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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    AZDuck said:

    doogie said:

    No, it isn't. But you go ahead and keep telling yourself that if it will avoid another triggered meltdown.

    So why are they kneeling then? I don't really give a fuck about the NFL.
    It depends on who gets interviewed. Dozens of reasons cited so far, many contradictory.

    #united
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    doogie said:

    AZDuck said:

    doogie said:

    No, it isn't. But you go ahead and keep telling yourself that if it will avoid another triggered meltdown.

    So why are they kneeling then? I don't really give a fuck about the NFL.
    It depends on who gets interviewed. Dozens of reasons cited so far, many contradictory.

    #united
    Imagine that. Different people having different points of view.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    All that kneeling and hatred for the Country yet nobody can tell us why
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club

    Why?

    It would be nice if that was discussed somewhere other than here.

    It's a national discussion that could be handled rather easily

    Dardanus makes some charts. Stats are broken down and the truth is found.

    Big or small problem it then gets addressed. Civilian control of the police is important

    Once we have this discussion we can move to what many of us perceive as larger issues

    Fair warning, it won't be just blame whitey.

    This fucked up bored is at least smart enough to know it's isn't about the anthem or kneeling or unity.

    It's about race in America. Stop talking process and let's get down to it.

    3 hours of prime time all networks

    Careful ...
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    edited September 2017
    AZDuck said:

    Dude61 said:

    If you want to focus on solving the problems in the inner city, police brutality is way down the list.

    Crime rate. Gangs. Drugs. Fatherless homes. Unsafe neighborhoods—making education highly difficult. The export of jobs overseas, exacerbating poverty. A hostile refusal from many quarters to support local leaders who exemplify self-sufficiency of the individual and the community.

    No one at the federal level actually aims to eradicate life-sapping chronic conditions in inner cities. Rather, the plan is to expand the number of people who are dependent on government for the length of their lives.

    Colin Kaepernick is a dullard and a dupe, focusing attention away from the real problems in the inner city.

    It’s much easier to blame everything on police shootings. People can read about them and hear about them and nod and say, “Yes, this is why inner cities are destitute. This is THE core reason.”

    Some people are happier in their delusions.

    A lot of black people who have been killed by cops don't live in inner cities. Not all black people are poor.

    And what do you care, police brutality is statistically much less likely to affect you. You want to raise consciousness about inner-city problems and the black underclass, be my guest. There's lots of people and organizations out there that could probably use some help.

    But people have the right to speak out, to protest, don't they?

    I thought free speech was a big deal for the right these days?

    These last two sentences are a cop-out. Logical fallacy.

    Pun intended.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    pawz said:

    AZDuck said:

    Dude61 said:

    If you want to focus on solving the problems in the inner city, police brutality is way down the list.

    Crime rate. Gangs. Drugs. Fatherless homes. Unsafe neighborhoods—making education highly difficult. The export of jobs overseas, exacerbating poverty. A hostile refusal from many quarters to support local leaders who exemplify self-sufficiency of the individual and the community.

    No one at the federal level actually aims to eradicate life-sapping chronic conditions in inner cities. Rather, the plan is to expand the number of people who are dependent on government for the length of their lives.

    Colin Kaepernick is a dullard and a dupe, focusing attention away from the real problems in the inner city.

    It’s much easier to blame everything on police shootings. People can read about them and hear about them and nod and say, “Yes, this is why inner cities are destitute. This is THE core reason.”

    Some people are happier in their delusions.

    A lot of black people who have been killed by cops don't live in inner cities. Not all black people are poor.

    And what do you care, police brutality is statistically much less likely to affect you. You want to raise consciousness about inner-city problems and the black underclass, be my guest. There's lots of people and organizations out there that could probably use some help.

    But people have the right to speak out, to protest, don't they?

    I thought free speech was a big deal for the right these days?

    These last two sentences are a cop-out. Logical fallacy.

    Pun intended.
    No, they're a trap.

    Of course the NFL could shit-can them for protesting on the company dime. But they won't. And that's why everyone is engaged in autistic screeching around here.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,527 Standard Supporter
    pawz said:

    Why?

    It would be nice if that was discussed somewhere other than here.

    It's a national discussion that could be handled rather easily

    Dardanus makes some charts. Stats are broken down and the truth is found.

    Big or small problem it then gets addressed. Civilian control of the police is important

    Once we have this discussion we can move to what many of us perceive as larger issues

    Fair warning, it won't be just blame whitey.

    This fucked up bored is at least smart enough to know it's isn't about the anthem or kneeling or unity.

    It's about race in America. Stop talking process and let's get down to it.

    3 hours of prime time all networks

    Careful ...
    People watch network TV still?

  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    Why?

    It would be nice if that was discussed somewhere other than here.

    It's a national discussion that could be handled rather easily

    Dardanus makes some charts. Stats are broken down and the truth is found.

    Big or small problem it then gets addressed. Civilian control of the police is important

    Once we have this discussion we can move to what many of us perceive as larger issues

    Fair warning, it won't be just blame whitey.

    This fucked up bored is at least smart enough to know it's isn't about the anthem or kneeling or unity.

    It's about race in America. Stop talking process and let's get down to it.

    3 hours of prime time all networks

    It's always about Race with you