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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    I prefer abortions by SMOD
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    I prefer abortions global extinction events by SMOD

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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,680
    this thread is an abortion
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,286
    TurdBuffer said:

    So disappointed.

    I really, really thought this thread would be about taint-licking.

    It isn't? Shit. I missed my mark.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,710 Founders Club
    creepycoug said:

    YellowSnow said:

    creepycoug said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Safe

    Legal

    Rare

    The Bill Clinton theory. Its a good one. If you can't figure out you want an abortion by week 20 you have issues.

    The argument in favor of abortion for the man of faith is the carnage that back alley abortions would bring.

    I also agree with @dnc that the sonogram has an effect on the debate. Its a baby when its yours its a tissue mass when it is someone else's

    well, we all have issues.

    back-alley is a good, but a pragmatic concern. here, we are wrestling with whether you're doing the moral equivalent of walking into a store and shooting someone. bigger question than "they'll just do it the wrong way" concerns, valid though they may be. I too watched Cider House Rules.

    the sonogram is irrelevant. it's murder or it's not.

    I thought and wrote a lot about this issue as an undergrad. I've concluded it is and should be polarizing af. You either think it's the moral equivalent of removing a mole, or you think you're killing a person for convenience.

    Why isnt stopping those little swimmers before they reach the egg wrong then? Don't they have a right to reach their target?
    Different. Otherwise, we have to conclude that Swaye is committing genocide every 20 minutes. Otherwise, every time your wife runs the red river you'd be having a funeral.

    Once they reach their goal, you have the beginnings of a person, if left alone.
    Sometimes the Red Army can be late to the fight, but then show up 6 or 7 weeks later. Some might celebrate, while others are devastated. Point being, the clump of cells is extremely vulnerable to dying off in the first number of weeks, and I don't think it's "intellectually terrible" to question the point at which "life begins".

    You don't seem to think it's the egg, but that thing is still packed with tons of DNA and stopping the swimmer from getting to it is still playing god to one extent or another. Saying either it's "life" at the moment of conception, or not life until a human is actually outside the womb, is too absolutist for my taste.
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  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Conception is a stupid layman's term.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,710 Founders Club
    dflea said:

    Conception is a stupid layman's term.

    Why? Do you play a doctor on TV or something?
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  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    YellowSnow said:

    dflea said:

    Conception is a stupid layman's term.

    Why? Do you play a doctor on TV or something?
    No.

    The proper terms are ovulation, fertilization and implantation even if you aren't a doctor.

    It's like calling every sickness "flu".

    The layman's term comment wasn't directed at you. I was just running my hole.
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