Nearly 50% of Millennials Reject Capitalism
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Did they have trigger warnings back thenBearsWiin said:As somebody who has taught both political theory and comparative politics at the university level, I always find these threads to be an absolute hoot.
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Maybe they should teach you a thing called human nature...jhfstyle24 said:
As someone who is currently in school, millenials are not taught that communism the ideal is evil, simply that evil people used it as a position of power to do harm because they wished.oregonblitzkrieg said:
"Communism isn't evil." Tell that to the victims. Joseph Stalin killed millions. Mao Zedong killed millions. Pol Pot killed millions. Kim Jong IL killed millions. But there is no good and evil according to you. Cool. Explain these guys and Hitler then.allpurpleallgold said:Millennial don't have the baggage you do when it comes to capitalism/socialism/communism. You bought into the government propaganda of capitalism = good, socialism and communism = evil. When they're really they're just economic systems. There is no good or evil.
Human beings when presented with an argument that they disagree with will fall to the other extreme if the side they disagree with is unwilling to budge. Capitalism is the best economic system anyone has come up with but it's not perfect. Where and when it fails we should be willing to use other methods. Instead you cling desperately to capitalism. Pushing millennials to the other side.
Make of that what you will.
When given that kind of power humans are inherently bad. Ideals don’t exist in the real world. My suggestion for you is to study something useful, so you don’t have to live on the government buck the rest of your life. -
Millennials hate capitalism because it makes them have to be responsible for their choices and hampers their “creativity”.
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Jesús Christ, this bored is so fucking old. Tell me about college in the fucking 70's when your degree pigeon holed you into some role you could never get out of.
The best programmer I've ever hired had a linguistics degree and just learned the skills needed to do web shit. I have plenty of fuckheads with CS degrees who won't believe me when I tell them they're only good enough to do support.
Many graduates from UW had parents who paid for everything, including me. It's not a poor person college like Wazzu. Save your 80k of debt smack for them or graduates of colleges that shouldn't even exist.
Capitalism in a first world country. Learn something about it. -
If the word ends in "ism" then it's probably flawed.
Francis Fukuyama made the observation in his book "Trust" that folks around the turn of the millennium were making the same fundamental error that the Marxist-Leninists had been making since 1848 - namely, that they were fetishizing an economic tool and transforming it into an ideology.
Hayek talked about imperfect information distorting markets and Adam Smith's conception of the "invisible hand" of the free market was intended to be guided ethically to produce the greatest benefits for "society at large."
So if you're talking about "capitalism" as we've seen over the past 20 years, with vulture capitalists, dot-com and crypto zillionaires, all managed by the grasping hand of Goldman Sachs, then there's not much for anyone to be sanguine about.
Lazy tropes like SOCIALISM =! STALIN/HITLER/VENEZUELA are dead-end thinking.
If your primary values are liberty and democracy, then those should be the first principles of your way of thinking. How societies arrange their markets for the allocation of goods and services doesn't really much matter to the former two values.
A free democracy can place limits on its markets. There aren't really any contradictions there. On the flip side, totalitarian states can (and have) engaged in radical "laissez-faire" economic projects when and where it suited them.
Thomas Piketty's research has shown that income inequality is the most destabilizing element of free societies, and it seems clear that periods of radical social unrest and the rise of despotisms and dictatorships regularly follow periods of great inequality of income. -
It’s not income inequality that’s the trigger, it’s simply comfort.
Americans are happy with a screen, food and internet connection. Unless and until that changes, there is no risk of Radical Social unrest here. -
Truth. You fuck with my free porn, the guns and religion compound is going on the road.doogie said:It’s not income inequality that’s the trigger, it’s simply comfort.
Americans are happy with a screen, food and internet connection. Unless and until that changes, there is no risk of Radical Social unrest here.
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APAG is right to a degree. Millennials I have been around definitely want to get rich and enjoy the life but they are somewhat like us fabled Boomers in that they also want a social component to life in these United States. Unfettered capitalism is a cold hard master where the losers lose big. So we have this hybrid.
It is also true that you can't have communism without the slaughter of the millions who won't go for it. Happens every time. I have always been a staunch anti communist because when i was young and wanting to change the world I wanted to make it better, not worse
Its cold war thinking to think that in order to make capitalism better we need social or communism. Believe it or not our system is constantly inventing this hybrid mix. -
No other Economic system has pulled people out of poverty.
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Jesus christ this place is amazingsalemcoog said:No other Economic system has pulled people out of poverty.
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Hey old manRaceBannon said:APAG is right to a degree. Millennials I have been around definitely want to get rich and enjoy the life but they are somewhat like us fabled Boomers in that they also want a social component to life in these United States. Unfettered capitalism is a cold hard master where the losers lose big. So we have this hybrid.
It is also true that you can't have communism without the slaughter of the millions who won't go for it. Happens every time. I have always been a staunch anti communist because when i was young and wanting to change the world I wanted to make it better, not worse
Its cold war thinking to think that in order to make capitalism better we need social or communism. Believe it or not our system is constantly inventing this hybrid mix.
Id push you down the stairs and go get a latte with my parents money afterward. -
I know, right? Some people are Soooo stupid/ignorant, they don't realize this!
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This place is amazing
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Can we please keep personifying economic and political ideologies, but as the way to playfully insult each other please.
Communism fucked @RaceBannon 's mother!!!!! -
Who didn't fuck race's mother.Gwad said:Can we please keep personifying economic and political ideologies as the status quo to playfully insult each other please.
Communism fucked @RaceBannon 's mother!!!!! -
In all seriousness my grandmother died in East Berlin and they wouldn't let my dad in to see her.
So fuck the ruskies and fuck the commies. -
Can you try posting something that isn't a pile of shit?Gwad said:Can we please keep personifying economic and political ideologies, but as the way to playfully insult each other please.
Communism fucked @RaceBannon 's mother!!!!! -
You normally annoy me, but that was pretty funny2001400ex said:
Who didn't fuck race's mother.Gwad said:Can we please keep personifying economic and political ideologies as the status quo to playfully insult each other please.
Communism fucked @RaceBannon 's mother!!!!! -
Yes i will TRY, but i am a millennial.RaceBannon said:
Can you try posting something that isn't a pile of shit?Gwad said:Can we please keep personifying economic and political ideologies, but as the way to playfully insult each other please.
Communism fucked @RaceBannon 's mother!!!!! -
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKallpurpleallgold said:Millennial don't have the baggage you do when it comes to capitalism/socialism/communism. You bought into the government propaganda of capitalism = good, socialism and communism = evil. When they're really they're just economic systems. There is no good or evil.
Human beings when presented with an argument that they disagree with will fall to the other extreme if the side they disagree with is unwilling to budge. Capitalism is the best economic system anyone has come up with but it's not perfect. Where and when it fails we should be willing to use other methods. Instead you cling desperately to capitalism. Pushing millennials to the other side.
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The very idea that my lifestyle would be more or less the same as some @MikeSeaver - type character is morally offensive.
Yes, I bought in. Some baggage is good baggage. This happens to be good baggage because it's true.
There has yet to be a system known to man to eliminate scarcity better than the big Cap. And, as far as I can tell, even though we are wandering into the brave new world of warehouse providers of all we need, the shit that goes into that warehouse is coming from the same places it always has, and is still made with finite resource inputs.
When we get to the Star Trek point, and have machines that make shit out of thin air, call me and I'll re-evaluate.
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First you should try reading my posts before you make incorrect assumptionsGwad said:
Yes i will TRY, but i am a millennial.RaceBannon said:
Can you try posting something that isn't a pile of shit?Gwad said:Can we please keep personifying economic and political ideologies, but as the way to playfully insult each other please.
Communism fucked @RaceBannon 's mother!!!!! -
Yeah, that's a big "no shit". That was a requirement in some class I took in HS. Sobering fucking movie.doogie said:Tell them to rent Killing Fields
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That would require reading. He just said he's a millennial.RaceBannon said:
First you should try reading my posts before you make incorrect assumptionsGwad said:
Yes i will TRY, but i am a millennial.RaceBannon said:
Can you try posting something that isn't a pile of shit?Gwad said:Can we please keep personifying economic and political ideologies, but as the way to playfully insult each other please.
Communism fucked @RaceBannon 's mother!!!!! -
Yeeeup!oregonblitzkrieg said:
If someone supports communism, they should be deported to Venezuela to get a first hand look at exactly what it is and how it works.doogie said:Tell them to rent Killing Fields
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Exactly.RaceBannon said:APAG is right to a degree. Millennials I have been around definitely want to get rich and enjoy the life but they are somewhat like us fabled Boomers in that they also want a social component to life in these United States. Unfettered capitalism is a cold hard master where the losers lose big. So we have this hybrid.
It is also true that you can't have communism without the slaughter of the millions who won't go for it. Happens every time. I have always been a staunch anti communist because when i was young and wanting to change the world I wanted to make it better, not worse
Its cold war thinking to think that in order to make capitalism better we need social or communism. Believe it or not our system is constantly inventing this hybrid mix.
Though I'm partial to the cold hard (it's hard) master because I know I will always be on the right end of it, as will my progeny.
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The broken clock tells the right time. Nice job dipshit. Your next opportunity comes in exactly 12 hours. Be ready.salemcoog said:No other Economic system has pulled people out of poverty.
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Technically, she used a strap-on on me but that's a minor detail.2001400ex said:
Who didn't fuck race's mother.Gwad said:Can we please keep personifying economic and political ideologies as the status quo to playfully insult each other please.
Communism fucked @RaceBannon 's mother!!!!!
There were worse ways to lose one's virginity.
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Nothing wrong with a good pegging.PurpleThrobber said:
Technically, she used a strap-on on me but that's a minor detail.2001400ex said:
Who didn't fuck race's mother.Gwad said:Can we please keep personifying economic and political ideologies as the status quo to playfully insult each other please.
Communism fucked @RaceBannon 's mother!!!!!
There were worse ways to lose one's virginity. -
Hayek talked about imperfect - I prefer the Hayek closer to perfect
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Sometimes posts just need to be quoted for the sheer awesomeness of the cleavage. This is one of those posts.LebamDawg said:Hayek talked about imperfect - I prefer the Hayek closer to perfect
