We shouldn't even play the game is what I hear/see from most Bammer fans ...
UW doesn't have the talent to matchup because Bammer is loaded w NFL players in their 3 deeps ... too bad you dont play the 3 deeps all at one time ...
I hear we don't have a NFL defense ... yet anybody doubting that Vita, Qualls, Gaines, Bierria, Budda, Jones, King, and Rapp won't all be NFL players and almost all drafted in top 2-3 rounds.
I hear we don't have the talent on offense to cause problems ... yet anybody questioning whether Ross, Gaskin, Coleman, Pettis, Adams, Eldrenkamp, or McGary will be pros? That doesn't even include Browning (Kellen Moore career), or guys that are probably more fringe potential players like Daniels, Sample, Dissly, and Colemsn Shelton.
Nobody doubts Alabama's high end talent ... but we have pieces that can cause issues.
Solid post but you completely contradict yourself from the OL arguments when you mention 4 of 5 lineman as future pros.
We shouldn't even play the game is what I hear/see from most Bammer fans ...
UW doesn't have the talent to matchup because Bammer is loaded w NFL players in their 3 deeps ... too bad you dont play the 3 deeps all at one time ...
I hear we don't have a NFL defense ... yet anybody doubting that Vita, Qualls, Gaines, Bierria, Budda, Jones, King, and Rapp won't all be NFL players and almost all drafted in top 2-3 rounds.
I hear we don't have the talent on offense to cause problems ... yet anybody questioning whether Ross, Gaskin, Coleman, Pettis, Adams, Eldrenkamp, or McGary will be pros? That doesn't even include Browning (Kellen Moore career), or guys that are probably more fringe potential players like Daniels, Sample, Dissly, and Colemsn Shelton.
Nobody doubts Alabama's high end talent ... but we have pieces that can cause issues.
Of course you do. I would never blow off Washington except in a homer shootout on a forum. All I'm doing is explaining the errors some of your homers are making in looking at the LSU and Ole Miss scores and thinking all you have to do is emulate them. You can't compare any other game scores to the LSU game, and as for Ole Miss, the final was close only because of the Bullshit that happened in the first half. Then we destroyed them 45-3. I don't know if I'm nervous. With our defense a Bama fan should never be nervous - but I'm not betting the homestead on the spread either.
Everything Bama does is attacking on defense ... they bring at least 5 on most plays ... they have no reason to change what they do and not should they
Washington, and really any team trying to beat Bama, has to be willing to change what Bama views as normal. Need to get Bama to the point where they are reacting and not trusting what it is that they are seeing ... have to find ways to show mirages
Washington's best chance of being in a position to win is all tied to the defense ... DTs have to plug the middle run and Hurts on the outside must be contained. I feel that we should be able to do some good things against the Bama screen game ... Hurts and fly sweeps on the edges are primary concern. IF we can get Hurts in spots where he has to throw down the field, I will take my chances.
We need line of scrimmage reads, pre- determined routes and quick release passes into space.
In other words, Hugh thinks that in order to have any shot at winning, we need to run Mike Leach''s offense and play like Cuogs???
Just out of curiosity, what would be your plan of attack against Bama? You're not going to be able to run it up the middle on them, they're too fast to run it east/west, and you won't have enough time to throw it deep. The quick pass game seems to me to be your best shot of moving the ball against them. I don't agree with much of what Hugh says but we're not going to impose our will on Bama in the run game
You have to beat them by using motion/formations to your advantage to create advantageous situations.
You have to get them to react instead of dictate.
Their entire defense is built on stopping the run, getting pressure on the QB, and pressing short/intermediate routes because they don't expect to have to cover long.
I fully expect that they will pay a lot of attention to John Ross.
We need to be able to break our tendencies and that includes getting the ball out quickly ...
We need to find ways to get Gaskin the ball in space in situations ... this will happen in the passing game not the running game.
We will need to find opportunities to get Daniels the ball ... athletic TEs have given Bama some problems.
But most importantly, we need to be content with the idea that we're not going to win the game through our offense. We're going to win the game through defense and special teams. If there's a recurring theme(s) in the last 5 years, it's the following 2 things:
1) Turnovers Margin 2) Very poor day for Bama kicking FGs
We need to be smart enough when it's 4th and 3 at the 38 to punt the ball inside the 10.
We need to be smart enough to know when picking up 8-10 yards on a 3rd and 20 is a potential free first down on our next possession.
We need to make sure we protect the ball at all costs ... look at what LSU did this year simply by not turning the ball over and relying on their defense ... scoreless into the 4th quarter.
We need to have a field position changing play in special teams ... Van Winkle needs to be the best kicker on the field (enough said about that) ... and we can't allow a punt block.
We need to play an A or A+ level game for us and force Alabama into something more in their B or C range. We have a lot of pieces that will give us at least a punchers chance.
@Tequilla I think you're dead right when you say Worshington will not win with offense. If you look at the teams that have beaten Alabama since their rise, they're pretty much badass motherfuckers. Big arms, thick build, mobile and can run through a brick shit house. This description may not fit every guy on the list (Brian Johnson) but it pretty much does. One thing for certain, the QB is a mobile threat, either with the run or within the pocket or scrambling.
Chad Kelly Ole Miss 9-19-2015 Cardale Jones Ohio St. 1-1-2015 Bo Wallace Ole Miss 10-4-2014 Trevor Knight OU 1-2-2014 Nick Marshall Auburn 11-30-2013 Johnny Manziel aTm 11-10-2012 Jordan Jefferson LSU 11-5-2011 Stephen Garcia So. Carolina 10-9-2010 Jordan Jefferson and Jarrett Lee LSU 11-6-2010 Cam Newton Auburn 11-26-2010 Tim Tebow Florida 12-6-2008 Brian Johnson Utah 1-2-2009
I respect Jake Browning and the Worshington offense but I don't see Jake in that list. At least 2016 Jake.
Another thing, remember Saban's bitching and moaning about fast pace offenses? Increased injuries bla bla bla ... the fucker can't defend those type of offenses and he does not want to play that way. He hates being spread out too, which I think you touched on. I think you've identified that Worshington can't play the type of offense that Alabama struggles with.
Furthermore, I think you've identified how your team can beat them.
I'm looking forward to the podcast, I hope you touch on the things I mentioned. If I'm totally off base with this, I'll gladly take a stiff FUCK OFF.
You're several years behind times moron, just like every fool that thinks Bama still has trouble with HUNH RPO offenses. Bama runs that offense themselves now. As for defense Bama played against that type of offense in all but 3 games and is still the #1 defense in the nation. And you can forget about trying to play defense like LSU. You don't have the talent to copy LSU's defense, not to mention that LSU plays Bama tougher than anybody. Just check their schedule and compare scores of all their mediocre opponents against the score of the Bama game and you will clearly see that 10-0 was an anomally. All LSU-Bama games are like that.
You're right Crimsonite1, this moron is several years behind the times because I stopped paying close attention to Alabama after we kicked your fucking ass up and down the field for four quarters in the Sugar Bowl.
We shouldn't even play the game is what I hear/see from most Bammer fans ...
UW doesn't have the talent to matchup because Bammer is loaded w NFL players in their 3 deeps ... too bad you dont play the 3 deeps all at one time ...
I hear we don't have a NFL defense ... yet anybody doubting that Vita, Qualls, Gaines, Bierria, Budda, Jones, King, and Rapp won't all be NFL players and almost all drafted in top 2-3 rounds.
I hear we don't have the talent on offense to cause problems ... yet anybody questioning whether Ross, Gaskin, Coleman, Pettis, Adams, Eldrenkamp, or McGary will be pros? That doesn't even include Browning (Kellen Moore career), or guys that are probably more fringe potential players like Daniels, Sample, Dissly, and Colemsn Shelton.
Nobody doubts Alabama's high end talent ... but we have pieces that can cause issues.
Of course you do. I would never blow off Washington except in a homer shootout on a forum. All I'm doing is explaining the errors some of your homers are making in looking at the LSU and Ole Miss scores and thinking all you have to do is emulate them. You can't compare any other game scores to the LSU game, and as for Ole Miss, the final was close only because of the Bullshit that happened in the first half. Then we destroyed them 45-3. I don't know if I'm nervous. With our defense a Bama fan should never be nervous - but I'm not betting the homestead on the spread either.
'Homer shootout 'made me laff.
UW doesn't stand a good chance, but neither did the 101st Airborne at Bastogne. Since they fought the war, we (?) should probably play the game.
We shouldn't even play the game is what I hear/see from most Bammer fans ...
UW doesn't have the talent to matchup because Bammer is loaded w NFL players in their 3 deeps ... too bad you dont play the 3 deeps all at one time ...
I hear we don't have a NFL defense ... yet anybody doubting that Vita, Qualls, Gaines, Bierria, Budda, Jones, King, and Rapp won't all be NFL players and almost all drafted in top 2-3 rounds.
I hear we don't have the talent on offense to cause problems ... yet anybody questioning whether Ross, Gaskin, Coleman, Pettis, Adams, Eldrenkamp, or McGary will be pros? That doesn't even include Browning (Kellen Moore career), or guys that are probably more fringe potential players like Daniels, Sample, Dissly, and Colemsn Shelton.
Nobody doubts Alabama's high end talent ... but we have pieces that can cause issues.
Solid post but you completely contradict yourself from the OL arguments when you mention 4 of 5 lineman as future pros.
1) I've been critical of the OL recruiting at the kind of elite level needed to matchup on par with the Alabama type of teams in the world ... I'm fairly certain I've been consistent in saying that Strausser as a coach does develop players ...
2) This OL is not going to line up and run downhill consistently on Alabama ... just not happening.
3) I expect that Adams will be a 1st round pick ... McGary could get into the 2nd or 3rd round range if everything breaks right ... Eldrenkamp is probably more in the 3rd to 5th round range ... Shelton is probably more of a 3rd round pick ... there is a massive difference between saying that the guys will get looks in the NFL as mostly mid to late round picks and what is sitting on the Alabama defensive line that are most likely all top 3 round picks. If you want to have a line that is competing at the national level, you really need to have all 5 members of your line being in a position where they are potential Top 3 round picks or better and definitely having some 1st round picks there. We have a good line ... we don't have an elite line.
booger McFarland on brock and salk this morning made a point to say that if you have tight ends that can block the outside linebackers, and can stalemate up the middle. you can get the edge on Alabama.
I thought that was interesting, and only further proves the point that if you play scared and try to beat bama with a ton of quick passes to WR's you are shooting yourself in the foot.
I'm not saying we need to go under center and power run, but this gameplan needs to involve sample and dissly heavily.
he also said that bama's oline is mostly average, which is encouraging
How would Shaw play Bama There's so many fucking pussies in here it make me sick. Double tight end, Ross and Pettis one on one, Use Daniels and let Coleman and Gaskin chew up yards and time of possession
Shaw would lose 58-3, but still.
I always knew you were a fucking pussy
I love smashmouth football.
David Shaw is retarded.
Hope this helps.
Boobs, you don't even watch football. You love smashmouth football? Dude, you don't even know God's formation.
You love getting your backside smashmouthed.
You love posting on message boards. We know you are on IGN boards as well. Probably 100k plus poster there.
You love tapping the WTF button because you are just like shaw. You would do anything to fluff shaw.
First thing I'll be looking for are our shifts, motions, and formation groupings ... how/what/who are we trying to attack???
Instead of saying that we need to have quick passing reads, it's more important to me to try to isolate situations to let Jake be his pre-snap Jesus best. Saying you have to throw quick will just lead to potential panic. That's where the breaking tendency part comes into play ... we throw primarily to Ross and Pettis ... we need to be very diversified against Alabama.
As for space, we need to be thinking of ways to get Gaskin the ball in the passing game against a LB. He's shifty enough to make someone mix and if the play design is good, that could lead to a very good gain.
So in terms of offense, quick passing reads and getting the ball in space
Alabama is smaller on defense than they used to be. Line up Dissly or Sample in the pseudo, shotgun offset I and run power right at them. Guard pulls and the TE in the backfield gets anyone who filters through.
I do think it is more of a game for Coleman than Gaskin. That patient, wait for the holes shit doesnt seem like a recipe for success against Bama's speed.
Really though, UW has to commit to the run even if it's not successful. We are fucked if Bama can just pin their ears back every down.
We shouldn't even play the game is what I hear/see from most Bammer fans ...
UW doesn't have the talent to matchup because Bammer is loaded w NFL players in their 3 deeps ... too bad you dont play the 3 deeps all at one time ...
I hear we don't have a NFL defense ... yet anybody doubting that Vita, Qualls, Gaines, Bierria, Budda, Jones, King, and Rapp won't all be NFL players and almost all drafted in top 2-3 rounds.
I hear we don't have the talent on offense to cause problems ... yet anybody questioning whether Ross, Gaskin, Coleman, Pettis, Adams, Eldrenkamp, or McGary will be pros? That doesn't even include Browning (Kellen Moore career), or guys that are probably more fringe potential players like Daniels, Sample, Dissly, and Colemsn Shelton.
Nobody doubts Alabama's high end talent ... but we have pieces that can cause issues.
Solid post but you completely contradict yourself from the OL arguments when you mention 4 of 5 lineman as future pros.
Not really, because the point is UW needs more guys like Trey, Kaleb, and Eldrenkamp. They were all highly regarded (in my eyes) guys that are rare humans. That's what we need to continue building up front.
We shouldn't even play the game is what I hear/see from most Bammer fans ...
UW doesn't have the talent to matchup because Bammer is loaded w NFL players in their 3 deeps ... too bad you dont play the 3 deeps all at one time ...
I hear we don't have a NFL defense ... yet anybody doubting that Vita, Qualls, Gaines, Bierria, Budda, Jones, King, and Rapp won't all be NFL players and almost all drafted in top 2-3 rounds.
I hear we don't have the talent on offense to cause problems ... yet anybody questioning whether Ross, Gaskin, Coleman, Pettis, Adams, Eldrenkamp, or McGary will be pros? That doesn't even include Browning (Kellen Moore career), or guys that are probably more fringe potential players like Daniels, Sample, Dissly, and Colemsn Shelton.
Nobody doubts Alabama's high end talent ... but we have pieces that can cause issues.
Solid post but you completely contradict yourself from the OL arguments when you mention 4 of 5 lineman as future pros.
Not really, because the point is UW needs more guys like Trey, Kaleb, and Eldrenkamp. They were all highly regarded (in my eyes) guys that are rare humans. That's what we need to continue building up front.
Bingo ...
Our OL is upper third in the PAC at this point and the development of Adams/McGary on the edges has pushed it up into that region. Eldrenkamp has made it that when we need a yard running it up behind Adams and him can be reliable. C and RG are definitely a step behind at this point comparatively. And from a recruiting standpoint, we need MORE guys that look like Adams and McGary and move like Eldrenkamp ... that's what Dennis, Pepsi, and I have been trying to hammer home.
The reality is that if you're in the discussion of playing at this level, you need the elite OL prospects that develop into great players that can go against the opposition's elite DL prospects that have also developed into great players.
We shouldn't even play the game is what I hear/see from most Bammer fans ...
UW doesn't have the talent to matchup because Bammer is loaded w NFL players in their 3 deeps ... too bad you dont play the 3 deeps all at one time ...
I hear we don't have a NFL defense ... yet anybody doubting that Vita, Qualls, Gaines, Bierria, Budda, Jones, King, and Rapp won't all be NFL players and almost all drafted in top 2-3 rounds.
I hear we don't have the talent on offense to cause problems ... yet anybody questioning whether Ross, Gaskin, Coleman, Pettis, Adams, Eldrenkamp, or McGary will be pros? That doesn't even include Browning (Kellen Moore career), or guys that are probably more fringe potential players like Daniels, Sample, Dissly, and Colemsn Shelton.
Nobody doubts Alabama's high end talent ... but we have pieces that can cause issues.
Solid post but you completely contradict yourself from the OL arguments when you mention 4 of 5 lineman as future pros.
Not really, because the point is UW needs more guys like Trey, Kaleb, and Eldrenkamp. They were all highly regarded (in my eyes) guys that are rare humans. That's what we need to continue building up front.
Eldrenkamp didn't even start until his junior year. He's a good player, but let's not pretend like it wasn't somewhat of a surprise he turned out like he did. Tufunga, Criste, Atoe, etc were playing g over him in Petersen's first year (Eldrenkamp's r-so year).
Adams is a monster. McGary is huge and has gotten coached up. There are a lot of young guys we know next to nothing about, very similar to Eldrenkamp three years ago. Harris is a future all conference player.
UW needs good players everywhere like any other school that wants to win. We need more Vita Vea's, Sidney Jones', John Ross', Bierria's, etc. I know you get that, but how do you not see how dumb this argument has always been?
The OL is good and will most likely continue to be good. It will be one of the best OL in the country next year. But what about 2021?!!!
We shouldn't even play the game is what I hear/see from most Bammer fans ...
UW doesn't have the talent to matchup because Bammer is loaded w NFL players in their 3 deeps ... too bad you dont play the 3 deeps all at one time ...
I hear we don't have a NFL defense ... yet anybody doubting that Vita, Qualls, Gaines, Bierria, Budda, Jones, King, and Rapp won't all be NFL players and almost all drafted in top 2-3 rounds.
I hear we don't have the talent on offense to cause problems ... yet anybody questioning whether Ross, Gaskin, Coleman, Pettis, Adams, Eldrenkamp, or McGary will be pros? That doesn't even include Browning (Kellen Moore career), or guys that are probably more fringe potential players like Daniels, Sample, Dissly, and Colemsn Shelton.
Nobody doubts Alabama's high end talent ... but we have pieces that can cause issues.
Solid post but you completely contradict yourself from the OL arguments when you mention 4 of 5 lineman as future pros.
Not really, because the point is UW needs more guys like Trey, Kaleb, and Eldrenkamp. They were all highly regarded (in my eyes) guys that are rare humans. That's what we need to continue building up front.
Eldrenkamp didn't even start until his junior year. He's a good player, but let's not pretend like it wasn't somewhat of a surprise he turned out like he did. Tufunga, Criste, Atoe, etc were playing g over him in Petersen's first year (Eldrenkamp's r-so year).
Adams is a monster. McGary is huge and has gotten coached up. There are a lot of young guys we know next to nothing about, very similar to Eldrenkamp three years ago. Harris is a future all conference player.
UW needs good players everywhere like any other school that wants to win. We need more Vita Vea's, Sidney Jones', John Ross', Bierria's, etc. I know you get that, but how do you not see how dumb this argument has always been?
The OL is good and will most likely continue to be good. It will be one of the best OL in the country next year. But what about 2021?!!!
How would Shaw play Bama There's so many fucking pussies in here it make me sick. Double tight end, Ross and Pettis one on one, Use Daniels and let Coleman and Gaskin chew up yards and time of possession
Shaw would lose 58-3, but still.
I always knew you were a fucking pussy
I love smashmouth football.
David Shaw is retarded.
Hope this helps.
Boobs, you don't even watch football. You love smashmouth football? Dude, you don't even know God's formation.
You love getting your backside smashmouthed.
You love posting on message boards. We know you are on IGN boards as well. Probably 100k plus poster there.
You love tapping the WTF button because you are just like shaw. You would do anything to fluff shaw.
How would Shaw play Bama There's so many fucking pussies in here it make me sick. Double tight end, Ross and Pettis one on one, Use Daniels and let Coleman and Gaskin chew up yards and time of possession
Shaw would lose 58-3, but still.
I always knew you were a fucking pussy
I love smashmouth football.
David Shaw is retarded.
Hope this helps.
Boobs, you don't even watch football. You love smashmouth football? Dude, you don't even know God's formation.
You love getting your backside smashmouthed.
You love posting on message boards. We know you are on IGN boards as well. Probably 100k plus poster there.
You love tapping the WTF button because you are just like shaw. You would do anything to fluff shaw.
How would Shaw play Bama There's so many fucking pussies in here it make me sick. Double tight end, Ross and Pettis one on one, Use Daniels and let Coleman and Gaskin chew up yards and time of possession
Shaw would lose 58-3, but still.
I always knew you were a fucking pussy
I love smashmouth football.
David Shaw is retarded.
Hope this helps.
Boobs, you don't even watch football. You love smashmouth football? Dude, you don't even know God's formation.
You love getting your backside smashmouthed.
You love posting on message boards. We know you are on IGN boards as well. Probably 100k plus poster there.
You love tapping the WTF button because you are just like shaw. You would do anything to fluff shaw.
No one believes you are even a husky fan.
IGN post count posts will get chincredibled every time
How would Shaw play Bama There's so many fucking pussies in here it make me sick. Double tight end, Ross and Pettis one on one, Use Daniels and let Coleman and Gaskin chew up yards and time of possession
Shaw would lose 58-3, but still.
I always knew you were a fucking pussy
I love smashmouth football.
David Shaw is retarded.
Hope this helps.
Boobs, you don't even watch football. You love smashmouth football? Dude, you don't even know God's formation.
You love getting your backside smashmouthed.
You love posting on message boards. We know you are on IGN boards as well. Probably 100k plus poster there.
You love tapping the WTF button because you are just like shaw. You would do anything to fluff shaw.
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Washington, and really any team trying to beat Bama, has to be willing to change what Bama views as normal. Need to get Bama to the point where they are reacting and not trusting what it is that they are seeing ... have to find ways to show mirages
Washington's best chance of being in a position to win is all tied to the defense ... DTs have to plug the middle run and Hurts on the outside must be contained. I feel that we should be able to do some good things against the Bama screen game ... Hurts and fly sweeps on the edges are primary concern. IF we can get Hurts in spots where he has to throw down the field, I will take my chances.
HTH
2) This OL is not going to line up and run downhill consistently on Alabama ... just not happening.
3) I expect that Adams will be a 1st round pick ... McGary could get into the 2nd or 3rd round range if everything breaks right ... Eldrenkamp is probably more in the 3rd to 5th round range ... Shelton is probably more of a 3rd round pick ... there is a massive difference between saying that the guys will get looks in the NFL as mostly mid to late round picks and what is sitting on the Alabama defensive line that are most likely all top 3 round picks. If you want to have a line that is competing at the national level, you really need to have all 5 members of your line being in a position where they are potential Top 3 round picks or better and definitely having some 1st round picks there. We have a good line ... we don't have an elite line.
Run the fucking ball. Even if you aren't getting many yards. No turnovers. Shorten the game.
I thought that was interesting, and only further proves the point that if you play scared and try to beat bama with a ton of quick passes to WR's you are shooting yourself in the foot.
I'm not saying we need to go under center and power run, but this gameplan needs to involve sample and dissly heavily.
he also said that bama's oline is mostly average, which is encouraging
http://sports.mynorthwest.com/category/podcast_player/?a=10013860&sid=1007&n=Brock and Salk
the good stuff starts at about 28:00
3 and out is better than a pick 6
Ross and Pettis have a better chance of scoring as well as our defense against their shitty offense
You love getting your backside smashmouthed.
You love posting on message boards. We know you are on IGN boards as well. Probably 100k plus poster there.
You love tapping the WTF button because you are just like shaw. You would do anything to fluff shaw.
No one believes you are even a husky fan.
Our OL is upper third in the PAC at this point and the development of Adams/McGary on the edges has pushed it up into that region. Eldrenkamp has made it that when we need a yard running it up behind Adams and him can be reliable. C and RG are definitely a step behind at this point comparatively. And from a recruiting standpoint, we need MORE guys that look like Adams and McGary and move like Eldrenkamp ... that's what Dennis, Pepsi, and I have been trying to hammer home.
The reality is that if you're in the discussion of playing at this level, you need the elite OL prospects that develop into great players that can go against the opposition's elite DL prospects that have also developed into great players.
Adams is a monster. McGary is huge and has gotten coached up. There are a lot of young guys we know next to nothing about, very similar to Eldrenkamp three years ago. Harris is a future all conference player.
UW needs good players everywhere like any other school that wants to win. We need more Vita Vea's, Sidney Jones', John Ross', Bierria's, etc. I know you get that, but how do you not see how dumb this argument has always been?
The OL is good and will most likely continue to be good. It will be one of the best OL in the country next year. But what about 2021?!!!