Scott Woodward: will he be a Stone Cold Savage or a wilting flower?

If Sarkisian finishes out the regular season 2-2 and then goes 7-5 with a conference record of 4-5 in his 5th season, will Woodward be a Stone Cold Savage and pay Sarkisian to go away? Or will he refuse to admit Sarkisian wasn't the best hire, dig in to cover his own ass, and give him an unearned 6th season?

If the 4 games play out like Vegas sees, then his wins will be:

Boise State (6-3, best win over Utah State)
Illinois (3-5, 0-4 in conference, best win against Cincinnati)
Idaho State (not Division 1)
Arizona (6-2, 3-2 in conference, best win against Utah)
Cal (1-8, 0-7 in conference)
Colorado (3-5, 0-5 in conference, best win against Colorado State)
WSU (4-5, 2-4 in conference, best win against a Kiffin coached USC early in the season)

So would our best win be against Arizona? Does a head-coach deserve to come back for a 6th season when the entire roster is his, he has a RS-SR at QB, and enjoyed 17 returning starters?

I just want to see someone not named HuskyClaus try to defend Sarkisian from Woodward's point of view.

And if Woodward doesn't do what is in OUR (Hardcore Husky Fans) interests, then what do we do? Do we get rid of him too?

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LawDawg1

I'm in the same boat, they won't let me post on the Hardcore Husky board unless they approve it first. Oh well.

Humor me for a moment: if we beat Cal by 24, then lose @ UCLA by 13, then lose @ OSU by 7, we will be 3-5 in conference. If Woodward doesn't get on board and get rid of Sarkisian, how do we get rid of Woodward then? Organize a march? Organize a press conference? What can we do to get Woodward to act in our and the program's best interests rather than his own?
But will they still take your money?

The Faux lawyers are tuff about the "no refund" policy with the 12 month advance payment. They don't care if the rules changed or if the Nazis take over the bored.

Mad_Son

This will sound very odd but our best hope
is for the Mariners to become decent or better.
There is only so much disposable income from
the average fan dedicated to sporting events.
Currently the Huskies lie in second position for that
disposable income after the Seahawks. The new
stadium boost will leave quickly, just like Safeco,
and REAL Husky fans will want results. I just don't
see Woodward and the president being happy with
being third choice for the sports dollar. And I am
not including the Sounders as that seems to be more
a niche fan to me. Ultimately if we got the Sonics back
there would be real pressure on the UW to put out a winning
product.

The reason not to worry about the Sounders is because they already sell out and can't take a bigger chunk of fans than they already have.

Tequilla

The reason not to worry about the Sounders is that 75% of their fan base is counter-culture hipster pussies that would have no interest in tackle football anyway because it's too violent for their skin tight jeans

[Deleted User]

Sark on the Mitch KJR show this AM said that the last 4 games of this season will define this football team. Thanks for putting this out there Coach; when we finish 2-2 or 1-3 I want this replayed for him.

It really is a shame nobody in this fucking town ever holds Sark to his statements when he doesn't back it up.

I would have loved after the Alamo Bowl for one reporter to go "Hey coach, since you claimed the season was House Money you guys finished the year losing four out of five. Do you feel like the team took on your attitude that the season didn't matter since you clinched a trip to a bowl game? I thought you said two years ago your goal was to win championships and Rose Bowls when did you change those goals?".

[Deleted User]

The reason not to worry about the Sounders is that 75% of their fan base is counter-culture hipster pussies that would have no interest in tackle football anyway because it's too violent for their skin tight jeans

Mellow true?!

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

I just don't think it's good enough to complain but to channel that frustration / energy towards getting RESULTS.

Does anyone have any better ideas than mine? Surely some of you are more creative / intelligent than me, right?

I highly doubt that.

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

The reason not to worry about the Sounders is that 75% of their fan base is counter-culture hipster pussies that would have no interest in tackle football anyway because it's too violent for their skin tight jeans

Disagree. I saw one guy at the Cal game* that looks just like the person you described.

*Yes, I hate money.

HoustonHusky

The reason not to worry about the Sounders is that 75% of their fan base is counter-culture hipster pussies that would have no interest in tackle football anyway because it's too violent for their skin tight jeans

The Sounder's owners care a hell of a lot more about winning than the people in charge at UW right now.

Fire_Marshall_Bill

Sark on the Mitch KJR show this AM said that the last 4 games of this season will define this football team. Thanks for putting this out there Coach; when we finish 2-2 or 1-3 I want this replayed for him.
It really is a shame nobody in this fucking town ever holds Sark to his statements when he doesn't back it up.

I would have loved after the Alamo Bowl for one reporter to go "Hey coach, since you claimed the season was House Money you guys finished the year losing four out of five. Do you feel like the team took on your attitude that the season didn't matter since you clinched a trip to a bowl game? I thought you said two years ago your goal was to win championships and Rose Bowls when did you change those goals?".

With a few exceptions, the Seattle-Tacoma-Everett Metroplex media is full of pussies.

HoustonHusky

And another thing about this effing thread that keeps coming up every week. Anyone read our Premium partner's summary of Sark's kick-ass presser today and get any sense of urgency that he's even remotely worried about his job if they lay a couple of rotten eggs in the next 4 weeks? He knows he is safe from Poolboy...no clue why anyone would think otherwise.

And I'm sure our recruiting class will generally blow with a bunch of 4* receivers (half of which should be switched to CBs) and only 2 or 3 diamond in the rough OL that no one else really wanted but they will start in 2 years ahead of our no-name OLs that we took the last couple of years.

tracker

This will sound very odd but our best hope
is for the Mariners to become decent or better.
There is only so much disposable income from
the average fan dedicated to sporting events.
Currently the Huskies lie in second position for that
disposable income after the Seahawks. The new
stadium boost will leave quickly, just like Safeco,
and REAL Husky fans will want results. I just don't
see Woodward and the president being happy with
being third choice for the sports dollar. And I am
not including the Sounders as that seems to be more
a niche fan to me. Ultimately if we got the Sonics back
there would be real pressure on the UW to put out a winning
product.
The reason not to worry about the Sounders is because they already sell out and can't take a bigger chunk of fans than they already have.

I'm not sure if this is a whoosh but in case it's not. . .
The Sounders, for five years in a row, have set MSL average attendance records including this year's 44,000+. If the Huskies aren't worried about this they should be as the two seasons pretty much go on at the same time of year. The Sounder's approach to "incremental progress" has been to slowly expand seating capacity at CenturyLink. There's still plenty of room to expand.

http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/29/seattle-sounders-break-mls-attendance-record-average-44038-fans-per-game/

AtomicDawg

As much as the huskies suck I will never go to a futbol game over any college football game. I hate Seattle.

DugtheDoog

Great ideas on the Neal Dempsey and Sky Signs!

If a lot of people are paying $1500-$2000 a year on season tickets and other Husky Football related stuff but keep getting Sloppy Seven Win Steve, I imagine someone spending $1,000 to get the loser out of town would be money well spent.

One could also argue that Sarkisian is devaluing our Tyee points by making them worth less in the future since he keeps sucking in conference.
I just don't think it's good enough to complain but to channel that frustration / energy towards getting RESULTS.

Does anyone have any better ideas than mine? Surely some of you are more creative / intelligent than me, right?
Anything and everything helps, do not give up. As Sark says, "be relentless in your pursuit to gain competitive advantage".

Here's a small idea, FIRE SARK aerial advertising. This guy will fly a 4,000 sq.ft. banner @ 1,000 feet over Husky Stadium for less than $1K. Book him for Apple Cup, 12:30 kickoff on Fox.

http://www.skysigns.com/

Just set up a paypal account and get 20 guys on here to donate $50. I'd happily donate to this worthwhile charity. It's unlikely to work but it would be fucking hilarious and get people talking.

death2ducks

If Sarkisian finishes out the regular season 2-2 and then goes 7-5 with a conference record of 4-5 in his 5th season, will Woodward be a Stone Cold Savage and pay Sarkisian to go away? Or will he refuse to admit Sarkisian wasn't the best hire, dig in to cover his own ass, and give him an unearned 6th season?

So would our best win be against Arizona? Does a head-coach deserve to come back for a 6th season when the entire roster is his, he has a RS-SR at QB, and enjoyed 17 returning starters?

And if Woodward doesn't do what is in OUR (Hardcore Husky Fans) interests, then what do we do? Do we get rid of him too?

Yes
No
Yes
No
Fire Him
See Thad the Fag Turner

Sark getting fired is NOT Woodward failing. Sark was Woodward's 37th choice. Sark got us out of a hole. "Thanks Sark, you got paid VERY WELL for 5 years." "Don't let the door hit you in the ass."

This idea that Woodward would be embarrassed to fire Sark is complete Bull Shit. Steinbrenner fired every manager he ever hired, except the last one. It's no big fucking deal. Nobody expected Sark to be the next Don James, and he isn't.

The ubers know that. They run businesses. They've fired plenty of people that they hired. Do they resign after? LMAO

The Regents know it too. Did the Regents resign after they fired McCormick? They hired him didn't they?

Five years ago, Woodward couldn't hire shit. Now he can trade up. Shit, just blame Emmert. Say that Emmert hired Sark and fire his ass. Or blame George Bush. That still works after 5 years doesn't it?

What's the big fucking deal?

Now go tell Fatters that he's a giant fat fuck, and tell Kim he's a queer, so they throw your ass out of Doog Town.

MisterEm

Great ideas on the Neal Dempsey and Sky Signs!

If a lot of people are paying $1500-$2000 a year on season tickets and other Husky Football related stuff but keep getting Sloppy Seven Win Steve, I imagine someone spending $1,000 to get the loser out of town would be money well spent.

One could also argue that Sarkisian is devaluing our Tyee points by making them worth less in the future since he keeps sucking in conference.
I just don't think it's good enough to complain but to channel that frustration / energy towards getting RESULTS.

Does anyone have any better ideas than mine? Surely some of you are more creative / intelligent than me, right?
Anything and everything helps, do not give up. As Sark says, "be relentless in your pursuit to gain competitive advantage".

Here's a small idea, FIRE SARK aerial advertising. This guy will fly a 4,000 sq.ft. banner @ 1,000 feet over Husky Stadium for less than $1K. Book him for Apple Cup, 12:30 kickoff on Fox.

http://www.skysigns.com/

Just set up a paypal account and get 20 guys on here to donate $50. I'd happily donate to this worthwhile charity. It's unlikely to work but it would be fucking hilarious and get people talking.

I'll donate in a hearbeat. I hate money anyway as an anti-Sark Dm.c member.

DonLos

This will sound very odd but our best hope
is for the Mariners to become decent or better.
There is only so much disposable income from
the average fan dedicated to sporting events.
Currently the Huskies lie in second position for that
disposable income after the Seahawks. The new
stadium boost will leave quickly, just like Safeco,
and REAL Husky fans will want results. I just don't
see Woodward and the president being happy with
being third choice for the sports dollar. And I am
not including the Sounders as that seems to be more
a niche fan to me. Ultimately if we got the Sonics back
there would be real pressure on the UW to put out a winning
product.
The reason not to worry about the Sounders is because they already sell out and can't take a bigger chunk of fans than they already have.

I'm not sure if this is a whoosh but in case it's not. . .
The Sounders, for five years in a row, have set MSL average attendance records including this year's 44,000+. If the Huskies aren't worried about this they should be as the two seasons pretty much go on at the same time of year. The Sounder's approach to "incremental progress" has been to slowly expand seating capacity at CenturyLink. There's still plenty of room to expand.

http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/29/seattle-sounders-break-mls-attendance-record-average-44038-fans-per-game/

I agree that it should be a concern long term.

I went down to Safeco last summer and couldn't believe the traffic. All the free spots were gone. Ton of people on the street walking to the ballpark. Then I realized all the kids were carrying scarves not mitts. The Sounders were playing at the same time.

Kids who grow up playing and watching soccer are going to be a hard target for team that has been mediocre to poor for 20 years.

Tequilla

HH,

If Sigi isn't fired after the Sounders DIAF in Portland on Thursday, then you can't claim that they care more about winning than the Huskies do at this point.

You could argue that Sigi should have been fired after last season.

DerekJohnson

HH,

If Sigi isn't fired after the Sounders DIAF in Portland on Thursday, then you can't claim that they care more about winning than the Huskies do at this point.

You could argue that Sigi should have been fired after last season.

Is Sigi the best soccer coach on the best staff in America?

HoustonHusky

HH,

If Sigi isn't fired after the Sounders DIAF in Portland on Thursday, then you can't claim that they care more about winning than the Huskies do at this point.

You could argue that Sigi should have been fired after last season.

I can claim whatever I want. Not sure if they will or not, but its a much better chance than Sark getting fired this year. Their problem is who do you bring in...with Sark I can name 4 or 5 guys that would jump at the chance and have already demonstrated better coaching skills. With replacing Sigi...its a gamble. If I was them I'd throw money at Bradley but I don't think he'd come back...other than him what coach can they hire that will be a step up? No chance of Kreis, Porter, Vermes, or Arena coming in...rest of the MLS coaches are meh. They will probably have to take a gamble on either a random overseas coach which never has worked out well for a MLS team or hire an MLS assistant or MLS former player with no track record which is a crapshoot, and doesn't fit their MO of needing to win ASAP (and sounds a lot like how we got stuck with Sark in the first place).

IMHO the owner effed up by bringing Dempsey in (wasn't Sigi I don't think)...horrible contract, screwed up team chemistry, and they really don't have a spot for him on the field with their current roster without displacing several other guys. EJ is about as mature as Sark, and with them paying Dempsey that kind of money there was no way he was going to be a happy camper. You're going to see a ton of turnover on that roster whatever happens. Wish the Dynamo would have traded Moffat for Neagle...

RoadDawg55

HH,

If Sigi isn't fired after the Sounders DIAF in Portland on Thursday, then you can't claim that they care more about winning than the Huskies do at this point.

You could argue that Sigi should have been fired after last season.

In one post you talk about how Sounders fans are pussies, and now you are talking about them firing their coach? Are you one of the hipsters that follows the Sounders?