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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    I'd feel safer if a few teachers on campus were knowingly armed, or had access to guns in strategically located gun safes within the school. Radical? Who GAF. Cowards like this crazy little fucker thrive when they know there won't be anyone shooting back at them. Let it be known that some teachers are well-trained and armed, and most of these shootings don't happen.

    Yes if there is one thing that mass shooters that usually commit suicide are scared of, it's dying.

    No one has done this expecting to get away.
    I think that's well known. The idea is to stop them immediately. Waiting for help to arrive means more time for the killer to carry out his crime. Average response time in most larger cities to a high priority call is 8 minutes. Rural areas can be 20 minutes to and hour.
    No The answer is to stop it before it happens. You can't rely on someone off site to stop it once it starts. Almost all of these little fucks have laid a trail of bread crumbs as to what they are going to do, but no one steps up and turns them in.
    The best way to stop it before it happens is to take away the guns.
    Everyone's?

    How?
    Modify the second amendment to ban assault rifles.



    This will never happen of course, because we have chosen to make gun fanatics more important than children.
    Assuming we can define that those guns are already illegal. That's why those kids burned in Waco

    Making a product illegal only makes it more valuable

    Never owned a gun. If that works do it but it won't

    Do we know if this nut had a legal gun?
    No other major Western nation has this school shooting epidemic.

    I wonder why.
    Dodge and weave

    Talking points are more important than a solution
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    I'd feel safer if a few teachers on campus were knowingly armed, or had access to guns in strategically located gun safes within the school. Radical? Who GAF. Cowards like this crazy little fucker thrive when they know there won't be anyone shooting back at them. Let it be known that some teachers are well-trained and armed, and most of these shootings don't happen.

    Yes if there is one thing that mass shooters that usually commit suicide are scared of, it's dying.

    No one has done this expecting to get away.
    I think that's well known. The idea is to stop them immediately. Waiting for help to arrive means more time for the killer to carry out his crime. Average response time in most larger cities to a high priority call is 8 minutes. Rural areas can be 20 minutes to and hour.
    No The answer is to stop it before it happens. You can't rely on someone off site to stop it once it starts. Almost all of these little fucks have laid a trail of bread crumbs as to what they are going to do, but no one steps up and turns them in.
    The best way to stop it before it happens is to take away the guns.
    Everyone's?

    How?
    Modify the second amendment to ban assault rifles.

    This will never happen of course, because we have chosen to make gun fanatics more important than children.
    I never realized, until this very moment, that Boobs was a girl.
    Serious question with no agenda, what does a semi auto AR provide you personally that a bolt or lever action rifle does not, other than less reloading?
    The ability to obliterate a half rack of empty cans with one squeeze,,, duh???
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    I'd feel safer if a few teachers on campus were knowingly armed, or had access to guns in strategically located gun safes within the school. Radical? Who GAF. Cowards like this crazy little fucker thrive when they know there won't be anyone shooting back at them. Let it be known that some teachers are well-trained and armed, and most of these shootings don't happen.

    Yes if there is one thing that mass shooters that usually commit suicide are scared of, it's dying.

    No one has done this expecting to get away.
    I think that's well known. The idea is to stop them immediately. Waiting for help to arrive means more time for the killer to carry out his crime. Average response time in most larger cities to a high priority call is 8 minutes. Rural areas can be 20 minutes to and hour.
    No The answer is to stop it before it happens. You can't rely on someone off site to stop it once it starts. Almost all of these little fucks have laid a trail of bread crumbs as to what they are going to do, but no one steps up and turns them in.
    The best way to stop it before it happens is to take away the guns.
    Everyone's?

    How?
    Modify the second amendment to ban assault rifles.



    This will never happen of course, because we have chosen to make gun fanatics more important than children.
    Assuming we can define that those guns are already illegal. That's why those kids burned in Waco

    Making a product illegal only makes it more valuable

    Never owned a gun. If that works do it but it won't

    Do we know if this nut had a legal gun?
    Leave the gross speculation to Boobs... Ok buddy!!!!
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    I'd feel safer if a few teachers on campus were knowingly armed, or had access to guns in strategically located gun safes within the school. Radical? Who GAF. Cowards like this crazy little fucker thrive when they know there won't be anyone shooting back at them. Let it be known that some teachers are well-trained and armed, and most of these shootings don't happen.

    Yes if there is one thing that mass shooters that usually commit suicide are scared of, it's dying.

    No one has done this expecting to get away.
    I think that's well known. The idea is to stop them immediately. Waiting for help to arrive means more time for the killer to carry out his crime. Average response time in most larger cities to a high priority call is 8 minutes. Rural areas can be 20 minutes to and hour.
    No The answer is to stop it before it happens. You can't rely on someone off site to stop it once it starts. Almost all of these little fucks have laid a trail of bread crumbs as to what they are going to do, but no one steps up and turns them in.
    Thought police?

    Mr. Orwell, meet SalemKewg. They don't reed strong over at WSU, so maybe you should tell him about your work.
    Your ACLU is showing counselor.
    Well at least I'm a REAL *-douchebag apologistAmerican!!!!!!!!!!!
    Do you even know what angle you're taking in this thread? I think you've lost your place or something.
    Great quote skills as always. That knock you hear on the door is the nurse with the Med cart. Please swallow this time
    Uh, you got that from me. I thought we weren't going to talk about that on this forum.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    I'd feel safer if a few teachers on campus were knowingly armed, or had access to guns in strategically located gun safes within the school. Radical? Who GAF. Cowards like this crazy little fucker thrive when they know there won't be anyone shooting back at them. Let it be known that some teachers are well-trained and armed, and most of these shootings don't happen.

    Yes if there is one thing that mass shooters that usually commit suicide are scared of, it's dying.

    No one has done this expecting to get away.
    I think that's well known. The idea is to stop them immediately. Waiting for help to arrive means more time for the killer to carry out his crime. Average response time in most larger cities to a high priority call is 8 minutes. Rural areas can be 20 minutes to and hour.
    No The answer is to stop it before it happens. You can't rely on someone off site to stop it once it starts. Almost all of these little fucks have laid a trail of bread crumbs as to what they are going to do, but no one steps up and turns them in.
    The best way to stop it before it happens is to take away the guns.
    Everyone's?

    How?
    Modify the second amendment to ban assault rifles.



    This will never happen of course, because we have chosen to make gun fanatics more important than children.
    Assuming we can define that those guns are already illegal. That's why those kids burned in Waco

    Making a product illegal only makes it more valuable

    Never owned a gun. If that works do it but it won't

    Do we know if this nut had a legal gun?
    No other major Western nation has this school shooting epidemic.

    I wonder why.
    Dodge and weave

    Talking points are more important than a solution
    Me and Salem offered a solution. You guys just want to drag it all back in to politics.

    Reed our manifesto!
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    I'd feel safer if a few teachers on campus were knowingly armed, or had access to guns in strategically located gun safes within the school. Radical? Who GAF. Cowards like this crazy little fucker thrive when they know there won't be anyone shooting back at them. Let it be known that some teachers are well-trained and armed, and most of these shootings don't happen.

    Yes if there is one thing that mass shooters that usually commit suicide are scared of, it's dying.

    No one has done this expecting to get away.
    I think that's well known. The idea is to stop them immediately. Waiting for help to arrive means more time for the killer to carry out his crime. Average response time in most larger cities to a high priority call is 8 minutes. Rural areas can be 20 minutes to and hour.
    No The answer is to stop it before it happens. You can't rely on someone off site to stop it once it starts. Almost all of these little fucks have laid a trail of bread crumbs as to what they are going to do, but no one steps up and turns them in.
    The best way to stop it before it happens is to take away the guns.
    Everyone's?

    How?
    Modify the second amendment to ban assault rifles.



    This will never happen of course, because we have chosen to make gun fanatics more important than children.
    Assuming we can define that those guns are already illegal. That's why those kids burned in Waco

    Making a product illegal only makes it more valuable

    Never owned a gun. If that works do it but it won't

    Do we know if this nut had a legal gun?
    No other major Western nation has this school shooting epidemic.

    I wonder why.
    Dodge and weave

    Talking points are more important than a solution
    The solution is to do what they did.

    HTH
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    I'd feel safer if a few teachers on campus were knowingly armed, or had access to guns in strategically located gun safes within the school. Radical? Who GAF. Cowards like this crazy little fucker thrive when they know there won't be anyone shooting back at them. Let it be known that some teachers are well-trained and armed, and most of these shootings don't happen.

    Yes if there is one thing that mass shooters that usually commit suicide are scared of, it's dying.

    No one has done this expecting to get away.
    I think that's well known. The idea is to stop them immediately. Waiting for help to arrive means more time for the killer to carry out his crime. Average response time in most larger cities to a high priority call is 8 minutes. Rural areas can be 20 minutes to and hour.
    No The answer is to stop it before it happens. You can't rely on someone off site to stop it once it starts. Almost all of these little fucks have laid a trail of bread crumbs as to what they are going to do, but no one steps up and turns them in.
    The best way to stop it before it happens is to take away the guns.
    Everyone's?

    How?
    Modify the second amendment to ban assault rifles.



    This will never happen of course, because we have chosen to make gun fanatics more important than children.
    Assuming we can define that those guns are already illegal. That's why those kids burned in Waco

    Making a product illegal only makes it more valuable

    Never owned a gun. If that works do it but it won't

    Do we know if this nut had a legal gun?
    No other major Western nation has this school shooting epidemic.

    I wonder why.
    Dodge and weave

    Talking points are more important than a solution
    The solution is to do what they did.

    HTH
    Please explain
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,425 Founders Club

    I'd feel safer if a few teachers on campus were knowingly armed, or had access to guns in strategically located gun safes within the school. Radical? Who GAF. Cowards like this crazy little fucker thrive when they know there won't be anyone shooting back at them. Let it be known that some teachers are well-trained and armed, and most of these shootings don't happen.

    This is your ideal society?
    Pragmatic is the word you're looking for.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    I'd feel safer if a few teachers on campus were knowingly armed, or had access to guns in strategically located gun safes within the school. Radical? Who GAF. Cowards like this crazy little fucker thrive when they know there won't be anyone shooting back at them. Let it be known that some teachers are well-trained and armed, and most of these shootings don't happen.

    Yes if there is one thing that mass shooters that usually commit suicide are scared of, it's dying.

    No one has done this expecting to get away.
    I think that's well known. The idea is to stop them immediately. Waiting for help to arrive means more time for the killer to carry out his crime. Average response time in most larger cities to a high priority call is 8 minutes. Rural areas can be 20 minutes to and hour.
    No The answer is to stop it before it happens. You can't rely on someone off site to stop it once it starts. Almost all of these little fucks have laid a trail of bread crumbs as to what they are going to do, but no one steps up and turns them in.
    The best way to stop it before it happens is to take away the guns.
    Everyone's?

    How?
    Modify the second amendment to ban assault rifles.



    This will never happen of course, because we have chosen to make gun fanatics more important than children.
    Assuming we can define that those guns are already illegal. That's why those kids burned in Waco

    Making a product illegal only makes it more valuable

    Never owned a gun. If that works do it but it won't

    Do we know if this nut had a legal gun?
    No other major Western nation has this school shooting epidemic.

    I wonder why.
    Dodge and weave

    Talking points are more important than a solution
    The solution is to do what they did.

    HTH
    Please explain
    Do what Australia did

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-australia-35048251
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
    When is the legislation being introduced?
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    When is the legislation being introduced?

    Too many bought and paid for shills with D's next to their name for that to happen.
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    I'd feel safer if a few teachers on campus were knowingly armed, or had access to guns in strategically located gun safes within the school. Radical? Who GAF. Cowards like this crazy little fucker thrive when they know there won't be anyone shooting back at them. Let it be known that some teachers are well-trained and armed, and most of these shootings don't happen.

    Yes if there is one thing that mass shooters that usually commit suicide are scared of, it's dying.

    No one has done this expecting to get away.
    I think that's well known. The idea is to stop them immediately. Waiting for help to arrive means more time for the killer to carry out his crime. Average response time in most larger cities to a high priority call is 8 minutes. Rural areas can be 20 minutes to and hour.
    No The answer is to stop it before it happens. You can't rely on someone off site to stop it once it starts. Almost all of these little fucks have laid a trail of bread crumbs as to what they are going to do, but no one steps up and turns them in.
    The best way to stop it before it happens is to take away the guns.
    Everyone's?

    How?
    Modify the second amendment to ban assault rifles.



    This will never happen of course, because we have chosen to make gun fanatics more important than children.
    Assuming we can define that those guns are already illegal. That's why those kids burned in Waco

    Making a product illegal only makes it more valuable

    Never owned a gun. If that works do it but it won't

    Do we know if this nut had a legal gun?
    Yes, he purchased the assault rifle legally.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/02/15/florida-shooting-suspect-bought-gun-legally-authorities-say/340606002/
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    salemcoog said:

    When is the legislation being introduced?

    Too many bought and paid for shills with D's next to their name for that to happen.
    Yeah don't hold your breath considering nothing happened after 20 six year olds were murdered in an elementary school.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    pawz said:

    I'd feel safer if a few teachers on campus were knowingly armed, or had access to guns in strategically located gun safes within the school. Radical? Who GAF. Cowards like this crazy little fucker thrive when they know there won't be anyone shooting back at them. Let it be known that some teachers are well-trained and armed, and most of these shootings don't happen.

    This is your ideal society?
    Pragmatic is the word you're looking for.
    Personally, I think trying to solve the root problem is better than accepting guns in schools and teachers trained as shooters as pragmatic.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:
    I can picture you in your Camaro or Firebird cruising the strip in Salem rocking Night Ranger.
  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,070

    salemcoog said:
    I can picture you in your Camaro or Firebird cruising the strip in Salem rocking Night Ranger.
    We did that on McHenry in Modesto in a '66 Buick Electra 225
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    BearsWiin said:

    salemcoog said:
    I can picture you in your Camaro or Firebird cruising the strip in Salem rocking Night Ranger.
    We did that on McHenry in Modesto in a '66 Buick Electra 225
    You and Lucas?
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,425 Founders Club

    pawz said:

    I'd feel safer if a few teachers on campus were knowingly armed, or had access to guns in strategically located gun safes within the school. Radical? Who GAF. Cowards like this crazy little fucker thrive when they know there won't be anyone shooting back at them. Let it be known that some teachers are well-trained and armed, and most of these shootings don't happen.

    This is your ideal society?
    Pragmatic is the word you're looking for.
    Personally, I think trying to solve the root problem is better than accepting guns in schools and teachers trained as shooters as pragmatic.
    That's fair. How do you plan to solve the mental health crisis in America? More drugs clearly isn't working.


    In the interim, we need a pragmatic solution that will work. This solution is the pink elephant the left doesn't want to talk about.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    edited February 2018

    salemcoog said:
    I can picture you in your Camaro or Firebird Bronco cruising the strip in Salem rocking Night Ranger.
    And it was Riverside in Ol Spokaloo.
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    I'd feel safer if a few teachers on campus were knowingly armed, or had access to guns in strategically located gun safes within the school. Radical? Who GAF. Cowards like this crazy little fucker thrive when they know there won't be anyone shooting back at them. Let it be known that some teachers are well-trained and armed, and most of these shootings don't happen.

    This is your ideal society?
    Pragmatic is the word you're looking for.
    Personally, I think trying to solve the root problem is better than accepting guns in schools and teachers trained as shooters as pragmatic.
    That's fair. How do you plan to solve the mental health crisis in America? More drugs clearly isn't working.


    In the interim, we need a pragmatic solution that will work. This solution is the pink elephant the left doesn't want to talk about.
    I think the mental health crisis is about societal conditions, and probably largely driven by media as some have said. That is an extremely complex problem that cannot be solved quickly.

    But in the interim, in fact in the interim and beyond, I think a civilian ban on assault weapons/magazines is pragmatic. Standard capacity semi auto handguns and standard capacity recreational weapons can stick around with background checks and some level of pre-sale mandatory safety training. I don't think anyone will ever convince me that an assault weapon is practical and necessary outside of military or paramilitary use.
  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,070

    BearsWiin said:

    salemcoog said:
    I can picture you in your Camaro or Firebird cruising the strip in Salem rocking Night Ranger.
    We did that on McHenry in Modesto in a '66 Buick Electra 225
    You and Lucas?
    Back in his day it was 10th Street, not McHenry. He was Downey '63, I was Davis '86.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,425 Founders Club

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    I'd feel safer if a few teachers on campus were knowingly armed, or had access to guns in strategically located gun safes within the school. Radical? Who GAF. Cowards like this crazy little fucker thrive when they know there won't be anyone shooting back at them. Let it be known that some teachers are well-trained and armed, and most of these shootings don't happen.

    This is your ideal society?
    Pragmatic is the word you're looking for.
    Personally, I think trying to solve the root problem is better than accepting guns in schools and teachers trained as shooters as pragmatic.
    That's fair. How do you plan to solve the mental health crisis in America? More drugs clearly isn't working.


    In the interim, we need a pragmatic solution that will work. This solution is the pink elephant the left doesn't want to talk about.
    I think the mental health crisis is about societal conditions, and probably largely driven by media as some have said. That is an extremely complex problem that cannot be solved quickly.

    But in the interim, in fact in the interim and beyond, I think a civilian ban on assault weapons/magazines is pragmatic. Standard capacity semi auto handguns and standard capacity recreational weapons can stick around with background checks and some level of pre-sale mandatory safety training. I don't think anyone will ever convince me that an assault weapon is practical and necessary outside of military or paramilitary use.
    So you support a ban of assault weapons from local police forces? including federal agencies like Bureau of Land Management?

    If so, I'm willing to trade.

    If not, I'm going to cling to the 2nd Amendment with every fiber of my being.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    I'd feel safer if a few teachers on campus were knowingly armed, or had access to guns in strategically located gun safes within the school. Radical? Who GAF. Cowards like this crazy little fucker thrive when they know there won't be anyone shooting back at them. Let it be known that some teachers are well-trained and armed, and most of these shootings don't happen.

    This is your ideal society?
    Pragmatic is the word you're looking for.
    Personally, I think trying to solve the root problem is better than accepting guns in schools and teachers trained as shooters as pragmatic.
    That's fair. How do you plan to solve the mental health crisis in America? More drugs clearly isn't working.


    In the interim, we need a pragmatic solution that will work. This solution is the pink elephant the left doesn't want to talk about.


  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    I'd feel safer if a few teachers on campus were knowingly armed, or had access to guns in strategically located gun safes within the school. Radical? Who GAF. Cowards like this crazy little fucker thrive when they know there won't be anyone shooting back at them. Let it be known that some teachers are well-trained and armed, and most of these shootings don't happen.

    This is your ideal society?
    Pragmatic is the word you're looking for.
    Personally, I think trying to solve the root problem is better than accepting guns in schools and teachers trained as shooters as pragmatic.
    That's fair. How do you plan to solve the mental health crisis in America? More drugs clearly isn't working.


    In the interim, we need a pragmatic solution that will work. This solution is the pink elephant the left doesn't want to talk about.
    Not cut mental health funding for one.

    Was the kid on any drugs?
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    dflea said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    There were warnings from the shooter himself. FBI was notified. They were probably too busy running wire taps to do anything.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/15/nikolas-cruz-school-shooter-comment-reported-to-fbi-months-ago-vlogger-says.html

    What no one ever mentions is that almost all of the school shooters were on antidepressants. Listen to the warning speech during the next commercial for one. The problem is a mental health issue more than anything else. All the students knew this kid was a nut job. The school knew it as well. Now we know the FBI was warned about him and yet he carried out his plans.

    The Israeli's in the 70's suffered numerous terrorist attacks at schools, school buses, field trips etc. They solved the problem. They armed some of the teachers. Terrorists didn't like their nice soft targets shooting back.

    The mass shooting stats up above are misleading as everyone has a different definition of mass shooting, school shooting etc. Anti gun groups even count anything near a school.

    I checked my guns this morning. They were all still where i left them. Hadn't killed anyone or left the premises. They are only as good, evil or crazy as the person using them.


    And for the Franny.

    Stop trying to shed light on the real problem here, which is mental health.


    It really detracts from Boobs and fleas simplistic blame it on Trump,Republicans and the mere existence of firearms.
    You worthless fucking cunt. I simply said Trump was a fuckhead for easing restrictions on mentally ill people getting guns. Nothing more.

    The rest of your cunty fucking post is just you being the retarded cunt you are.

    It would be great if someone shot your dumb fucking ass instead of a bunch of kids.

    Go fuck yourself.
    I'm hearing water is wet.