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doogie
doogie Member Posts: 15,072
If we run we're toast. No shot, he says.

We need line of scrimmage reads, pre- determined routes and quick release passes into space.

In other words, Hugh thinks that in order to have any shot at winning, we need to run Mike Leach''s offense and play like Cuogs???
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223

    doogie said:

    If we run we're toast. No shot, he says.

    We need line of scrimmage reads, pre- determined routes and quick release passes into space.

    In other words, Hugh thinks that in order to have any shot at winning, we need to run Mike Leach''s offense and play like Cuogs???

    Just out of curiosity, what would be your plan of attack against Bama? You're not going to be able to run it up the middle on them, they're too fast to run it east/west, and you won't have enough time to throw it deep. The quick pass game seems to me to be your best shot of moving the ball against them. I don't agree with much of what Hugh says but we're not going to impose our will on Bama in the run game
    You have to beat them by using motion/formations to your advantage to create advantageous situations.

    You have to get them to react instead of dictate.

    Their entire defense is built on stopping the run, getting pressure on the QB, and pressing short/intermediate routes because they don't expect to have to cover long.

    I fully expect that they will pay a lot of attention to John Ross.

    We need to be able to break our tendencies and that includes getting the ball out quickly ...

    We need to find ways to get Gaskin the ball in space in situations ... this will happen in the passing game not the running game.

    We will need to find opportunities to get Daniels the ball ... athletic TEs have given Bama some problems.

    But most importantly, we need to be content with the idea that we're not going to win the game through our offense. We're going to win the game through defense and special teams. If there's a recurring theme(s) in the last 5 years, it's the following 2 things:

    1) Turnovers Margin
    2) Very poor day for Bama kicking FGs

    We need to be smart enough when it's 4th and 3 at the 38 to punt the ball inside the 10.

    We need to be smart enough to know when picking up 8-10 yards on a 3rd and 20 is a potential free first down on our next possession.

    We need to make sure we protect the ball at all costs ... look at what LSU did this year simply by not turning the ball over and relying on their defense ... scoreless into the 4th quarter.

    We need to have a field position changing play in special teams ... Van Winkle needs to be the best kicker on the field (enough said about that) ... and we can't allow a punt block.

    We need to play an A or A+ level game for us and force Alabama into something more in their B or C range. We have a lot of pieces that will give us at least a punchers chance.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,576
    Tequilla said:

    doogie said:

    If we run we're toast. No shot, he says.

    We need line of scrimmage reads, pre- determined routes and quick release passes into space.

    In other words, Hugh thinks that in order to have any shot at winning, we need to run Mike Leach''s offense and play like Cuogs???

    Just out of curiosity, what would be your plan of attack against Bama? You're not going to be able to run it up the middle on them, they're too fast to run it east/west, and you won't have enough time to throw it deep. The quick pass game seems to me to be your best shot of moving the ball against them. I don't agree with much of what Hugh says but we're not going to impose our will on Bama in the run game
    You have to beat them by using motion/formations to your advantage to create advantageous situations.

    You have to get them to react instead of dictate.

    Their entire defense is built on stopping the run, getting pressure on the QB, and pressing short/intermediate routes because they don't expect to have to cover long.

    I fully expect that they will pay a lot of attention to John Ross.

    We need to be able to break our tendencies and that includes getting the ball out quickly ...

    We need to find ways to get Gaskin the ball in space in situations ... this will happen in the passing game not the running game.

    We will need to find opportunities to get Daniels the ball ... athletic TEs have given Bama some problems.

    But most importantly, we need to be content with the idea that we're not going to win the game through our offense. We're going to win the game through defense and special teams. If there's a recurring theme(s) in the last 5 years, it's the following 2 things:

    1) Turnovers Margin
    2) Very poor day for Bama kicking FGs

    We need to be smart enough when it's 4th and 3 at the 38 to punt the ball inside the 10.

    We need to be smart enough to know when picking up 8-10 yards on a 3rd and 20 is a potential free first down on our next possession.

    We need to make sure we protect the ball at all costs ... look at what LSU did this year simply by not turning the ball over and relying on their defense ... scoreless into the 4th quarter.

    We need to have a field position changing play in special teams ... Van Winkle needs to be the best kicker on the field (enough said about that) ... and we can't allow a punt block.

    We need to play an A or A+ level game for us and force Alabama into something more in their B or C range. We have a lot of pieces that will give us at least a punchers chance.
    So in terms of offense, quick passing reads and getting the ball in space
  • alumni94
    alumni94 Member Posts: 4,878
    I agree spread them out with formations and we do need to throw the deep ball to keep them honest and not allow them to load the box. Play action...under utilized but very effective.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    First thing I'll be looking for are our shifts, motions, and formation groupings ... how/what/who are we trying to attack???

    Instead of saying that we need to have quick passing reads, it's more important to me to try to isolate situations to let Jake be his pre-snap Jesus best. Saying you have to throw quick will just lead to potential panic. That's where the breaking tendency part comes into play ... we throw primarily to Ross and Pettis ... we need to be very diversified against Alabama.

    As for space, we need to be thinking of ways to get Gaskin the ball in the passing game against a LB. He's shifty enough to make someone mix and if the play design is good, that could lead to a very good gain.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,358
    dhdawg said:

    If that's your mentality you have already lost. UW won't win playing 1 dimensional football

    in all likelihood they are not going to move the ball via the run consistently. We are a balanced team unlike LSU so that helps, but we also not as physical as LSU.
    Figuring out ways to get the ball to people in space is not a bad game plan. I think check downs to the backs or TE could help assuming they are keeping a safety high to protect vs ross. We haven't done that much this year though.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,429 Founders Club

    doogie said:

    If we run we're toast. No shot, he says.

    We need line of scrimmage reads, pre- determined routes and quick release passes into space.

    In other words, Hugh thinks that in order to have any shot at winning, we need to run Mike Leach''s offense and play like Cuogs???

    Just out of curiosity, what would be your plan of attack against Bama? You're not going to be able to run it up the middle on them, they're too fast to run it east/west, and you won't have enough time to throw it deep. The quick pass game seems to me to be your best shot of moving the ball against them. I don't agree with much of what Hugh says but we're not going to impose our will on Bama in the run game
    You have to try and run it....even if 2nd and 8 everytime. Better than 2nd and 10 or worse.