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Scott Woodward: will he be a Stone Cold Savage or a wilting flower?

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,639 Founders Club
    "That was then, this is now" Barbra Hedges after firing Lambo after UW was embarrassed by Air Force in a bowl.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,012
    Tequilla said:

    I attend one Sounders game a year - normally their last home game when they fall flat on their faces. If I watch 1/3 of their games during the year, that's probably the high end of things.

    I definitely would never write the amount about Minor League Soccer (see what I did there) that HH did ...

    HOWEVER, one thing I'd disagree with is the bringing in of Dempsey. Both Dempsey and Johnson have shown that they can excel at the national team level - yes? Dempsey generally plays either forward or attacking midfield on the national team level (if we play w/ 5 midfielders) and Johnson tends to play out wide. For the Sounders, Sigi has Johnson play forward and Dempsey in midfield ... he's really not playing either in their positions of strength.

    Holy fuck...you basically admit you don't pay attention and then give me a lecture on how they should be playing? Can't beat knowing everything I guess...

    As an FYI...Martins is their best center forward, and Johnson is horrible as a winger. He's a speed forward and that's about it.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,354 Founders Club

    I can't see Sark getting fired at 7-5 if the two losses are to UCLA and Oregon State.

    Remember Price is banged up and Kasen is out for the season. Sark will start using the injury card very soon.

    "Minus the ASU game we were on our way to a special season then injuries kind of derailed the season. It's pretty unfortunate that happened because I felt we were a better team than our record showed". -Future Sark quote at the end of the year.

    That routine has been over played, it's tired and no longer has legs. Before the season started, the national media was running with the frustration of three consecutive seven win seasons at Washington. This was supposed to be the season they get over that hump and start challenging for conference titles. @Stanford nearly supported that idea. vs Oregon made it clear that they're not there yet .... in year 5. @ASU should have been the death knell. That game showed, once again, how glaringly bad the coaching really is.

    I don't see him surviving another seven win season. The disappointment and pressure will be coming from all sides if they finish with a fourth consecutive seven win season. IMO the real problem is if they somehow win eight or more games. At that point it will come down to how much pressure the high value donors apply to Woody to get serious about winning titles (just as they did to Hedges over Lambo). If they are content as a group with the way the team finishes, get ready for Sark v6.0. If not, get ready for a new coach, and a whole lot of angst over Woody's selection process.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208

    We had over 60,000 fans show up to the last game. Eklund is right to some degree that we are the vast minority.

    The majority of our fans have learned absolutely nothing from the last 0-12. NOTHING!

    Only way these fans turn on Sark is if he loses to Colorado or WSU at home. Possibly if he is plunger raped to some awful MWC team in the shit bowl game that nobody gives a fuck about.

    60,000 fans did not show up to the last game. I think you meant to say 60,000 tickets were distributed.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Tequilla said:

    HFNY,

    Let's see how it all plays out ...

    If he finishes 2-2 and the 2 losses are pitiful efforts, then I would tend to think that Pool Boy will start feeling a little more pressure from some pissed off fans who are only excited in the Vegas part of the Vegas Bowl Part Deaux experience.

    You speak as if the government bureaucrat cares what the public thinks.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    We had over 60,000 fans show up to the last game. Eklund is right to some degree that we are the vast minority.

    The majority of our fans have learned absolutely nothing from the last 0-12. NOTHING!

    Only way these fans turn on Sark is if he loses to Colorado or WSU at home. Possibly if he is plunger raped to some awful MWC team in the shit bowl game that nobody gives a fuck about.

    This is why I won't be rooting for 0-13 next year. The morons who learned nothing from 0-12 won't learn a thing from 0-13 either.

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,232
    HH,

    I watch the Sounders when they are playing against good teams - I avoid the shit MLS games like I'd avoid a Lemon Party.

    I agree with you that Johnson's best attribute is his speed - which is lost when you have him playing center forward. He needs to find a way to play in space and attack people to get goals. In my mind, easiest way to do that is to get him out a little bit wider.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,012
    edited November 2013
    Tequilla said:

    HH,

    I watch the Sounders when they are playing against good teams - I avoid the shit MLS games like I'd avoid a Lemon Party.

    I agree with you that Johnson's best attribute is his speed - which is lost when you have him playing center forward. He needs to find a way to play in space and attack people to get goals. In my mind, easiest way to do that is to get him out a little bit wider.

    EJ had horrible ball skills, is a crappy passer, and no defensive skills which makes him a horrible option as an outside half. His best position is as a 2nd forward playing through off a target forward...only problem is, Dempsey's best position is as a withdrawn forward roaming off of a target forward. Same with Neagle. They all play the same position in very different ways (also not helping team chemistry...). So in a 4-4-2 formation you've got 3 guys that are good at being the 2nd forward and 1 injured guy (Martins) that is the best target forward option...which leads me back to my point that bringing in Dempsey was dumb.

    And just wait to see how dumb it will be in 3 years when he's a shadow of his current self getting paid $3+MM...
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    Tequilla said:

    HH,

    I watch the Sounders when they are playing against good teams - I avoid the shit MLS games like I'd avoid a Lemon Party.

    I agree with you that Johnson's best attribute is his speed - which is lost when you have him playing center forward. He needs to find a way to play in space and attack people to get goals. In my mind, easiest way to do that is to get him out a little bit wider.

    EJ had horrible ball skills, is a crappy passer, and no defensive skills which makes him a horrible option as an outside half. His best position is as a 2nd forward playing through off a target forward...only problem is, Dempsey's best position is as a withdrawn forward roaming off of a target forward. Same with Neagle. They all play the same position in very different ways (also not helping team chemistry...). So in a 4-4-2 formation you've got 3 guys that are good at being the 2nd forward and 1 injured guy (Martins) that is the best target forward option...which leads me back to my point that bringing in Dempsey was dumb.

    And just wait to see how dumb it will be in 3 years when he's a shadow of his current self getting paid $3+MM...
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  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,524
    That is what is so alarming to me (Woodward's political background)...the more I read up on him and hear 2nd/3rd hand what he is thinking, the less I believe in him either.

    http://www.gohuskies.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=208229301

    Besides, if our athletic department pulls in $65 million (or more now with the new stadium), how come paying Sarkisian to go away (max of $3.9 million) would be such a big deal? That's just 6% of all revenues and Football is by far the biggest revenue generator for the Athletic Department!

    Tequilla said:

    HFNY,

    Let's see how it all plays out ...

    If he finishes 2-2 and the 2 losses are pitiful efforts, then I would tend to think that Pool Boy will start feeling a little more pressure from some pissed off fans who are only excited in the Vegas part of the Vegas Bowl Part Deaux experience.

    You speak as if the government bureaucrat cares what the public thinks.