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Except that more soldiers were killed by disease in the Civil War than muskets and swords. But a lot of kids died all the same.YellowSnow said:We can all agree on the sacrifices made by the WWII generation but they pale in comparison with what the North had to do to compel the South to give up. The percentage of fighting age males killed in the Civil War was far greater than WWII and the only way for the North to prevail was to bleed the CSA to death, which meant sacrificing a shit ton of boys in Blue.
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Not sure how this contradicts anything I said, but thanksdoogie said:
Not exactly.AZDuck said:
Also disagree. 1860's warfare armies still had to walk and technology greatly favored defending forces. The Confederacy was roughly the size of Western Europe.dnc said:
Depends on how you define accomplishment. In terms of what was more important, preserving the union >>>>> anything else. In terms of what was more difficult, WWII >>>>>>>> anything else.YellowSnow said:
Disagree. Preserving the Union was by far our greatest accomplishment as a country.Mosster47 said:
I agree. It's my favorite part of everything. My grandpa was a belly gunner on a B-17 and one of the air raids he was in is on the Europe side.Pitchfork51 said:
Spy museum is dope.Mosster47 said:The entire National Mall is pretty amazing.
I now have a mission to collect all the bond watches.
But all joking aside....they really did a hell of a job with the WW2 memorial.
Everyone should see it.
WW2 is by far our greatest accomplishment as a country.
The Norf were pretty massive favorites. One could argue taking four years to preserve said union was a pretty massive fuckup on the part of the union.
The US was not an industrialized nation yet. So the country had to go from an army of 16,000 to mobilize an army of over 1,000,000. As an aside, most of the better generals happened to be from the South.
There was also a political aspect. The Norf couldn't just get its ass-kicker on, because it had to be mindful of the wavering loyalty of non-Confederate slave states like Kentucky, Missouri, Maryland, and Delaware. In particular Maryland, because its secession (which almost happened) would have cut DC off from the rest of the Norf.
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I'm against war
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This is true.salemcoog said:
Except that more soldiers were killed by disease in the Civil War than muskets and swords. But a lot of kids died all the same.YellowSnow said:We can all agree on the sacrifices made by the WWII generation but they pale in comparison with what the North had to do to compel the South to give up. The percentage of fighting age males killed in the Civil War was far greater than WWII and the only way for the North to prevail was to bleed the CSA to death, which meant sacrificing a shit ton of boys in Blue.
In WWII we were Yuge favorites over Japan and the Soviets killed about 9 out of 10 German soldiers.
I mean WW2 was more impressive as we weren't ready to fight at all when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. We basically had to unite as a nation, train an enormous ground, sea, and air fighting force along with building all of the equipment they needed to fight the mechanized war required in Germany and the naval war with Japan. We did all of this in a very short time, then set off to fight a two front war across separate oceans. Then you throw in the upgrades in weaponry we made in those years along with making atomic matter a weapon.
Sure, Japan is the size of California and the Germans were fucked once winter hit and Stalingrad held. People forget we had to beat Finland to win the gold medal.
An interesting adage, Finland supported the Nazi's and actually used the swastika during WW2. Of course this didn't end well as Sweden wasn't a Nazi sympathizer and they border with Russia. When we went there last year to fly with their air force in Kuopio we were the first Ally power to do anything with them since before WW2. They still hate Russia, Russia hates them, we hate Russia. It all worked out. -
True, but attributable to the era. Whether or not a soldier died in action or of infection from a lead ball months or weeks later didn't matter much; it was still cannon fodder that had to be expended to get the W.salemcoog said:
Except that more soldiers were killed by disease in the Civil War than muskets and swords. But a lot of kids died all the same.YellowSnow said:We can all agree on the sacrifices made by the WWII generation but they pale in comparison with what the North had to do to compel the South to give up. The percentage of fighting age males killed in the Civil War was far greater than WWII and the only way for the North to prevail was to bleed the CSA to death, which meant sacrificing a shit ton of boys in Blue.
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Funny, everyone knew Hondo was lying when he posted this propaganda thread to begin with.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/03/trump-love-white-house-did-not-call-dump/
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Super glad we got that cleared up.doogie said:Funny, everyone knew Hondo was lying when he posted this propaganda thread to begin with.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/03/trump-love-white-house-did-not-call-dump/ -
I thought you hated John Lennon and now you want to give peace a chance @RaceBannonRaceBannon said:I'm against war
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crispedRaceBannon said:I'm against war but I support the troops
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I just wish that teachers got billions of dollars from the budget and the military had to have bake salesdnc said:
crispedRaceBannon said:I'm against war but I support the troops
