The Epic Battle between Bear Bryant and Don James

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

YellowSnow said:

Who would have been considered a greater coach than James during his '75- '92 tenure?

Bryant - GOAT but only overlapped with the early days of DJ.
Switzer - Had 3 NT's but DJ beat him in the Orange.
Paterno -Disqualified
Schnellenberger - Wasn't around long enough
Holtz - Fuck no
Erickson - Never was in one place long enough; wasn't the one who built Miami into a national power.
Bowden - Hadn't won a NT yet.
Osborne - See above and DJ owned him.

Of the guys that won NT's at non traditional blue bloods- e.g., Bobby Ross, Danny Ford, Edwards, McCartney - Don James had greater long term success than any of these guys.

I'm not going to argue that he was the best coach of his era in CFB, but top 3-4 certainly sounds about right to me. Regarding perception of him outside of the PAC, I wonder how much technology of the age had to do with this. In this day and age, think about much easier it is for the average sports fan and/or member of the national media to have a sense of what it going on in college football outside of their own region. Hell, ESPN Game Day didn't even make it to a regular season game west of Colorado until 1998.

How the fuck did you list two Miami coaches and not include the best one?

backthepack said:

tenndawg said:

YellowSnow said:

Who would have been considered a greater coach than James during his '75- '92 tenure?

Bryant - GOAT but only overlapped with the early days of DJ.
Switzer - Had 3 NT's but DJ beat him in the Orange.
Paterno -Disqualified
Schnellenberger - Wasn't around long enough
Holtz - Fuck no
Erickson - Never was in one place long enough; wasn't the one who built Miami into a national power.
Bowden - Hadn't won a NT yet.
Osborne - See above and DJ owned him.

Of the guys that won NT's at non traditional blue bloods- e.g., Bobby Ross, Danny Ford, Edwards, McCartney - Don James had greater long term success than any of these guys.

I'm not going to argue that he was the best coach of his era in CFB, but top 3-4 certainly sounds about right to me. Regarding perception of him outside of the PAC, I wonder how much technology of the age had to do with this. In this day and age, think about much easier it is for the average sports fan and/or member of the national media to have a sense of what it going on in college football outside of their own region. Hell, ESPN Game Day didn't even make it to a regular season game west of Colorado until 1998.

Very well thought out and artfully crafted - delete immediately and insert a photo of a fat person in pajamas smoking through their neck hole...

I was in Pennsylvania and have a vague recollection of Sonny Sixkiller, who was pre-James, and remember Warren Moon who did play for James

Technology, internet, youtube and ESPN covering so many games definitely makes it easier to follow today - but most kids I'm aware of aren't that interested, they would rather be "gamers" or use social media than follow sports

My generation is a bunch o fags.

backthepack said:

Creep the septule warrior!