According to many on the left, even the NYT is racist now
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Of course it sounds like a logical plan to you. Gives you everything you want: total amnesty, no wall, but with the inconvenience that states and cities agree to comply with federal immigration law they should have been complying with in the first place. It's a shitty plan worthy of Lindsay Graham, that wouldn't wouldn't neuter the democratic party at all. It would neuter Trump's base and ensure he doesn't get re-elected.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
That's a logical plan that would get 80% support.salemcoog said:I don't see how it WOULD benefit our Country to give folks the boot who have been working, paying taxes and not breaking the law. If they stole someone's job when they got here, it's their's now and many of those employees wouldn't be replaced quickly. Meanwhile farmers, restaurants and hotels and creeps lawn are working shorthanded.
Trump actually has the balls to get something like this done. Give an amnesty plan to not just the DACA's but also the folks who have been here 10 or more years and fit the above stated criteria. But on the back end of this, there would be no more sanctuary cities and local and state law enforcement would need to cooperate and collaborate with ICE, Feds and Border Patrol to make illegals that don't fit the criteria to GTFO. I don't really care about the wall as that's just a rallying point for low info voter.
If he were to step up and do that, it would absolutely neuter the Democratic party for years.
Which means we can't have it.
Most are too PC to say it, but I'm not. Trump's base is fed up with immigration and wants the immigration rate to be ZERO. Only the best and brightest 5 star recruits should be admitted. There will be a wall to keep out unwanted vermin. Nothing short of the total destruction of the visa lottery program will be acceptable. No more religious fascists from shithole countries. No more chain migration.
In exchange for everything just listed,the dreamersthat particular group of illegal aliens can stay.
Pretty simple.
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On some weird level, I've learned to like you a little bit, and I've accepted your xenophobia and thinly-veiled racism in the way I accept a lot of things in life.Sledog said:
Since the democrats are the party of racism what they bring is simple, democratic votes! As the recently leaked DNC memo touts dreamers as the democrats key to winning future elections. Dem's have purchased votes since '64 and this is nothing new except that they wish to import those votes. Dem's in Kali are registering illegals to vote. That they want to bring i the poor is the key piece of information. They arrive poor and immediately go on government assistance and the dems always promise more free money and benefits and adds them to the democratic machines indentured voting block who's subsistence relies on those benefits. Why else would we have 7 generations of the same families on welfare etc. HTHPitchfork51 said:I still can't figure out what benefits mass illegal low skilled and non educated people are bringing.
Also didn't realize the Dems push back on everify.
Not that it matters since every illegal has a fake social.
But you calling the Democratic party the party of racists, in the spirit in which that term is normally used (as opposed to the twisted version of it that focuses on the focus on race as itself racist) is basically POTD, and not in a good way.
The paper hanging and the rhetoric have reached an all-time level now. Everyone wants votes. Of course the Ds use poor people for votes, just like right likes to re-draw voting districts for cartography fun and games. That means nothing to me either way.
But this drum beat of yours that the newly invented Republican party, which has absofuckinglutely sold its soul to (1) the religious fundies, (2) the poor white trash redneck belt, (3) the tin-foil hat crowd, is somehow keepin' in real for the Amurican Peeps is just too much fucking fun for one day.
The only thing left for me to determine is whether you & the other Breitbarts are (a) that fucking stupid and easily manipulated or (2) just absolutely fucking with me and the rest of the bored. I have my theory about OBK, and maybe Turd. You and and some of the other bananas are an open question. -
Crystal clear to everyone with a functioning brain. Why do they continue to lie about it?greenblood said:
The benefit is their vote. HTHPitchfork51 said:I still can't figure out what benefits mass illegal low skilled and non educated people are bringing.
Also didn't realize the Dems push back on everify.
Not that it matters since every illegal has a fake social. -
Does your wife know why your Billings are down?creepycoug said:
On some weird level, I've learned to like you a little bit, and I've accepted your xenophobia and thinly-veiled racism in the way I accept a lot of things in life.Sledog said:
Since the democrats are the party of racism what they bring is simple, democratic votes! As the recently leaked DNC memo touts dreamers as the democrats key to winning future elections. Dem's have purchased votes since '64 and this is nothing new except that they wish to import those votes. Dem's in Kali are registering illegals to vote. That they want to bring i the poor is the key piece of information. They arrive poor and immediately go on government assistance and the dems always promise more free money and benefits and adds them to the democratic machines indentured voting block who's subsistence relies on those benefits. Why else would we have 7 generations of the same families on welfare etc. HTHPitchfork51 said:I still can't figure out what benefits mass illegal low skilled and non educated people are bringing.
Also didn't realize the Dems push back on everify.
Not that it matters since every illegal has a fake social.
But you calling the Democratic party the party of racists, in the spirit in which that term is normally used (as opposed to the twisted version of it that focuses on the focus on race as itself racist) is basically POTD, and not in a good way.
The paper hanging and the rhetoric have reached an all-time level now. Everyone wants votes. Of course the Ds use poor people for votes, just like right likes to re-draw voting districts for cartography fun and games. That means nothing to me either way.
But this drum beat of yours that the newly invented Republican party, which has absofuckinglutely sold its soul to (1) the religious fundies, (2) the poor white trash redneck belt, (3) the tin-foil hat crowd, is somehow keepin' in real for the Amurican Peeps is just too much fucking fun for one day.
The only thing left for me to determine is whether you & the other Breitbarts are (a) that fucking stupid and easily manipulated or (2) just absolutely fucking with me and the rest of the bored. I have my theory about OBK, and maybe Turd. You and and some of the other bananas are an open question. -
Salem broh, meat OBK. OBK, meat Salem, my main CUOG!!!!!!!!
Salem thinks you're a low info voter and doesn't think the wall is a real thing.
Just wanted to make sure you two met.
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@salemcoog is on the right track. The plan has to piss off the deport them all crowd and the open borders crowd.
People that are here doing the right thing should stay. Deadbeats and losers LEAVE. Border security now and forever including a tracking system for the visa over stay crowd that fly in.
Trump already offered to take the heat from the OBK crowd and Durbin panicked that it could happen -
I'm not in the zero negotiation crowd. The negotiating chips are the DACAs. I'm ok letting all of the DACAs stay in exchange for ALL of the reasonable border security/immigration demands that most Americans expect. Giving blanket amensty to the illegals already here who behave only inspires other motivated future illegals to attempt coming here. The government's job is NOT TO PROTECT ILLEGALS AND MAKE THEIR AGENDA A PRIORITY, IT IS TO PROTECT THE LIVES AND ECONOMIC SECURITY OF AMERICAN CITIZENS.
"My" crowd will stand their ground, because we're right. We see what went down in Germany and in Europe. We see how they're handling it over there, and won't permit that shit here. -
The non DACA "good" illegals are the crux of the matter. The open borders crowd has some leverage there because mass deportations don't play well on the news. You're right that a hefty majority are against a blanket amnesty. The trick is finding the middle thereoregonblitzkrieg said:I'm not in the zero negotiation crowd. The negotiating chips are the DACAs. I'm ok letting all of the DACAs stay in exchange for ALL of the reasonable border security/immigration demands that most Americans expect. Giving blanket amensty to the illegals already here who behave only inspires other motivated future illegals to attempt coming here. The government's job is NOT TO PROTECT ILLEGALS AND MAKE THEIR AGENDA A PRIORITY, IT IS TO PROTECT THE LIVES AND ECONOMIC SECURITY OF AMERICAN CITIZENS.
"My" crowd will stand their ground, because we're right. We see what went down in Germany and in Europe. We see how they're handling it over there, and won't permit that shit here. -
The only way I would budge from my hardline position on the "good illegals" which number at least 11 million, is to somehow enshrine permanent immigration restrictions in the constitution as an amendment that requires nearly impossible bipartisan support to overturn. This in order to pre-empt the ability of future generations of retards that were raised by the current generation of retards, from destroying the USA and changing it beyond all recognition, like what is happening in Europe.RaceBannon said:
The non DACA "good" illegals are the crux of the matter. The open borders crowd has some leverage there because mass deportations don't play well on the news. You're right that a hefty majority are against a blanket amnesty. The trick is finding the middle thereoregonblitzkrieg said:I'm not in the zero negotiation crowd. The negotiating chips are the DACAs. I'm ok letting all of the DACAs stay in exchange for ALL of the reasonable border security/immigration demands that most Americans expect. Giving blanket amensty to the illegals already here who behave only inspires other motivated future illegals to attempt coming here. The government's job is NOT TO PROTECT ILLEGALS AND MAKE THEIR AGENDA A PRIORITY, IT IS TO PROTECT THE LIVES AND ECONOMIC SECURITY OF AMERICAN CITIZENS.
"My" crowd will stand their ground, because we're right. We see what went down in Germany and in Europe. We see how they're handling it over there, and won't permit that shit here. -
Sanctuary cities take that title as a brand of honor, no way will they give that up.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
That's a logical plan that would get 80% support.salemcoog said:I don't see how it WOULD benefit our Country to give folks the boot who have been working, paying taxes and not breaking the law. If they stole someone's job when they got here, it's their's now and many of those employees wouldn't be replaced quickly. Meanwhile farmers, restaurants and hotels and creeps lawn are working shorthanded.
Trump actually has the balls to get something like this done. Give an amnesty plan to not just the DACA's but also the folks who have been here 10 or more years and fit the above stated criteria. But on the back end of this, there would be no more sanctuary cities and local and state law enforcement would need to cooperate and collaborate with ICE, Feds and Border Patrol to make illegals that don't fit the criteria to GTFO. I don't really care about the wall as that's just a rallying point for low info voter.
If he were to step up and do that, it would absolutely neuter the Democratic party for years.
Which means we can't have it.
