THE PLAYOFF SHOULD BE 8
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Dennis has chinned himself approximately 30 times in this thread alone.
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I only do it when I feel like I'm not getting the credit I deserve.Swaye said:Dennis has chinned himself approximately 30 times in this thread alone.
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So it's a cry for validation type thing? I dig it.Dennis_DeYoung said:
I only do it when I feel like I'm not getting the credit I deserve.Swaye said:Dennis has chinned himself approximately 30 times in this thread alone.
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Sometimes masturbating is more fun than getting laid - you have to get dressed, etc, go out etc... It's the same principle.Swaye said:
So it's a cry for validation type thing? I dig it.Dennis_DeYoung said:
I only do it when I feel like I'm not getting the credit I deserve.Swaye said:Dennis has chinned himself approximately 30 times in this thread alone.
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You could certainly say it's a faster strategy with guaranteed returns.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Sometimes masturbating is more fun than getting laid - you have to get dressed, etc, go out etc... It's the same principle.Swaye said:
So it's a cry for validation type thing? I dig it.Dennis_DeYoung said:
I only do it when I feel like I'm not getting the credit I deserve.Swaye said:Dennis has chinned himself approximately 30 times in this thread alone.
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And in some cases in the NFL, you have the 2 best teams in the same conference and they meet in the conference playoffs like Seattle vs. San Fran in the NFC Championship game.Dennis_DeYoung said:
THIS IS WHY I FUCKING HATE PEOPLE THAT WANT PLAYOFFS...YellowSnow said:
Christ - there's no bad ideas in a brain storming session. There are some aspects of yours which I really like- i.e., using the old ways to whittle things down to a semi-final. This is great. But I feel like everyone would be pissing and moaning that some teams would have a far easier path based on first round match up- e.g., if really good Big 10 team got a Pac 12 cup cake.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Jesus fucking Christ.YellowSnow said:
For starters it would lead to 15 post season games that all matter AND that I would want to watch on TV. This is a hell of lot more than we can say about the current model. The current bowl system is already so devalued, part of me want to just say fuck it an go NFL style. I know GA/OU or PSU/USC made for great TV, but those weren't true GDOTA Bowl Game. Regular season still matters a shit ton because seeding (i.e., home field advantage is all important). Win your conference and you are guaranteed a top 5 seed.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Why is that superior to this system? Other than getting rid of the bowls and totally devaluing the regular season - what does it accomplish?YellowSnow said:Fuck 4 or 8. They both suck a BFC. Either go back to the old ways (not an option) or full on FCS style 16 team play-off. I want my home playoff game in December in Husky Stadium damn it!
The whole fucking logic is 'do it on the field', right!?!?!?
WELL THEN WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT SEEDING!?!? If you can't beat Bama in the first round it's unlikely you will beat them later. It makes no fucking difference when teams play. The idea that the final game is always the best two teams is FS.
It's not that way now and it never has been. The only way that kind of thing makes sense is when you have a structure with two separate divisions (like in the NFL).
The main fucking special thing about CFB is the bowls. Americans are so fucking stupid they want to ruin everything for the 'appearance' of shit.
PLAYOFF ARE NOT FUCKING GOOD AT DETERMINING WHO IS BEST. THEY ARE NOT.
They are good at determining who is the hottest team at the end of the season, possibly, to about 70% accuracy.
FML.
If you get great matchups early due to the bowl tie in system then fucking great. You get to watch all the great matchups, who cares if they play in the 1st round or 3rd as long as we get to watch.
CBS Sports had an article today talking about the move to 8 teams. 2 things stood out in the article.
First, like @Dennis_DeYoung said, this shit ain't going back, there's too much involved in it. ESPN will potentially pay $10 billion to keep the playoffs on their next contract.
Second, some ass clown was quoted as saying something like "there's no easy to figure out how to make it 8 teams. I almost had an aneurysm when I read that.
I'd link the article but KOMO buttfucker. -
That would kick so much ass. A modicum of 1 v 2 whilst preserving the best of our Peculiar Chinstitution.Dennis_DeYoung said:
This is easily the case. Just have the bowls then do the current system on the final two.YellowSnow said:
Duh. Coors Banquet Beers kicks Bud's ass. The boy's are thirsty in Atlanta and there's (Coors Beer) in Texarkana and we'll bring it back no matter what it takes.Dennis_DeYoung said:
College football is easily the best sport in America because of its idiosyncrasies and regionality.YellowSnow said:I assure you Dennis that in an NFL hating competition, I can hold my own with anyone here. And there's a hell of a lot more than just(now diminished) Bowls which make CF a far better product than the NFL:
For example:
- Better tailgates
- Better Fans
- Better pageantry
- Better (non generic) stadiums
- More exciting games and varying schemes
- TBSing
- Try hard kids of all population groups playing for the love of the game and a free education
I can go on and on.
Pro football is a boring sport for people who like to get in heated debates about which corporate business is better than the other:
Nike vs. Adidas
Coors vs. Bud
McDonald's vs. Burger King
etc.
Look, I think your proposed solution has a lot of merit. Sometimes, my inner nihilist just says fuck it and go faggy NFL style, which would have some cool matchups that we don't normally get to see- e.g., #4 UW hosting #12 Okie Light in Seattle in 2016.
The best solution - which no one ever talks about - is to just play all the bowls, old timey style and all and have the AP vote #1 and #2 and have those teams play a game for those that care 2 weeks later. This is how we beat @creepycoug to win our undisputed NT in 1991. https://www.si.com/vault/1992/01/13/125776/the-dream-game-would-you-believe-it-washington-beat-miami-in-the-battle-of-two-no-1s
There is literally no good reason why to not do it this way...
When I was FUCKING NINE YEARS OLD... I said 'Mom, there should be a bowl called the Cherry Bowl (great idea, I admit) where the top two vote getters in the AP play and they should do it the week in before the Superb Owl when no one plays'.
FUCK THE WORLD. -
I vote for the following:Dennis_DeYoung said:
College football is easily the best sport in America because of its idiosyncrasies and regionality.YellowSnow said:I assure you Dennis that in an NFL hating competition, I can hold my own with anyone here. And there's a hell of a lot more than just(now diminished) Bowls which make CF a far better product than the NFL:
For example:
- Better tailgates
- Better Fans
- Better pageantry
- Better (non generic) stadiums
- More exciting games and varying schemes
- TBSing
- Try hard kids of all population groups playing for the love of the game and a free education
I can go on and on.
Pro football is a boring sport for people who like to get in heated debates about which corporate business is better than the other:
Nike vs. Adidas
Coors vs. Bud
McDonald's vs. Burger King
etc.
Nike
Coors
BK -
GrundleStiltzkin said:
That would kick so much ass. A modicum of 1 v 2 whilst preserving the best of our Peculiar Chinstitution.Dennis_DeYoung said:
This is easily the case. Just have the bowls then do the current system on the final two.YellowSnow said:
Duh. Coors Banquet Beers kicks Bud's ass. The boy's are thirsty in Atlanta and there's (Coors Beer) in Texarkana and we'll bring it back no matter what it takes.Dennis_DeYoung said:
College football is easily the best sport in America because of its idiosyncrasies and regionality.YellowSnow said:I assure you Dennis that in an NFL hating competition, I can hold my own with anyone here. And there's a hell of a lot more than just(now diminished) Bowls which make CF a far better product than the NFL:
For example:
- Better tailgates
- Better Fans
- Better pageantry
- Better (non generic) stadiums
- More exciting games and varying schemes
- TBSing
- Try hard kids of all population groups playing for the love of the game and a free education
I can go on and on.
Pro football is a boring sport for people who like to get in heated debates about which corporate business is better than the other:
Nike vs. Adidas
Coors vs. Bud
McDonald's vs. Burger King
etc.
Look, I think your proposed solution has a lot of merit. Sometimes, my inner nihilist just says fuck it and go faggy NFL style, which would have some cool matchups that we don't normally get to see- e.g., #4 UW hosting #12 Okie Light in Seattle in 2016.
The best solution - which no one ever talks about - is to just play all the bowls, old timey style and all and have the AP vote #1 and #2 and have those teams play a game for those that care 2 weeks later. This is how we beat @creepycoug to win our undisputed NT in 1991. https://www.si.com/vault/1992/01/13/125776/the-dream-game-would-you-believe-it-washington-beat-miami-in-the-battle-of-two-no-1s
There is literally no good reason why to not do it this way...
When I was FUCKING NINE YEARS OLD... I said 'Mom, there should be a bowl called the Cherry Bowl (great idea, I admit) where the top two vote getters in the AP play and they should do it the week in before the Superb Owl when no one plays'.
FUCK THE WORLD.
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MODS ARE CHINNING THEIR OWN POASTS, DEVS???!?
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If I was ever given the powers of modulation I would chin so many of my own posts it would make your dick spin.
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That's absurd. How will we justify a handful of millionaires collecting $500,000 salaries to determine "Whose in?" under that system?Dennis_DeYoung said:Why is it so hard?
Here are the three simple qualifications:
1. Win your P5 conference.
2. G5 teams that go undefeated are auto-bids (if there are more than three than just use the fucking committee to rank).
3. Fill the rest with at-larges from the current committee system.
Don't allow teams from the same conference to play in the at-large game.
This has the advantage of
a) preserving classic bowl ties
b) preserving the meaning of every game in CFB
c) allows for this stupid power ranking bullshit every year that people seem to love, although I think it's FS
d) allows for the shit challengers from G5 to get proper fucked, but have a great story to get there.
e) add intrigue and fun as we don't know how many at-large teams will be selected.
First round (J1)
Rose: B1G vs. Pac-12
Orange: ACC vs. Big XII
Sugar: SEC vs. AL3
Fiesta: AL1 vs. AL2
Second round (J8)
Peach & Cotton with the same rules as now, committee ranks, highest seeds play closest to home.
Third round (J15)
Rotate locations on a bid process like the Superp Owl... or whatever. Possibly it should be played the week between the divisional championships and the Superb Owl.
2014
Rose: Ohio State vs. Oregon
Orange: FSU vs. Baylor
Sugar: Bama vs. Michigan State
Fiesta: TCU vs. Mississippi State
2015
Rose: Michigan State vs. Stanford
Orange: Clemson vs. Oklahoma
Sugar: Bama vs. Ohio State
Fiesta: Iowa vs. Notre Dame
2016
Rose: Penn State vs. UW
Orange: Clemson vs. Oklahoma
Sugar: Bama vs. Michigan
Fiesta: Ohio State vs. Western Michigan
2017
Rose: Ohio State vs. USC
Orange: Clemson vs. Oklahoma
Sugar: UGA vs. UCF
Fiesta: Bama vs. Wisconsin
AND OTHER YEARS WE ALL CARE ABOUT:
2000
Rose: Purdue vs. UW
Orange: Miami vs. Oklahoma
Sugar: Florida vs. Va Tech
Fiesta: FSU vs. Oregon State
1991
Rose: Michigan vs. UW
Orange: Miami vs. A&M
Sugar: Florida vs. Iowa
Fiesta: FSU vs. Penn State
1984
Rose: Ohio State vs. USC
Orange: Boston College vs. Oklahoma
Sugar: Florida vs. BYU
Fiesta: Washington vs. Nebraska -
SEC getting an at large every year is a terrible idea. Otherwise I'm down with this plan.
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Frankly, I like it best the way it was, and that's because it's the way it was. I like most things the way they were, because that's the way they were.
It was better with the random tie-in bowls (Orange Big 8, open; Rose Pac, Big, etc.).
It was more fun to argue about it. Who needs objectivity? Who cares? It gives smart and stupid people alike something to do.
I also wish there were more powerful independents. Those that played hard as nails schedules and went around mixing shit up to go along with old conference ties. It was messy, like an Italian kitchen. It was good.
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Just register another handle and have it open in a different browser to chin your own shit like the rest of us do.Swaye said:If I was ever given the powers of modulation I would chin so many of my own posts it would make your dick spin.
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Anyone here who wouldn't rank January 1st, 1992 as their greatest sports viewing day of all time needs to LEAVE! Cal won a Citrus Party Bowl over Cimpson for crying out loud. I didn't even care that Miami beat Tom Osborne for the like the infinityeth time; we were National Champs before they even kicked off that game in the REAL Orange Bowl.creepycoug said:Frankly, I like it best the way it was, and that's because it's the way it was. I like most things the way they were, because that's the way they were.
It was better with the random tie-in bowls (Orange Big 8, open; Rose Pac, Big, etc.).
It was more fun to argue about it. Who needs objectivity? Who cares? It gives smart and stupid people alike something to do.
I also wish there were more powerful independents. Those that played hard as nails schedules and went around mixing shit up to go along with old conference ties. It was messy, like an Italian kitchen. It was good.
GUOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -
I'm just posting this to chin my own post, carry on.
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Bowl tie ins lead to oranges being thrown on the field and roses being passed out in the stands. That's all that matters.
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Yeah, why not have Jude and his counterparts decide who plays for the natty, right?Dennis_DeYoung said:
This is easily the case. Just have the bowls then do the current system on the final two.YellowSnow said:
Duh. Coors Banquet Beers kicks Bud's ass. The boy's are thirsty in Atlanta and there's (Coors Beer) in Texarkana and we'll bring it back no matter what it takes.Dennis_DeYoung said:
College football is easily the best sport in America because of its idiosyncrasies and regionality.YellowSnow said:I assure you Dennis that in an NFL hating competition, I can hold my own with anyone here. And there's a hell of a lot more than just(now diminished) Bowls which make CF a far better product than the NFL:
For example:
- Better tailgates
- Better Fans
- Better pageantry
- Better (non generic) stadiums
- More exciting games and varying schemes
- TBSing
- Try hard kids of all population groups playing for the love of the game and a free education
I can go on and on.
Pro football is a boring sport for people who like to get in heated debates about which corporate business is better than the other:
Nike vs. Adidas
Coors vs. Bud
McDonald's vs. Burger King
etc.
Look, I think your proposed solution has a lot of merit. Sometimes, my inner nihilist just says fuck it and go faggy NFL style, which would have some cool matchups that we don't normally get to see- e.g., #4 UW hosting #12 Okie Light in Seattle in 2016.
The best solution - which no one ever talks about - is to just play all the bowls, old timey style and all and have the AP vote #1 and #2 and have those teams play a game for those that care 2 weeks later. This is how we beat @creepycoug to win our undisputed NT in 1991. https://www.si.com/vault/1992/01/13/125776/the-dream-game-would-you-believe-it-washington-beat-miami-in-the-battle-of-two-no-1s
There is literally no good reason why to not do it this way...
When I was FUCKING NINE YEARS OLD... I said 'Mom, there should be a bowl called the Cherry Bowl (great idea, I admit) where the top two vote getters in the AP play and they should do it the week in before the Superb Owl when no one plays'.
FUCK THE WORLD. -
THIS. Knowing what you are playing for and where you are going is so fucking cool. When we won the conference last year in fucking Santa Clara our fans should have all had roses out and players waving them around and we could book our trips immediately. Would have been amazing.Dennis_DeYoung said:Bowl tie ins lead to oranges being thrown on the field and roses being passed out in the stands. That's all that matters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgpH3znMn2s -
I mean, it's really not that hard. This year for instance, it easily would have been Bama and Georgia for their season and their bowl games.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
Yeah, why not have Jude and his counterparts decide who plays for the natty, right?Dennis_DeYoung said:
This is easily the case. Just have the bowls then do the current system on the final two.YellowSnow said:
Duh. Coors Banquet Beers kicks Bud's ass. The boy's are thirsty in Atlanta and there's (Coors Beer) in Texarkana and we'll bring it back no matter what it takes.Dennis_DeYoung said:
College football is easily the best sport in America because of its idiosyncrasies and regionality.YellowSnow said:I assure you Dennis that in an NFL hating competition, I can hold my own with anyone here. And there's a hell of a lot more than just(now diminished) Bowls which make CF a far better product than the NFL:
For example:
- Better tailgates
- Better Fans
- Better pageantry
- Better (non generic) stadiums
- More exciting games and varying schemes
- TBSing
- Try hard kids of all population groups playing for the love of the game and a free education
I can go on and on.
Pro football is a boring sport for people who like to get in heated debates about which corporate business is better than the other:
Nike vs. Adidas
Coors vs. Bud
McDonald's vs. Burger King
etc.
Look, I think your proposed solution has a lot of merit. Sometimes, my inner nihilist just says fuck it and go faggy NFL style, which would have some cool matchups that we don't normally get to see- e.g., #4 UW hosting #12 Okie Light in Seattle in 2016.
The best solution - which no one ever talks about - is to just play all the bowls, old timey style and all and have the AP vote #1 and #2 and have those teams play a game for those that care 2 weeks later. This is how we beat @creepycoug to win our undisputed NT in 1991. https://www.si.com/vault/1992/01/13/125776/the-dream-game-would-you-believe-it-washington-beat-miami-in-the-battle-of-two-no-1s
There is literally no good reason why to not do it this way...
When I was FUCKING NINE YEARS OLD... I said 'Mom, there should be a bowl called the Cherry Bowl (great idea, I admit) where the top two vote getters in the AP play and they should do it the week in before the Superb Owl when no one plays'.
FUCK THE WORLD. -
Swaye said:
If I was ever given the powers of modulation I would chin so many of my own posts it would make your dick spin.
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very close...
Just need to add a few small qualifiers:
1) requirement for no FCS (division 2 or whatever its called now) games
2) required minimum 9 conference games for the P5 teams
3) must play atleast one non conference P5 team to be eligible -
These are great additions. I would modify 1 to say 'must have 12 games non FCS'. The FCS stuff is different in different parts of the country, but in the South, a lot of programs make their whole nut for the year by playing up.Houhusky said:very close...
Just need to add a few small qualifiers:
1) requirement for no FCS (division 2 or whatever its called now) games
2) required minimum 9 conference games for the P5 teams
3) must play atleast one non conference P5 team to be eligible
It would sabotage a lot of decent FCS schools to take away their ability to play one game 'up'. -
I like these, and will expand it...Houhusky said:very close...
Just need to add a few small qualifiers:
1) requirement for no FCS (division 2 or whatever its called now) games
2) required minimum 9 conference games for the P5 teams
3) must play atleast one non conference P5 team to be eligible
The P5 needs to tell everyone to fuck off and hire a schedule maker. The idea of teams creating their own schedules is fucking stupid.
What I would do:
Make all 5 leagues have even number of teams (14)
Every school either plays a FCS (these games are crucial for a lot of FCS programs) or none do. I'd lean to every team plays one.
The schedule is rotating based on conference records/strength each year (strongest conference this year plays weakest the next year and rank it down, or some order) OR it's just rotated over a 6 year schedule (Pac v. SEC in 2017, PAC v. SEC in 2018, PAC v. BIG 2019). You play two teams from the opposing conference, one at home one away (based on records) and it flips the next year.
All teams go to 9 conference games.
Schedule would look like this for EVERYONE: FCS, P5 Home, P5 Away, 9 Conference games.
This would allow for fans to know what is happening with their schedule and get excited by it. "Oh shit, Alabama beat Georgia this week, that means if we win out, next year we will get Georgia at home!!! How cool!" -
Sounds realistic. When do we start to implement these changes and how can I help?CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
I like these, and will expand it...Houhusky said:very close...
Just need to add a few small qualifiers:
1) requirement for no FCS (division 2 or whatever its called now) games
2) required minimum 9 conference games for the P5 teams
3) must play atleast one non conference P5 team to be eligible
The P5 needs to tell everyone to fuck off and hire a schedule maker. The idea of teams creating their own schedules is fucking stupid.
What I would do:
Make all 5 leagues have even number of teams (14)
Every school either plays a FCS (these games are crucial for a lot of FCS programs) or none do. I'd lean to every team plays one.
The schedule is rotating based on conference records/strength each year (strongest conference this year plays weakest the next year and rank it down, or some order) OR it's just rotated over a 6 year schedule (Pac v. SEC in 2017, PAC v. SEC in 2018, PAC v. BIG 2019). You play two teams from the opposing conference, one at home one away (based on records) and it flips the next year.
All teams go to 9 conference games.
Schedule would look like this for EVERYONE: FCS, P5 Home, P5 Away, 9 Conference games.
This would allow for fans to know what is happening with their schedule and get excited by it. "Oh shit, Alabama beat Georgia this week, that means if we win out, next year we will get Georgia at home!!! How cool!" -
First of all, we kill all the lawyersDennis_DeYoung said:
Sounds realistic. When do we start to implement these changes and how can I help?CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
I like these, and will expand it...Houhusky said:very close...
Just need to add a few small qualifiers:
1) requirement for no FCS (division 2 or whatever its called now) games
2) required minimum 9 conference games for the P5 teams
3) must play atleast one non conference P5 team to be eligible
The P5 needs to tell everyone to fuck off and hire a schedule maker. The idea of teams creating their own schedules is fucking stupid.
What I would do:
Make all 5 leagues have even number of teams (14)
Every school either plays a FCS (these games are crucial for a lot of FCS programs) or none do. I'd lean to every team plays one.
The schedule is rotating based on conference records/strength each year (strongest conference this year plays weakest the next year and rank it down, or some order) OR it's just rotated over a 6 year schedule (Pac v. SEC in 2017, PAC v. SEC in 2018, PAC v. BIG 2019). You play two teams from the opposing conference, one at home one away (based on records) and it flips the next year.
All teams go to 9 conference games.
Schedule would look like this for EVERYONE: FCS, P5 Home, P5 Away, 9 Conference games.
This would allow for fans to know what is happening with their schedule and get excited by it. "Oh shit, Alabama beat Georgia this week, that means if we win out, next year we will get Georgia at home!!! How cool!" -
Extend it to 8, but disagree with everything else. Discard all previous bowl ties. Why should the PAC 12 be forced to play a team from the BIG 10 in the first round every fucking year? Boring. Mix it up. Would rather see PAC teams face a wider variety of teams from other conferences in big games.
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Checks out.RaceBannon said:
First of all, we kill all the lawyersDennis_DeYoung said:
Sounds realistic. When do we start to implement these changes and how can I help?CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
I like these, and will expand it...Houhusky said:very close...
Just need to add a few small qualifiers:
1) requirement for no FCS (division 2 or whatever its called now) games
2) required minimum 9 conference games for the P5 teams
3) must play atleast one non conference P5 team to be eligible
The P5 needs to tell everyone to fuck off and hire a schedule maker. The idea of teams creating their own schedules is fucking stupid.
What I would do:
Make all 5 leagues have even number of teams (14)
Every school either plays a FCS (these games are crucial for a lot of FCS programs) or none do. I'd lean to every team plays one.
The schedule is rotating based on conference records/strength each year (strongest conference this year plays weakest the next year and rank it down, or some order) OR it's just rotated over a 6 year schedule (Pac v. SEC in 2017, PAC v. SEC in 2018, PAC v. BIG 2019). You play two teams from the opposing conference, one at home one away (based on records) and it flips the next year.
All teams go to 9 conference games.
Schedule would look like this for EVERYONE: FCS, P5 Home, P5 Away, 9 Conference games.
This would allow for fans to know what is happening with their schedule and get excited by it. "Oh shit, Alabama beat Georgia this week, that means if we win out, next year we will get Georgia at home!!! How cool!"
