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Julius Irvin, 4* 2018 DB, Anaheim (Servite), CA (COMMITTED)

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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    edited September 2017
    BallzDeep said:

    dhdawg said:

    biggins' article said he was being recruited as a CB.

    And he has the tools to play both boundary and field corner, but has played mainly safety in high school from what I've seen. The fact that he plays the run well would make him good at boundary, but you usually want to put a slower guy like Hampton there. The fact that he can play free safety and corner means he'd also be great in the Rapp/Budda role of deep safety and nickel, which is what I alluded to in saying that Rapp will leave early for the NFL, and those types are rare.

    Either way, the fact that he's long and a rare athlete who is versatile enough to line up anywhere in our secondary should tell you what kind of prospect he is, and where they're recruiting him to play doesn't really matter, because they'll try him at multiple spots and find the right one if they can just get him in the bulding. And they really should do everything they can to get him.
    Hampton runs a 10.8 100 M. Not sure he's a "slower guy"
    Game speed might be slower. King was faster than Jones, but played the game slower than him
  • NorwegianHusky
    NorwegianHusky Member Posts: 3,425
    BallzDeep said:

    dhdawg said:

    biggins' article said he was being recruited as a CB.

    And he has the tools to play both boundary and field corner, but has played mainly safety in high school from what I've seen. The fact that he plays the run well would make him good at boundary, but you usually want to put a slower guy like Hampton there. The fact that he can play free safety and corner means he'd also be great in the Rapp/Budda role of deep safety and nickel, which is what I alluded to in saying that Rapp will leave early for the NFL, and those types are rare.

    Either way, the fact that he's long and a rare athlete who is versatile enough to line up anywhere in our secondary should tell you what kind of prospect he is, and where they're recruiting him to play doesn't really matter, because they'll try him at multiple spots and find the right one if they can just get him in the bulding. And they really should do everything they can to get him.
    Hampton runs a 10.8 100 M. Not sure he's a "slower guy"
    Great. Put him of the fucking track team. Irvin is quicker/more sudden.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    RealRhino said:

    If you are thinking ND, what does it matter how early you play when the next coach you get after Kelly gets fired decides you're not his kind of guy and you don't play at all?

    How 'bout go somewhere you know the coach ain't going to get FIRED. So that rules out ND, UCLA, USC, ASU, Arizona, etc. SHOULD rule out Stanford, but when fewer people care about the football team than listen to the TSIO podcast, why bother firing the coach?

    Truer words have never been spoken
  • NorwegianHusky
    NorwegianHusky Member Posts: 3,425
    BallzDeep said:

    BallzDeep said:

    dhdawg said:

    biggins' article said he was being recruited as a CB.

    And he has the tools to play both boundary and field corner, but has played mainly safety in high school from what I've seen. The fact that he plays the run well would make him good at boundary, but you usually want to put a slower guy like Hampton there. The fact that he can play free safety and corner means he'd also be great in the Rapp/Budda role of deep safety and nickel, which is what I alluded to in saying that Rapp will leave early for the NFL, and those types are rare.

    Either way, the fact that he's long and a rare athlete who is versatile enough to line up anywhere in our secondary should tell you what kind of prospect he is, and where they're recruiting him to play doesn't really matter, because they'll try him at multiple spots and find the right one if they can just get him in the bulding. And they really should do everything they can to get him.
    Hampton runs a 10.8 100 M. Not sure he's a "slower guy"
    Great. Put him of the fucking track team. Irvin is quicker/more sudden.
    No he's not.
    Great chinsight. Thanks.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,673 Founders Club
    I hope he enjoyed watching a good defense in a losing effort
  • NorwegianHusky
    NorwegianHusky Member Posts: 3,425
    JECAR said:

    Who the fuck wants to play for Harbaugh? His glasses are gayer than aids.

    Gayer than his son, you mean.
  • Neighbor2972
    Neighbor2972 Member Posts: 4,330
    Just got 4 Crystal Balls to USC. I assumed he was all Notre Dame, so this interesting. If USC got ITS, Crosswell, Hufanga and Irvin that would be ridiculous, but would also mean they probably wouldn't take Halid Djibril who we would have a great shot at.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    a guy I know on the staff said that the depth chart concern while dumb is a huge problem with him.
    just not happening
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    edited November 2017
    dhdawg said:

    a guy I know on the staff said that the depth chart concern while dumb is a huge problem with him.
    just not happening

    so you telling me that UW has better DB that USC. That is fucking stupid. Our DB are not better from talent point of view, it is just that they are coached and developed better that USC DBs.
  • FKA_Mousecop
    FKA_Mousecop Member Posts: 2,054

    dhdawg said:

    a guy I know on the staff said that the depth chart concern while dumb is a huge problem with him.
    just not happening

    so you telling me that USC has better DB that UW. That is fucking stupid. Our DB are not better from talent point of view, it is just that they are coached and developed better that USC DBs.
    Yeah he'll be just as far back in the depth chart. It'll be just as hard for him to crack the starting lineup, the catch is he ends up as a worse player.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    dhdawg said:

    a guy I know on the staff said that the depth chart concern while dumb is a huge problem with him.
    just not happening

    so you telling me that USC has better DB that UW. That is fucking stupid. Our DB are not better from talent point of view, it is just that they are coached and developed better that USC DBs.
    Yeah he'll be just as far back in the depth chart. It'll be just as hard for him to crack the starting lineup, the catch is he ends up as a worse player.
    you would think his father would provide some fucking guidance in a situation like this. We have a fucking 5'8 walk-on starring as a corner that this fucking doing a great job. That is not fucking talent, but hard and coaching.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    Recruiting is sales. Purchasing is not about truth, but about what we believe.

    What we believe, we do for reasons often unrelated to the truth.

    You think it’s better to be coached in CP’s system than Helton’s? Yeah me too. But NOGAF. We get out-sold a lot. Right now, I’d say we are recruiting at like 40% of what we’re capable of.

    I think we weren’t trying to hard close kids this year because of the snafus with Marlon and Wedington. We have to LIPO, but I’m not optimistic.

    That is bullshit. They should be pushing hard to close these kids. So what if you lose one or 2 kids a year.
  • BaldwinIV
    BaldwinIV Member Posts: 797

    Recruiting is sales. Purchasing is not about truth, but about what we believe.

    What we believe, we do for reasons often unrelated to the truth.

    You think it’s better to be coached in CP’s system than Helton’s? Yeah me too. But NOGAF. We get out-sold a lot. Right now, I’d say we are recruiting at like 40% of what we’re capable of.

    I think we weren’t trying to hard close kids this year because of the snafus with Marlon and Wedington. We have to LIPO, but I’m not optimistic.

    That is bullshit. They should be pushing hard to close these kids. So what if you lose one or 2 kids a year.
    please post less
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    BaldwinIV said:

    Recruiting is sales. Purchasing is not about truth, but about what we believe.

    What we believe, we do for reasons often unrelated to the truth.

    You think it’s better to be coached in CP’s system than Helton’s? Yeah me too. But NOGAF. We get out-sold a lot. Right now, I’d say we are recruiting at like 40% of what we’re capable of.

    I think we weren’t trying to hard close kids this year because of the snafus with Marlon and Wedington. We have to LIPO, but I’m not optimistic.

    That is bullshit. They should be pushing hard to close these kids. So what if you lose one or 2 kids a year.
    please post less
    Please suck on my nutz
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Recruiting is sales. Purchasing is not about truth, but about what we believe.

    What we believe, we do for reasons often unrelated to the truth.

    You think it’s better to be coached in CP’s system than Helton’s? Yeah me too. But NOGAF. We get out-sold a lot. Right now, I’d say we are recruiting at like 40% of what we’re capable of.

    I think we weren’t trying to hard close kids this year because of the snafus with Marlon and Wedington. We have to LIPO, but I’m not optimistic.

    While I don’t disagree, it’s hard for me to not feel like the depth issues are likely true and he’s looking for reasons to not go to UW otherwise he’d already have given a verbal ...

    If there’s a positive it’s that he hasn’t given a verbal elsewhere ...

    My take is that he likes UW best but sees the depth ... he sees others with better depth situations that he doesn’t like the rest of the package enough ... probably going to come down to what trade offs he wants to make as there isn’t a perfect option in his mind as of yet
  • jhfstyle24
    jhfstyle24 Member Posts: 3,255

    Dennis is right. Recruiting guys are always talking about playing time or girls or tradition but sales is an emotional response

    You can try to tell someone to buy that smart car that gets 50 miles to the gallon and they look over at the metallic blue muscle car and its over.

    Close the fucking deal. That's all that counts

    Is it just me or is UW recruiting somewhat softly right now? It seems like we? get pushed out too easily by shittier schools that shouldn't come close in recruiting.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    edited November 2017

    Dennis is right. Recruiting guys are always talking about playing time or girls or tradition but sales is an emotional response

    You can try to tell someone to buy that smart car that gets 50 miles to the gallon and they look over at the metallic blue muscle car and its over.

    Close the fucking deal. That's all that counts

    Bingo. It's fuck or walk.

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  • YouNeed2Chill
    YouNeed2Chill Member Posts: 57

    We get out-sold a lot. Right now, I’d say we are recruiting at like 40% of what we’re capable of.

    Dennis all you do is bitch. Why don't you do something about it? When it comes time you need to somehow get hired as the 10th assistant coach in a tbs'er extraordinaire role.

  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    We get out-sold a lot. Right now, I’d say we are recruiting at like 40% of what we’re capable of.

    Dennis all you do is bitch. Why don't you do something about it? When it comes time you need to somehow get hired as the 10th assistant coach in a tbs'er extraordinaire role.

    I am planning on it.
  • NorwegianHusky
    NorwegianHusky Member Posts: 3,425
    Apropos of nothing, do you guys think Irvin would come to Udub if he could loan a lightly used Maserati while he's here?