The Epic Battle between Bear Bryant and Don James

YellowSnow said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

YellowSnow said:

Who would have been considered a greater coach than James during his '75- '92 tenure?

Bryant - GOAT but only overlapped with the early days of DJ.
Switzer - Had 3 NT's but DJ beat him in the Orange.
Paterno -Disqualified
Schnellenberger - Wasn't around long enough
Holtz - Fuck no
Erickson - Never was in one place long enough; wasn't the one who built Miami into a national power.
Bowden - Hadn't won a NT yet.
Osborne - See above and DJ owned him.

Of the guys that won NT's at non traditional blue bloods- e.g., Bobby Ross, Danny Ford, Edwards, McCartney - Don James had greater long term success than any of these guys.

I'm not going to argue that he was the best coach of his era in CFB, but top 3-4 certainly sounds about right to me. Regarding perception of him outside of the PAC, I wonder how much technology of the age had to do with this. In this day and age, think about much easier it is for the average sports fan and/or member of the national media to have a sense of what it going on in college football outside of their own region. Hell, ESPN Game Day didn't even make it to a regular season game west of Colorado until 1998.

How the fuck did you list two Miami coaches and not include the best one?

Laziness I suppose. Are you saying Johnson over the other 2 based on having won big in both college and the pros? Schnellenberger came to mind because he got it going at Miami and Erickson because he's enjoyed success a multiple college programs.

Upvoted for laziness

"lazy and don't give a fuck" is chinworthy

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

YellowSnow said:

Who would have been considered a greater coach than James during his '75- '92 tenure?

Bryant - GOAT but only overlapped with the early days of DJ.
Switzer - Had 3 NT's but DJ beat him in the Orange.
Paterno -Disqualified
Schnellenberger - Wasn't around long enough
Holtz - Fuck no
Erickson - Never was in one place long enough; wasn't the one who built Miami into a national power.
Bowden - Hadn't won a NT yet.
Osborne - See above and DJ owned him.

Of the guys that won NT's at non traditional blue bloods- e.g., Bobby Ross, Danny Ford, Edwards, McCartney - Don James had greater long term success than any of these guys.

I'm not going to argue that he was the best coach of his era in CFB, but top 3-4 certainly sounds about right to me. Regarding perception of him outside of the PAC, I wonder how much technology of the age had to do with this. In this day and age, think about much easier it is for the average sports fan and/or member of the national media to have a sense of what it going on in college football outside of their own region. Hell, ESPN Game Day didn't even make it to a regular season game west of Colorado until 1998.

How the fuck did you list two Miami coaches and not include the best one?

Thank you. Jimmy wins another five if he stays ... easily.

Didn't Bowden have FSU in the top 5 for some insane number of years ... something like 12, 13 or 14 years in a row? Couple titles, a few inches from a couple more.

I'd say Boobuh belongs in the same convo with Don James, particularly considering it was a non-program when he arrived. Washington had won before James got here. Boobah broke ground in Trailerhassee. Hard to argue otherwise.

I say this as not the biggest FSU fan either.

EwaDawg said:

RaceBannon said:

If you aren't a millennial and grew up watching football in the 80's you know Don James or your a faggot.

Let us know which it is please

In the Creeps' case -it is definitely abundance with a side of just plain stupid fucktardedness.

HTH

Sometimes I think you've established the outter limits of your stupidity. Then you show up and prove me wrong.

How are those two dummies of yours going to get around the SAT? You know there's no more affirmative action at UW, so that's not going to work now.