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Nearly 50% of Millennials Reject Capitalism

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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    salemcoog said:

    No other Economic system has pulled people out of poverty.

    None.

    The broken clock tells the right time. Nice job dipshit. Your next opportunity comes in exactly 12 hours. Be ready.
    You haven't read many books by Carnegie, have ya?
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    Millennial don't have the baggage you do when it comes to capitalism/socialism/communism. You bought into the government propaganda of capitalism = good, socialism and communism = evil. When they're really they're just economic systems. There is no good or evil.

    Human beings when presented with an argument that they disagree with will fall to the other extreme if the side they disagree with is unwilling to budge. Capitalism is the best economic system anyone has come up with but it's not perfect. Where and when it fails we should be willing to use other methods. Instead you cling desperately to capitalism. Pushing millennials to the other side.

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    The very idea that my lifestyle would be more or less the same as some @MikeSeaver - type character is morally offensive.

    Yes, I bought in. Some baggage is good baggage. This happens to be good baggage because it's true.

    There has yet to be a system known to man to eliminate scarcity better than the big Cap. And, as far as I can tell, even though we are wandering into the brave new world of warehouse providers of all we need, the shit that goes into that warehouse is coming from the same places it always has, and is still made with finite resource inputs.

    When we get to the Star Trek point, and have machines that make shit out of thin air, call me and I'll re-evaluate.

    I used to like you AGAG. You've changed man.
    I'm not even really sure what you're objecting to. I said capitalism is the best system. And nothing's changed with me.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited January 2018

    Millennial don't have the baggage you do when it comes to capitalism/socialism/communism. You bought into the government propaganda of capitalism = good, socialism and communism = evil. When they're really they're just economic systems. There is no good or evil.

    Human beings when presented with an argument that they disagree with will fall to the other extreme if the side they disagree with is unwilling to budge. Capitalism is the best economic system anyone has come up with but it's not perfect. Where and when it fails we should be willing to use other methods. Instead you cling desperately to capitalism. Pushing millennials to the other side.

    FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

    UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

    The very idea that my lifestyle would be more or less the same as some @MikeSeaver - type character is morally offensive.

    Yes, I bought in. Some baggage is good baggage. This happens to be good baggage because it's true.

    There has yet to be a system known to man to eliminate scarcity better than the big Cap. And, as far as I can tell, even though we are wandering into the brave new world of warehouse providers of all we need, the shit that goes into that warehouse is coming from the same places it always has, and is still made with finite resource inputs.

    When we get to the Star Trek point, and have machines that make shit out of thin air, call me and I'll re-evaluate.

    I used to like you AGAG. You've changed man.
    I'm not even really sure what you're objecting to. I said capitalism is the best system. And nothing's changed with me.
    Well someone sure got their signals crossed 'cause Anna left with Dad
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    edited January 2018

    Millennial don't have the baggage you do when it comes to capitalism/socialism/communism. You bought into the government propaganda of capitalism = good, socialism and communism = evil. When they're really they're just economic systems. There is no good or evil.

    Human beings when presented with an argument that they disagree with will fall to the other extreme if the side they disagree with is unwilling to budge. Capitalism is the best economic system anyone has come up with but it's not perfect. Where and when it fails we should be willing to use other methods. Instead you cling desperately to capitalism. Pushing millennials to the other side.

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    UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

    The very idea that my lifestyle would be more or less the same as some @MikeSeaver - type character is morally offensive.

    Yes, I bought in. Some baggage is good baggage. This happens to be good baggage because it's true.

    There has yet to be a system known to man to eliminate scarcity better than the big Cap. And, as far as I can tell, even though we are wandering into the brave new world of warehouse providers of all we need, the shit that goes into that warehouse is coming from the same places it always has, and is still made with finite resource inputs.

    When we get to the Star Trek point, and have machines that make shit out of thin air, call me and I'll re-evaluate.

    I used to like you AGAG. You've changed man.
    I'm not even really sure what you're objecting to. I said capitalism is the best system. And nothing's changed with me.
    You know that America isn't truly capitalism. Right? Go to India if you want that and tell me how you like it.
  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    edited January 2018

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Can we please keep personifying economic and political ideologies, but as the way to playfully insult each other please.

    Communism fucked @RaceBannon 's mother!!!!!

    Can you try posting something that isn't a pile of shit?
    Yes i will TRY, but i am a millennial.
    First you should try reading my posts before you make incorrect assumptions
    Sorry if I made you feel misunderstood, that was not my intention.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    LebamDawg said:

    Hayek talked about imperfect - I prefer the Hayek closer to perfect


    crows feet, but I guess I can just lose myself in the boobs (until I remember that harvey Weinstein had his schnoz in there)


  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Can we please keep personifying economic and political ideologies, but as the way to playfully insult each other please.

    Communism fucked @RaceBannon 's mother!!!!!

    Can you try posting something that isn't a pile of shit?
    Yes i will TRY, but i am a millennial.
    First you should try reading my posts before you make incorrect assumptions
    Sorry if I made you feel misunderstood, that was not my intention.
    I'm one of the few that will defend millennials here.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    I should have known with four pages of posts I'd regret opening this.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited January 2018
    BearsWiin said:

    As somebody who has taught both political theory and comparative politics at the university level, I always find these threads to be an absolute hoot.

    You're part of the problem, a far left douche churning out socialist/commie buttfucks sadled with debt because they were stupid enough to enroll at your school and take your worthless class. TYFYS.














    Not really. Fuck you.

  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,072
    I actually churned out a lot of lawyers, which is probably worse.

    IR and security studies in both academia and government are pretty nonpartisan, which is probably one of the main reasons why you don't understand it at all
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    Millennials know:

    20 years of pointless war that was costing over $1B a day at it's peak.

    The housing bubble where rich people robbed the American public and the government paid them back 100 cents on the dollar for any short term loss.

    Crippling student loan debt to get a job that previous generations never needed a formal education to do, yet still did the job equally well.

    There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on? A good capitalistic environment is supposed to motivate people to create a job instead of finding one, which went away 40 years ago.

    We are generally viewed negatively by most of the established world.

    We completely destroyed an entire continent in their lifetime and stirred up a hornets nest that brings terror to everyone's door step.

    We can't spare $4M for Meals on Wheels but we need $65B more annually for defense. You know, cause the......fuck we're out of enemies.

    The quality of life between working your ass off and not working at all is pretty similar.

    Trying to save money with a meager salary to enjoy life when it's already over instead of using it while you can enjoy it is fucking stupid. All you are doing it making someone else rich.

    If you work really hard you can be rich one day! 99.9% false.


    I can keep going. Millennials are a lot of things, but stupid isn't one of them. They're the best bullshit detectors this nation has ever produced.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on



    The people that started those businesses weren't fucking stupid enough to think everything had been invented

    CHRIST
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    doogie said:

    It’s not income inequality that’s the trigger, it’s simply comfort.

    Americans are happy with a screen, food and internet connection. Unless and until that changes, there is no risk of Radical Social unrest here.

    Yeah, talky box has ended any chance of revolution. Did you the know the idea of tv fame and celebrity was actually a government plan for national security?

    8 greyhounds running after a fake rabbit is something you can bet on. 8 greyhounds running around aimlessly is chaos.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on



    The people that started those businesses weren't fucking stupid enough to think everything had been invented

    CHRIST

    Right, because the fucking internet is going to be invented again.

    How many new major car and oil companies have popped up in the last 50 years that have put a dent in the big boy's wallets?

    Ford, Chevy, Chrysler.

    Exxon, Shell, BP.

    Anymore sound Boomer logic?
  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,072
    Mosster47 said:

    There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on



    The people that started those businesses weren't fucking stupid enough to think everything had been invented

    CHRIST

    Right, because the fucking internet is going to be invented again.

    How many new major car and oil companies have popped up in the last 50 years that have put a dent in the big boy's wallets?

    Ford, Chevy, Chrysler.

    Exxon, Shell, BP.

    Anymore sound Boomer logic?
    I think the poont is that new industries will be created, not that new companies will challenge established industry leaders. Weed, renewable energy, and hoverboards are still up for grabs.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    Mosster47 said:

    There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on



    The people that started those businesses weren't fucking stupid enough to think everything had been invented

    CHRIST

    Right, because the fucking internet is going to be invented again.

    How many new major car and oil companies have popped up in the last 50 years that have put a dent in the big boy's wallets?

    Ford, Chevy, Chrysler.

    Exxon, Shell, BP.

    Anymore sound Boomer logic?
    It's clear why you settled for government work.

    You don't have what it takes
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,045

    Millennial don't have the baggage you do when it comes to capitalism/socialism/communism. You bought into the government propaganda of capitalism = good, socialism and communism = evil. When they're really they're just economic systems. There is no good or evil.

    Human beings when presented with an argument that they disagree with will fall to the other extreme if the side they disagree with is unwilling to budge. Capitalism is the best economic system anyone has come up with but it's not perfect. Where and when it fails we should be willing to use other methods. Instead you cling desperately to capitalism. Pushing millennials to the other side.

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    UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

    The very idea that my lifestyle would be more or less the same as some @MikeSeaver - type character is morally offensive.

    Yes, I bought in. Some baggage is good baggage. This happens to be good baggage because it's true.

    There has yet to be a system known to man to eliminate scarcity better than the big Cap. And, as far as I can tell, even though we are wandering into the brave new world of warehouse providers of all we need, the shit that goes into that warehouse is coming from the same places it always has, and is still made with finite resource inputs.

    When we get to the Star Trek point, and have machines that make shit out of thin air, call me and I'll re-evaluate.

    I used to like you AGAG. You've changed man.
    I'm not even really sure what you're objecting to. I said capitalism is the best system. And nothing's changed with me.
    I just wanted to give you shit for even a remote criticism of the big Cap. And your comment about other methods both made me nervous, but curiously horny.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,045
    BearsWiin said:

    I actually churned out a lot of lawyers, which is probably worse.

    IR and security studies in both academia and government are pretty nonpartisan, which is probably one of the main reasons why you don't understand it at all

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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,063
    Mosster47 said:

    There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on



    The people that started those businesses weren't fucking stupid enough to think everything had been invented

    CHRIST

    Right, because the fucking internet is going to be invented again.

    How many new major car and oil companies have popped up in the last 50 years that have put a dent in the big boy's wallets?

    Ford, Chevy, Chrysler.

    Exxon, Shell, BP.

    Anymore sound Boomer logic?
    Tesla is chuckling.

    And the oil industry doesn't work like that. There are countless junior E&P companies that eventually get gobbled up by the big boys - or the big boys come in and lease up all the acreage surrounding productive fields. Any kid with a dream and the ability to hustle could start up an oil company, either buy some stripper wells or take a flyer and drill some shallow wells and be on their way. In the process, they may lose their shirt - but it happens all the time.

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,045

    There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on



    The people that started those businesses weren't fucking stupid enough to think everything had been invented

    CHRIST

    DEREK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're quote thingy is broken again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    DEREK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,045
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    No other Economic system has pulled people out of poverty.

    None.

    The broken clock tells the right time. Nice job dipshit. Your next opportunity comes in exactly 12 hours. Be ready.
    You haven't read many books by Carnegie, have ya?
    What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    salemcoog said:

    No other Economic system has pulled people out of poverty.

    None.

    Yes our current iteration of capitalism is excellent at this. The middle class is thriving.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,748 Standard Supporter
    Mosster47 said:

    Millennials know:

    20 years of pointless war that was costing over $1B a day at it's peak.

    The housing bubble where rich people robbed the American public and the government paid them back 100 cents on the dollar for any short term loss.

    Crippling student loan debt to get a job that previous generations never needed a formal education to do, yet still did the job equally well.

    There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on? A good capitalistic environment is supposed to motivate people to create a job instead of finding one, which went away 40 years ago.

    We are generally viewed negatively by most of the established world.

    We completely destroyed an entire continent in their lifetime and stirred up a hornets nest that brings terror to everyone's door step.

    We can't spare $4M for Meals on Wheels but we need $65B more annually for defense. You know, cause the......fuck we're out of enemies.

    The quality of life between working your ass off and not working at all is pretty similar.

    Trying to save money with a meager salary to enjoy life when it's already over instead of using it while you can enjoy it is fucking stupid. All you are doing it making someone else rich.

    If you work really hard you can be rich one day! 99.9% false.


    I can keep going. Millennials are a lot of things, but stupid isn't one of them. They're the best bullshit detectors this nation has ever produced.

    Most things on your list were previously satisfied by having common sense, a strong work ethic and life experience. All traits millennials have little of and try to replace it with shitty education in stupid fields.
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Millennials know:

    20 years of pointless war that was costing over $1B a day at it's peak.

    The housing bubble where rich people robbed the American public and the government paid them back 100 cents on the dollar for any short term loss.

    Crippling student loan debt to get a job that previous generations never needed a formal education to do, yet still did the job equally well.

    There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on? A good capitalistic environment is supposed to motivate people to create a job instead of finding one, which went away 40 years ago.

    We are generally viewed negatively by most of the established world.

    We completely destroyed an entire continent in their lifetime and stirred up a hornets nest that brings terror to everyone's door step.

    We can't spare $4M for Meals on Wheels but we need $65B more annually for defense. You know, cause the......fuck we're out of enemies.

    The quality of life between working your ass off and not working at all is pretty similar.

    Trying to save money with a meager salary to enjoy life when it's already over instead of using it while you can enjoy it is fucking stupid. All you are doing it making someone else rich.

    If you work really hard you can be rich one day! 99.9% false.


    I can keep going. Millennials are a lot of things, but stupid isn't one of them. They're the best bullshit detectors this nation has ever produced.

    Most things on your list were previously satisfied by having common sense, a strong work ethic and life experience. All traits millennials have little of and try to replace it with shitty education in stupid fields.
    Previously. You said it yourself. Things change.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    I don't agree with @Sledog . The millennials I have worked with lived n the film room and are more than willing to do what it takes to win. Nothing has changed

    I graduated high school in 1974 as America was descending in to hell. Guess what? Hard work still worked. Always has, always will

    its idiots like mooster running around saying all is lost that need to get a fucking clue

    Best thing I ever did was walking away from a career and starting over and working with millennials. We both benefited from it

    That's why I defend them here.
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    edited January 2018

    I don't agree with @Sledog . The millennials I have worked with lived n the film room and are more than willing to do what it takes to win. Nothing has changed

    I graduated high school in 1974 as America was descending in to hell. Guess what? Hard work still worked. Always has, always will

    its idiots like mooster running around saying all is lost that need to get a fucking clue

    Best thing I ever did was walking away from a career and starting over and working with millennials. We both benefited from it

    That's why I defend them here.

    I have a 6 figure salary and work in arguably the highest demand industry (tech). My partner (who has a higher 6 figure salary than me) and I can't even dream about buying a home within 30 miles of our workplace. Granted, I don't consider myself a millennial (I'm 36), but if we can't buy a house, things have just changed.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    I don't agree with @Sledog . The millennials I have worked with lived n the film room and are more than willing to do what it takes to win. Nothing has changed

    I graduated high school in 1974 as America was descending in to hell. Guess what? Hard work still worked. Always has, always will

    its idiots like mooster running around saying all is lost that need to get a fucking clue

    Best thing I ever did was walking away from a career and starting over and working with millennials. We both benefited from it

    That's why I defend them here.

    I have a 6 figure salary and work in arguably the highest demand industry (tech). My partner (who has a higher 6 figure salary than me) and I can't even dream about buying a home within 30 miles of our workplace. Granted, I don't consider myself a millennial (I'm 36), but if we can't buy a house, things have just changed.
    You and your partner can buy one together. I'm sure he'll help you clean the house.
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    2001400ex said:

    I don't agree with @Sledog . The millennials I have worked with lived n the film room and are more than willing to do what it takes to win. Nothing has changed

    I graduated high school in 1974 as America was descending in to hell. Guess what? Hard work still worked. Always has, always will

    its idiots like mooster running around saying all is lost that need to get a fucking clue

    Best thing I ever did was walking away from a career and starting over and working with millennials. We both benefited from it

    That's why I defend them here.

    I have a 6 figure salary and work in arguably the highest demand industry (tech). My partner (who has a higher 6 figure salary than me) and I can't even dream about buying a home within 30 miles of our workplace. Granted, I don't consider myself a millennial (I'm 36), but if we can't buy a house, things have just changed.
    You and your partner can buy one together. I'm sure he'll help you clean the house.
    My point was that we can't dream about it even with our combined salaries.