Kaleb McGary
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Only 2 early entry MLBs were drafted in the first 2-3 rounds in the past couple of yearsdnc said:
Fuck it you're right, I am pretty concerned about LB. There's nobody that inspires confidence behind Bierria and Victor right now. I think we'll be okay next year with Bierria likely holding it down (and Victor likely in the league), but after that it's scary. Thankfully I like the talent they redshirted this year. The way those two developed makes me think somebody will step up, but I agree we haven't seen anyone do anything that inspires confidence yet.Swaye said:
Anyone at all concerned about LB post Bierra and Victor? When the JV squad is on there seems to be a pretty big drop off. Don't we have some stud LB red shirting though? I drink too much to remember all this shit.dnc said:OL is the one area where I have always thought production correlates least to recruiting rankings. Very few linemen are ready to start as true frosh, most of them need development and weight room and nutrition (yes I know that's true for every position but I've always thought it more about OL than anywhere else).
If we're going to have an area where recruiting struggles but coaching excels OL would be the one I would pick.
Given Strausser's track record and the results we're seeing now, I'm fine with him staying. I'd bet anything recruiting OL's picks up based on the success of the program and his OL anyway. Whoever the sophomore/junior Foster Sarrell's are right now are going to be much more open to UW. That will help every position of course, but I'd bet anything the combination of development/ability to spot talent/program success is going to make the OL excellent going forward.
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Typical group of dumb doogs bitching over recruiting rankings wondering why every player isnt a 5 star
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Oh are they?backthepack said:
Wellington is gonna be a nice player, same with Eifler..dnc said:
Fuck it you're right, I am pretty concerned about LB. There's nobody that inspires confidence behind Bierria and Victor right now. I think we'll be okay next year with Bierria likely holding it down (and Victor likely in the league), but after that it's scary. Thankfully I like the talent they redshirted this year. The way those two developed makes me think somebody will step up, but I agree we haven't seen anyone do anything that inspires confidence yet.Swaye said:
Anyone at all concerned about LB post Bierra and Victor? When the JV squad is on there seems to be a pretty big drop off. Don't we have some stud LB red shirting though? I drink too much to remember all this shit.dnc said:OL is the one area where I have always thought production correlates least to recruiting rankings. Very few linemen are ready to start as true frosh, most of them need development and weight room and nutrition (yes I know that's true for every position but I've always thought it more about OL than anywhere else).
If we're going to have an area where recruiting struggles but coaching excels OL would be the one I would pick.
Given Strausser's track record and the results we're seeing now, I'm fine with him staying. I'd bet anything recruiting OL's picks up based on the success of the program and his OL anyway. Whoever the sophomore/junior Foster Sarrell's are right now are going to be much more open to UW. That will help every position of course, but I'd bet anything the combination of development/ability to spot talent/program success is going to make the OL excellent going forward.
There's not really a position I'm concerned about long term other than QB post Browning. And there's plenty of time to address that.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
Wellington is an inside guy, he'll be very good and will likely replace Bierria when he leaves, and Eifler is waiting in the wings behind Victor.AIRWOLF said:
I don't think we have anybody that I feel really good at playing ILB. I think longer term things look really bright at BUCK and OLB, but I haven't seen anything to make me feel great about the inside guys.dnc said:
Fuck it you're right, I am pretty concerned about LB. There's nobody that inspires confidence behind Bierria and Victor right now. I think we'll be okay next year with Bierria likely holding it down (and Victor likely in the league), but after that it's scary. Thankfully I like the talent they redshirted this year. The way those two developed makes me think somebody will step up, but I agree we haven't seen anyone do anything that inspires confidence yet.Swaye said:
Anyone at all concerned about LB post Bierra and Victor? When the JV squad is on there seems to be a pretty big drop off. Don't we have some stud LB red shirting though? I drink too much to remember all this shit.dnc said:OL is the one area where I have always thought production correlates least to recruiting rankings. Very few linemen are ready to start as true frosh, most of them need development and weight room and nutrition (yes I know that's true for every position but I've always thought it more about OL than anywhere else).
If we're going to have an area where recruiting struggles but coaching excels OL would be the one I would pick.
Given Strausser's track record and the results we're seeing now, I'm fine with him staying. I'd bet anything recruiting OL's picks up based on the success of the program and his OL anyway. Whoever the sophomore/junior Foster Sarrell's are right now are going to be much more open to UW. That will help every position of course, but I'd bet anything the combination of development/ability to spot talent/program success is going to make the OL excellent going forward.
There's not really a position I'm concerned about long term other than QB post Browning. And there's plenty of time to address that.NEsnake12 said:
Patience is key. Bierria got some rotational work as a redshirt frosh, but both of the Victor/Bierria didn't really do anything spectacular until they were redshirt sophomores... 3rd year in the program. None of those 2nd string LBs are further than 2 years into the program, most came in the 2015 recruiting class (BBK, Tevis, DJ Beavers). Too early to completely write them off based on the pattern we saw with Victor/Bierria... though I do think that Wellington and Eifler are the future of that position.dnc said:
Fuck it you're right, I am pretty concerned about LB. There's nobody that inspires confidence behind Bierria and Victor right now. I think we'll be okay next year with Bierria likely holding it down (and Victor likely in the league), but after that it's scary. Thankfully I like the talent they redshirted this year. The way those two developed makes me think somebody will step up, but I agree we haven't seen anyone do anything that inspires confidence yet.Swaye said:
Anyone at all concerned about LB post Bierra and Victor? When the JV squad is on there seems to be a pretty big drop off. Don't we have some stud LB red shirting though? I drink too much to remember all this shit.dnc said:OL is the one area where I have always thought production correlates least to recruiting rankings. Very few linemen are ready to start as true frosh, most of them need development and weight room and nutrition (yes I know that's true for every position but I've always thought it more about OL than anywhere else).
If we're going to have an area where recruiting struggles but coaching excels OL would be the one I would pick.
Given Strausser's track record and the results we're seeing now, I'm fine with him staying. I'd bet anything recruiting OL's picks up based on the success of the program and his OL anyway. Whoever the sophomore/junior Foster Sarrell's are right now are going to be much more open to UW. That will help every position of course, but I'd bet anything the combination of development/ability to spot talent/program success is going to make the OL excellent going forward.
There's not really a position I'm concerned about long term other than QB post Browning. And there's plenty of time to address that.
Really chinsightful, adding a lot to the discussion, thanks for that.TTJ said:Swaye said:Anyone at all concerned about LB post Bierra and Victor? When the JV squad is on there seems to be a pretty big drop off. Don't we have some stud LB red shirting though? I drink too much to remember all this shit.
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This has been covered elsewhere and on our pod (where it was so bad we had to pull the plug midstream because DDY was about to kill himself or someone else) ... but the mix of numbers and quality on the OL is less than ideal ... at this point it is FS to argue otherwise ... it is the DM argument that so many here rallied against in years prior ... very amusing that it is now reversedAIRWOLF said:
Not to rehash, but the only way it doesn't match what we have been seeing elsewhere is for the current class, which is, you know, not complete yet.Tequilla said:No, recruiting actually matters ... the current state of OL recruiting is concerning ... it's the one area where the recruiting doesn't match what we see elsewhere
If you don't want DDY to try to kill himself again, I recommend fixing OL recruiting -
Fuck off with that shit.Tequilla said:
This has been covered elsewhere and on our pod (where it was so bad we had to pull the plug midstream because DDY was about to kill himself or someone else) ... but the mix of numbers and quality on the OL is less than ideal ... at this point it is FS to argue otherwise ... it is the DM argument that so many here rallied against in years prior ... very amusing that it is now reversedAIRWOLF said:
Not to rehash, but the only way it doesn't match what we have been seeing elsewhere is for the current class, which is, you know, not complete yet.Tequilla said:No, recruiting actually matters ... the current state of OL recruiting is concerning ... it's the one area where the recruiting doesn't match what we see elsewhere
If you don't want DDY to try to kill himself again, I recommend fixing OL recruiting
We? never had a good OL in years prior, let alone best in the conference. If people's attitudes are different it's probably because the results are different. At this point it is FS to argue otherwise.
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Wouldn't it be nice if our OL recruiting just matched the rest of our recruiting?Tequilla said:
This has been covered elsewhere and on our pod (where it was so bad we had to pull the plug midstream because DDY was about to kill himself or someone else) ... but the mix of numbers and quality on the OL is less than ideal ... at this point it is FS to argue otherwise ... it is the DM argument that so many here rallied against in years prior ... very amusing that it is now reversedAIRWOLF said:
Not to rehash, but the only way it doesn't match what we have been seeing elsewhere is for the current class, which is, you know, not complete yet.Tequilla said:No, recruiting actually matters ... the current state of OL recruiting is concerning ... it's the one area where the recruiting doesn't match what we see elsewhere
If you don't want DDY to try to kill himself again, I recommend fixing OL recruiting
I'm in LIPO mode right now (took a drive for some perspective), but we'll see how we do following NLOI day. -
This fucking debate again.
I'll only bitch about the line recruiting when the line sucks.
Lag effect will take place with the premier recruits down the line.
Strausser is doing his job.
Pretty much every recruit TSIO podcast has blasted before stepping on campus has been productive early in their careers, usually leap frogging the higher ranked guys.
I'm starting a podcast called Let it play out, you don't know shit.
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Poster #1 (weekly from July through January): For the 1,000th time, here's another 20-paragraph post about how I am justifiably and unequivocally worried about offensive line recruiting.
Poster #2 (February 2017): Wow, Poster #1, did you see where Sarrel and Bainivalu signed with the Huskies today. So much for all the gnashing of teeth, huh?
Poster #1 (February 2017): You must have not seen in my ninth paragraph where I said "Let it play out."
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The 2014 OL class was pretty poor, but it was also the transition class.Tequilla said:
This has been covered elsewhere and on our pod (where it was so bad we had to pull the plug midstream because DDY was about to kill himself or someone else) ... but the mix of numbers and quality on the OL is less than ideal ... at this point it is FS to argue otherwiseAIRWOLF said:
Not to rehash, but the only way it doesn't match what we have been seeing elsewhere is for the current class, which is, you know, not complete yet.Tequilla said:No, recruiting actually matters ... the current state of OL recruiting is concerning ... it's the one area where the recruiting doesn't match what we see elsewhere
In 2015 & 2016, the apparent quality, based on recruiting rankings, was right in line with the rest of those classes. I would have preferred at least one more linemen in those two classes, but that is that one recruit the difference between a crisis that you have to be fucking stupid not to see and everything being just dandy?
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I was thinking about this Saturday when Aaron Fuller scored, but I couldn't remember who was trashing him on signing day. 4 true freshmen getting playing time, and two of those four are Fuller and Nick Harris, both shit on by our resident TBS'ers.Doogles said:This fucking debate again.
I'll only bitch about the line recruiting when the line sucks.
Lag effect will take place with the premier recruits down the line.
Strausser is doing his job.
Pretty much every recruit TSIO podcast has blasted before stepping on campus has been productive early in their careers, usually leap frogging the higher ranked guys.
I'm starting a podcast called Let it play out, you don't know shit.
or
LIPO, YDKS Podcast
I remember someone saying Fuller had the worst tape for a D1 receiver he'd ever seen. Well, kid can ball.
