck. My kids are in college now - the kind that are secretly protected by armed deep state Obama loyalist operatives. So it's not really quite my problem; I'll leave it to you and your genius friends sleddy and doogs to straighten it out. You idiots have my proxy. -
Doogie reasoning: in one instance a few armed cops failed to discharge their duty correctly.doogie said:(CNN)When Coral Springs police officers arrived at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, on February 14 in the midst of the school shooting crisis, many officers were surprised to find not only that Broward County Sheriff's Deputy Scot Peterson, the armed school resource officer, had not entered the building, but that three other Broward County Sheriff's deputies were also outside the school and had not entered, Coral Springs sources tell CNN. The deputies had their pistols drawn and were behind their vehicles, the sources said, and not one of them had gone into the school.
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Solution: forget the police and arm 100s of thousands of 23 to 47 year old women and cross your fingers.
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Creep, if you ever have kids, it will be your responsibility to keep them safe. When you transfer that responsibility to another custodian (School, Neighbor, Meth Chef/ Safe heroin injection class etc.,) only you must be comfortable with the situation.
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It's almost like you didn't read my posts, or did but can't think of a cogent response. Almost.doogie said:Creep, if you ever have kids, it will be your responsibility to keep them safe. When you transfer that responsibility to another custodian (School, Neighbor, Meth Chef/ Safe heroin injection class etc.,) only you must be comfortable with the situation.
Again, my kids are in college. They're protected by the deep state. You and turd can figure this out. No longer my monkey or circus. -
Evidently the deep state failed at VT.creepycoug said:
It's almost like you didn't read my posts, or did but can't think of a cogent response. Almost.doogie said:Creep, if you ever have kids, it will be your responsibility to keep them safe. When you transfer that responsibility to another custodian (School, Neighbor, Meth Chef/ Safe heroin injection class etc.,) only you must be comfortable with the situation.
Again, my kids are in college. They're protected by the deep state. You and turd can figure this out. No longer my monkey or circus. -
Not selective or liberal enuff. My kids are good.Sledog said:
Evidently the deep state failed at VT.creepycoug said:
It's almost like you didn't read my posts, or did but can't think of a cogent response. Almost.doogie said:Creep, if you ever have kids, it will be your responsibility to keep them safe. When you transfer that responsibility to another custodian (School, Neighbor, Meth Chef/ Safe heroin injection class etc.,) only you must be comfortable with the situation.
Again, my kids are in college. They're protected by the deep state. You and turd can figure this out. No longer my monkey or circus.
Plus, colleges are targeted at a much lower rate. The odds are ever in my favor. -
Some guys on here are obviously repping that pseudo machoism real hard on here. You know that fabricated surface personality of having the answers that is devoid of any real character. You know the character you build from making yourself do things that make you uncomfortable and feel vulnerable because you fail, than you have to pick yourself up and try again. Instead when they feel that uncomfortable feeling they just recoil into their safety zone that brings them back to being complacent and comfortable. They usually only have shit answers like fight fire with fire.
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This insight will make several of our friends uncomfortable. I can see sled clutching his rifle and crying like a little girl as he comes to the realization that creep is right: he's just a stupid and full of shit guy with a gun.Gwad said:Some guys on here are obviously repping that pseudo machoism real hard on here. You know that fabricated surface personality of having the answers that is devoid of any real character. You know the character you build from making yourself do things that make you uncomfortable and feel vulnerable because you fail, than you have to pick yourself up and try again. Instead when they feel that uncomfortable feeling they just recoil into their safety zone that brings them back to being complacent and comfortable. They usually only have shit answers like fight fire with fire.
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Pretty sure taking away rental car discounts solved the problem
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It's actually the reverse. Those of us who have fought fire with fire have been there and done that and know it can be done. The armchair pundits sit and bleat "be a sheep and you'll be safe". That never works in a world of wolves and the sheep dog cannot be everywhere all the time.Gwad said:Some guys on here are obviously repping that pseudo machoism real hard on here. You know that fabricated surface personality of having the answers that is devoid of any real character. You know the character you build from making yourself do things that make you uncomfortable and feel vulnerable because you fail, than you have to pick yourself up and try again. Instead when they feel that uncomfortable feeling they just recoil into their safety zone that brings them back to being complacent and comfortable. They usually only have shit answers like fight fire with fire.
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I am arguing for arming THOSE people to protect schools; and for NOT arming 24 year old girls who graduated from Central Washington University with a teaching certificate because, you know, she didnt really want a career in high finance anyway.Sledog said:
It's actually the reverse. Those of us who have fought fire with fire have been there and done that and know it can be done. The armchair pundits sit and bleat "be a sheep and you'll be safe". That never works in a world of wolves and the sheep dog cannot be everywhere all the time.Gwad said:Some guys on here are obviously repping that pseudo machoism real hard on here. You know that fabricated surface personality of having the answers that is devoid of any real character. You know the character you build from making yourself do things that make you uncomfortable and feel vulnerable because you fail, than you have to pick yourself up and try again. Instead when they feel that uncomfortable feeling they just recoil into their safety zone that brings them back to being complacent and comfortable. They usually only have shit answers like fight fire with fire.
This is just one of those defining issues: you fall on the side of arming teachers and you are defined as a dumb fuck.
Trained armed guards. Guns are dangerous things. Give them to those trained to handle them. Good luck training all the teachers.
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Creep, it’s almost like you don’t read my posts.creepycoug said:
It's almost like you didn't read my posts, or did but can't think of a cogent response. Almost.doogie said:Creep, if you ever have kids, it will be your responsibility to keep them safe. When you transfer that responsibility to another custodian (School, Neighbor, Meth Chef/ Safe heroin injection class etc.,) only you must be comfortable with the situation.
Again, my kids are in college. They're protected by the deep state. You and turd can figure this out. No longer my monkey or circus.
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Good and happy to stand corrected.doogie said:
Creep, it’s almost like you don’t read my posts.creepycoug said:
It's almost like you didn't read my posts, or did but can't think of a cogent response. Almost.doogie said:Creep, if you ever have kids, it will be your responsibility to keep them safe. When you transfer that responsibility to another custodian (School, Neighbor, Meth Chef/ Safe heroin injection class etc.,) only you must be comfortable with the situation.
Again, my kids are in college. They're protected by the deep state. You and turd can figure this out. No longer my monkey or circus.
The above isn’t my solution. Not close.
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No. I don't think The arrangement with which he is actually comfortable is the same arrangement you're thinking about.doogie said:Trump seems comfortable with the arrangement. His issue. Make sense?
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No one is calling for his. Your extreme hyperventilation is noted, though.creepycoug said:
I am arguing for arming THOSE people to protect schools; and for NOT arming 24 year old girls who graduated from Central Washington University with a teaching certificate because, you know, she didnt really want a career in high finance anyway.Sledog said:
It's actually the reverse. Those of us who have fought fire with fire have been there and done that and know it can be done. The armchair pundits sit and bleat "be a sheep and you'll be safe". That never works in a world of wolves and the sheep dog cannot be everywhere all the time.Gwad said:Some guys on here are obviously repping that pseudo machoism real hard on here. You know that fabricated surface personality of having the answers that is devoid of any real character. You know the character you build from making yourself do things that make you uncomfortable and feel vulnerable because you fail, than you have to pick yourself up and try again. Instead when they feel that uncomfortable feeling they just recoil into their safety zone that brings them back to being complacent and comfortable. They usually only have shit answers like fight fire with fire.
This is just one of those defining issues: you fall on the side of arming teachers and you are defined as a dumb fuck.
Trained armed guards. Guns are dangerous things. Give them to those trained to handle them. Good luck training all the teachers.
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Okie liquor store owners disagree. Look at those steely eyed experienced gunfighters save their own lives!creepycoug said:
We don't give Melania a gun to proteck the Prez. We give them to the SS. Make sense?doogie said:We protect our President.....with guns.
We protect our Congress.... with guns.
We protect our athletes.... with guns.
We protect our Governors... with guns.
We protect our Celebrities....with guns.
We protect the elites and THEIR children......with guns.
We protect our Banks....... with guns.
We protect our Courts...... with guns.
We protect our airports....with guns.
We protect our hospitals..with guns.
We protect OUR children.... with a sign.
"This is a gun free zone"
http://okcfox.com/news/local/graphic-video-liquor-store-clerks-shoot-armed-robbery-suspect-fight-over-gun
Well several poasters here are; and I'm here. Make sense? Good.doogie said:
No one is calling for his. Your extreme hyperventilation is noted, though.creepycoug said:
I am arguing for arming THOSE people to protect schools; and for NOT arming 24 year old girls who graduated from Central Washington University with a teaching certificate because, you know, she didnt really want a career in high finance anyway.Sledog said:
It's actually the reverse. Those of us who have fought fire with fire have been there and done that and know it can be done. The armchair pundits sit and bleat "be a sheep and you'll be safe". That never works in a world of wolves and the sheep dog cannot be everywhere all the time.Gwad said:Some guys on here are obviously repping that pseudo machoism real hard on here. You know that fabricated surface personality of having the answers that is devoid of any real character. You know the character you build from making yourself do things that make you uncomfortable and feel vulnerable because you fail, than you have to pick yourself up and try again. Instead when they feel that uncomfortable feeling they just recoil into their safety zone that brings them back to being complacent and comfortable. They usually only have shit answers like fight fire with fire.
This is just one of those defining issues: you fall on the side of arming teachers and you are defined as a dumb fuck.
Trained armed guards. Guns are dangerous things. Give them to those trained to handle them. Good luck training all the teachers.
What could go wrong?
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This is really fucking cute until someone has a semi-auto long rifle with high capacity magazines and you have a 9mm with a 4" barrel.Sledog said:
You have one job in a school shooting scenario. Officers are to bypass all the wounded, dying, screaming kids and move as quickly as possible to locate and shoot the bad guy. It's that simple.insinceredawg said:The good guy with a gun.
So a trained cop is too scared to fight back but we expect teachers to be able to stop a mass shooter?
This is what happens when you lower standards. These people need to be weeded out during training but that's not happening. It's not happening because they simply need the bodies. So few of todays younger people can pass a police background check or psych test as well as the polygraph. Most departments are understaffed. Corners are being cut.
That $50k a year (I'm being generous) isn't enough to send me or anyone with a brain into that scenario with no backup.
The guy isn't a pussy or a coward. He didn't want to die. 99% of pussies that talk hard do the same thing when shit goes down. A title and a small salary doesn't make you Die Hard. -
Apparently Gwad missed the entire Cold War era.Gwad said:Man this threat of violence to deter violence is some real knuckle dragging shit. Fece slingers thinking that this is a viable long term solution to creating a prosperous society. Totally missing the fact that people are very dynamic, influenced by how they live their lives and the environment they live in, playing into how they behave.
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Every irony meter everywherecreepycoug said:
It's almost like you didn't read my posts, or did but can't think of a cogent response. Almost.doogie said:Creep, if you ever have kids, it will be your responsibility to keep them safe. When you transfer that responsibility to another custodian (School, Neighbor, Meth Chef/ Safe heroin injection class etc.,) only you must be comfortable with the situation.
Again, my kids are in college. They're protected by the deep state. You and turd can figure this out. No longer my monkey or circus.
Kewg, if you actually had any reading comprehension skills at all, you'd realize that both you and SalemDufus are arguing in earnest against a position I never took and against your own strawman you can't stop jerking off to.
Let me be abundantly clear for your remedial WSU asses:
1. I propose that authorized, capable and arms-trained teachers, such as former police, ex-military, or demonstrated & qualified in response training situations be given the option of having arms available to them at school to protect themselves and mostly others in the event of an active shooter situation.
2. You and your Salem-resident butt-buddy have now demonstrated at length over the last several pages with your "we shouldn't arm fragile 22 year old girls with guns" bullshit, that you are both remedial as fuck, lack reading comprehension skills, and can't stop jerking each other off over shit I never wrote. Go back and actually read my posts - assuming you can.
3. CC and Salem are just fucking dumb. As dumb as that bitch who called the cops about a "Confederate Flag" in her neighborhood that was actually the Norwegian Flag. That is exactly what you two fucks are doing in this thread, over and over. -
So why protect them at all is your answer? The FBI didn't protect those kids and at least 4 local law enforcement stood by watching and listening.Mosster47 said:
This is really fucking cute until someone has a semi-auto long rifle with high capacity magazines and you have a 9mm with a 4" barrel.Sledog said:
You have one job in a school shooting scenario. Officers are to bypass all the wounded, dying, screaming kids and move as quickly as possible to locate and shoot the bad guy. It's that simple.insinceredawg said:The good guy with a gun.
So a trained cop is too scared to fight back but we expect teachers to be able to stop a mass shooter?
This is what happens when you lower standards. These people need to be weeded out during training but that's not happening. It's not happening because they simply need the bodies. So few of todays younger people can pass a police background check or psych test as well as the polygraph. Most departments are understaffed. Corners are being cut.
That $50k a year (I'm being generous) isn't enough to send me or anyone with a brain into that scenario with no backup.
The guy isn't a pussy or a coward. He didn't want to die. 99% of pussies that talk hard do the same thing when shit goes down. A title and a small salary doesn't make you Die Hard.
Armed guards fall lower on the scale. That's what many proffer.
The weapon is fairly inconsequential. A 4" 9mm will certainly get the job done. Just engaging the bad guy changes the entire dynamic of the situation. These people choose schools so they don't face danger themselves. After all it's a gun free zone. They have given up after being confronted in the past. Getting shot at might be even more convincing.
Sure beats hiding behind some desks and books hoping not to be the next batch offed at the bad guys leisure.
You somehow equate salary to bravery. Our soldiers fight for less than that and the responding deputies probably made less than that. It has nothing to do with money and everything to do with saving lives. Everyday ordinary people often to unbelievable things when in danger and display phenomenal courage such situations.
Telling about you your thoughts are.....
In the case of the officers you have sworn to do these very things. To run toward the gunfire. To help those in danger. It's a dangerous fucking job and they should damn well know that when they sign up. I would rather die trying than to have to live the rest of my life with hat kind of shame.
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Solving hypotheticals and letting the slaughter continue is genius logic.Gwad said:
So what happens when people that want to hurt start using more covert means?doogie said:We protect our President.....with guns.
We protect our Congress.... with guns.
We protect our athletes.... with guns.
We protect our Governors... with guns.
We protect our Celebrities....with guns.
We protect the elites and THEIR children......with guns.
We protect our Banks....... with guns.
We protect our Courts...... with guns.
We protect our airports....with guns.
We protect our hospitals..with guns.
We protect OUR children.... with a sign.
"This is a gun free zone"
Address the known threat and worry about the rest later.
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This is the logic of the new Authoritarian Left. Run, tell mommy, and the bad guy will be in BIG trouble!PurpleThrobber said:
Solving hypotheticals and letting the slaughter continue is genius logic.Gwad said:
So what happens when people that want to hurt start using more covert means?doogie said:We protect our President.....with guns.
We protect our Congress.... with guns.
We protect our athletes.... with guns.
We protect our Governors... with guns.
We protect our Celebrities....with guns.
We protect the elites and THEIR children......with guns.
We protect our Banks....... with guns.
We protect our Courts...... with guns.
We protect our airports....with guns.
We protect our hospitals..with guns.
We protect OUR children.... with a sign.
"This is a gun free zone"
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Chasing symptoms instead of addressing the ultimate cause? Seems dumb.PurpleThrobber said:
Solving hypotheticals and letting the slaughter continue is genius logic.Gwad said:
So what happens when people that want to hurt start using more covert means?doogie said:We protect our President.....with guns.
We protect our Congress.... with guns.
We protect our athletes.... with guns.
We protect our Governors... with guns.
We protect our Celebrities....with guns.
We protect the elites and THEIR children......with guns.
We protect our Banks....... with guns.
We protect our Courts...... with guns.
We protect our airports....with guns.
We protect our hospitals..with guns.
We protect OUR children.... with a sign.
"This is a gun free zone"
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Or maybe we can address both? Ever think of that? Obviously not.Gwad said:
Chasing symptoms instead of addressing the ultimate cause? Seems dumb.PurpleThrobber said:
Solving hypotheticals and letting the slaughter continue is genius logic.Gwad said:
So what happens when people that want to hurt start using more covert means?doogie said:We protect our President.....with guns.
We protect our Congress.... with guns.
We protect our athletes.... with guns.
We protect our Governors... with guns.
We protect our Celebrities....with guns.
We protect the elites and THEIR children......with guns.
We protect our Banks....... with guns.
We protect our Courts...... with guns.
We protect our airports....with guns.
We protect our hospitals..with guns.
We protect OUR children.... with a sign.
"This is a gun free zone"
Address the known threat and worry about the rest later.
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Da fuq are you talking about?Gwad said:
Chasing symptoms instead of addressing the ultimate cause? Seems dumb.PurpleThrobber said:
Solving hypotheticals and letting the slaughter continue is genius logic.Gwad said:
So what happens when people that want to hurt start using more covert means?doogie said:We protect our President.....with guns.
We protect our Congress.... with guns.
We protect our athletes.... with guns.
We protect our Governors... with guns.
We protect our Celebrities....with guns.
We protect the elites and THEIR children......with guns.
We protect our Banks....... with guns.
We protect our Courts...... with guns.
We protect our airports....with guns.
We protect our hospitals..with guns.
We protect OUR children.... with a sign.
"This is a gun free zone"
Address the known threat and worry about the rest later.
Guns come into schools. Shoot kids. Kids die.
Solve for keeping guns out of schools. Period. Metals detectors, armed guards at entrances. Anal cavity searches. Who the fuck cares? Just keep the guns outside the building.
Perseverating over background checks and constitutional rights and liberty and shit....fuck that. KEEP THE GODDAMNED GUNS OUT OF THE SCHOOLS.
All the intellectual masturbation is secondary noise.
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Mexico has very strict gun control.
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The root or closer to the root is focusing our discernment on why people want to harm other people. The way that they executed their desire to hurt other people is closer to a symptom. Creating a more restrictive environment or adding more tools for harm to the mix just creates a more tense environment in the long run.PurpleThrobber said:
Da fuq are you talking about?Gwad said:
Chasing symptoms instead of addressing the ultimate cause? Seems dumb.PurpleThrobber said:
Solving hypotheticals and letting the slaughter continue is genius logic.Gwad said:
So what happens when people that want to hurt start using more covert means?doogie said:We protect our President.....with guns.
We protect our Congress.... with guns.
We protect our athletes.... with guns.
We protect our Governors... with guns.
We protect our Celebrities....with guns.
We protect the elites and THEIR children......with guns.
We protect our Banks....... with guns.
We protect our Courts...... with guns.
We protect our airports....with guns.
We protect our hospitals..with guns.
We protect OUR children.... with a sign.
"This is a gun free zone"
Address the known threat and worry about the rest later.
Guns come into schools. Shoot kids. Kids die.
Solve for keeping guns out of schools. Period. Metals detectors, armed guards at entrances. Anal cavity searches. Who the fuck cares? Just keep the guns outside the building.
Perseverating over background checks and constitutional rights and liberty and shit....fuck that. KEEP THE GODDAMNED GUNS OUT OF THE SCHOOLS.
All the intellectual masturbation is secondary noise.
