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What would have Jake Locker been like under Petersen?

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    Intersectional_DawgIntersectional_Dawg Member Posts: 524
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    He would've been pretty good.
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    chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,680
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    chuck said:

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    Jake would have been a great fullback or linebacker if he were tough. He wasn't tough though. My guess is he would have been a frustrating QB with tons of physical potential but no brains. Kinda like he was under Sark.

    I disagree that he wasn't tough. He played through plenty of pain and injuries. He was just injury prone. That's different than being not tough, IMO.
    I think he was tough until he broke his hand. Never got any kind of sense of toughness or grit from him after that. The "I don't see anything" moment kinda cemented my view of his toughness or lack thereof. That was a scared kid moment which is exactly what he played like by that stage of his career.

    I think he was too big to play safety and would have been an ilb on defense. Being prone to injury, and not real gritty at least in my assessment, would have kept him from being real good at it.
    MKG
    Even grandpa sankey could see that the dumb fuck's helmet was pulled down over his eyes.
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    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,408
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    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    Jake would have been a great fullback or linebacker if he were tough. He wasn't tough though. My guess is he would have been a frustrating QB with tons of physical potential but no brains. Kinda like he was under Sark.

    I disagree that he wasn't tough. He played through plenty of pain and injuries. He was just injury prone. That's different than being not tough, IMO.
    I think he was tough until he broke his hand. Never got any kind of sense of toughness or grit from him after that. The "I don't see anything" moment kinda cemented my view of his toughness or lack thereof. That was a scared kid moment which is exactly what he played like by that stage of his career.

    I think he was too big to play safety and would have been an ilb on defense. Being prone to injury, and not real gritty at least in my assessment, would have kept him from being real good at it.
    MKG
    Even grandpa sankey could see that the dumb fuck's helmet was pulled down over his eyes.
    ChuckHIV!
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,816
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    Tequilla said:

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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,816
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    I'll never get the Locker hate, but for Christ's sake, if you've been paying any attention at all to the last three years then you know the whole fucking team would have been much better.

    It's why I don't understand the Locker hate and why this is even really a question ...

    Locker had all the tools necessary to be a good QB ...

    He never really was in a great position from a development, coaching, or team position to grow into a truly elite level player.

    I don't blame him one bit for walking away from the NFL ... if you aren't 100% in ... then you should be 100% out.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,070
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    Locker was and is a pussy.

    But the hate comes from allowing himself to be used to keep Ty
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,816
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    Locker was and is a pussy.

    But the hate comes from allowing himself to be used to keep Ty

    Very interested in your last comment ... please elaborate
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    AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
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    Locker is in the same IQ range as Jeremiah Masoli, maybe a bit dumber. Since QBs need grey matter to succeed, I'm not sure he would have done well in Chip Kelly's offense.
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    Intersectional_DawgIntersectional_Dawg Member Posts: 524
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    AZDuck said:

    Locker is in the same IQ range as Jeremiah Masoli, maybe a bit dumber. Since QBs need grey matter to succeed, I'm not sure he would have done well in Chip Kelly's offense.

    Mastoli! Roflmao!
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    Intersectional_DawgIntersectional_Dawg Member Posts: 524
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    AZDuck said:

    Locker is in the same IQ range as Jeremiah Masoli, maybe a bit dumber. Since QBs need grey matter to succeed, I'm not sure he would have done well in Chip Kelly's offense.

    Mastoli! Roflmao!
    Hide your lap top!
    I bet he tried to smoke it first!!1!
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,816
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    Tequilla said:


    I'll never get the Locker hate, but for Christ's sake, if you've been paying any attention at all to the last three years then you know the whole fucking team would have been much better.

    It's why I don't understand the Locker hate and why this is even really a question ...

    Locker had all the tools necessary to be a good QB ...

    He never really was in a great position from a development, coaching, or team position to grow into a truly elite level player.

    I don't blame him one bit for walking away from the NFL ... if you aren't 100% in ... then you should be 100% out.
    He had all the tools except he was not smart and he was not accurate. Both can be improved with coaching, but on some level he was lacking naturally in both those areas.
    Listening to players from the 70s they'd tell you that Terry Bradshaw was beyond stupid ...

    I don't think you have to be a Mensa to be a good QB ... sometimes those that are smarter can get into ruts where they overthink things (something I am guilty of from time to time). Sometimes ignorance can be bliss where you just go and aren't slowed down by excess thought.

    It'll obviously never be proven one way or another but I can envision where Locker would have been a very good QB at UW and very good NFL QB. Talent by itself doesn't get you everywhere. Locker had it. But a lot of other things for one reason or another were not where they needed to be.
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    AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
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    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:


    I'll never get the Locker hate, but for Christ's sake, if you've been paying any attention at all to the last three years then you know the whole fucking team would have been much better.

    It's why I don't understand the Locker hate and why this is even really a question ...

    Locker had all the tools necessary to be a good QB ...

    He never really was in a great position from a development, coaching, or team position to grow into a truly elite level player.

    I don't blame him one bit for walking away from the NFL ... if you aren't 100% in ... then you should be 100% out.
    He had all the tools except he was not smart and he was not accurate. Both can be improved with coaching, but on some level he was lacking naturally in both those areas.
    Listening to players from the 70s they'd tell you that Terry Bradshaw was beyond stupid ...

    I don't think you have to be a Mensa to be a good QB ... sometimes those that are smarter can get into ruts where they overthink things (something I am guilty of from time to time). Sometimes ignorance can be bliss where you just go and aren't slowed down by excess thought.

    It'll obviously never be proven one way or another but I can envision where Locker would have been a very good QB at UW and very good NFL QB. Talent by itself doesn't get you everywhere. Locker had it. But a lot of other things for one reason or another were not where they needed to be.
    Just get out there and #ripit?
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:


    I'll never get the Locker hate, but for Christ's sake, if you've been paying any attention at all to the last three years then you know the whole fucking team would have been much better.

    It's why I don't understand the Locker hate and why this is even really a question ...

    Locker had all the tools necessary to be a good QB ...

    He never really was in a great position from a development, coaching, or team position to grow into a truly elite level player.

    I don't blame him one bit for walking away from the NFL ... if you aren't 100% in ... then you should be 100% out.
    He had all the tools except he was not smart and he was not accurate. Both can be improved with coaching, but on some level he was lacking naturally in both those areas.
    Listening to players from the 70s they'd tell you that Terry Bradshaw was beyond stupid ...

    I don't think you have to be a Mensa to be a good QB ... sometimes those that are smarter can get into ruts where they overthink things (something I am guilty of from time to time). Sometimes ignorance can be bliss where you just go and aren't slowed down by excess thought.

    It'll obviously never be proven one way or another but I can envision where Locker would have been a very good QB at UW and very good NFL QB. Talent by itself doesn't get you everywhere. Locker had it. But a lot of other things for one reason or another were not where they needed to be.
    Football was a lot different in the 1970s than in the 2000s.

    Also, water is wet.
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    SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,240
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    AZDuck said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:


    I'll never get the Locker hate, but for Christ's sake, if you've been paying any attention at all to the last three years then you know the whole fucking team would have been much better.

    It's why I don't understand the Locker hate and why this is even really a question ...

    Locker had all the tools necessary to be a good QB ...

    He never really was in a great position from a development, coaching, or team position to grow into a truly elite level player.

    I don't blame him one bit for walking away from the NFL ... if you aren't 100% in ... then you should be 100% out.
    He had all the tools except he was not smart and he was not accurate. Both can be improved with coaching, but on some level he was lacking naturally in both those areas.
    Listening to players from the 70s they'd tell you that Terry Bradshaw was beyond stupid ...

    I don't think you have to be a Mensa to be a good QB ... sometimes those that are smarter can get into ruts where they overthink things (something I am guilty of from time to time). Sometimes ignorance can be bliss where you just go and aren't slowed down by excess thought.

    It'll obviously never be proven one way or another but I can envision where Locker would have been a very good QB at UW and very good NFL QB. Talent by itself doesn't get you everywhere. Locker had it. But a lot of other things for one reason or another were not where they needed to be.
    Just get out there and #ripit?
    Bradshaw had good instincts .. to go along with a team full of hall of fame players on both sides of the ball and hall of fame coaching on the sidelines. #STEELCURTAIN
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