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Aetna Ditching 70% Obamacare Business

pawz
pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,425 Founders Club
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  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510

    The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option.

    In other words, they tried for single payer, but the (R)s forced this compromise for reform, because the insurance company lobbyists bought off the (R)s.


  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.

    Hope it happens!
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.

    Yes the Democrats had some brilliant plan to add 30 million people to insurance company rolls. Then after than, let's get rid of insurance companies.

    How about both parties look at Obamacare and fix some shit with it. Rather than sit here and do nothing about bitch about it.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    OZONE said:

    The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option.

    In other words, they tried for single payer, but the (R)s forced this compromise for reform, because the insurance company lobbyists bought off the (R)s.


    No R votes were required for anything to do with this abortion of a bill. It is fully owned by Obama and the democrats.

    Every R voted against Obamacare You lie about as effectively as Hillary
    I think his point was that single payer could never make it through a filibuster, so this was the best they could do.

    You're right by the way.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,425 Founders Club
    edited August 2016
    2001400ex said:

    This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.

    Yes the Democrats had some brilliant plan to add 30 million people to insurance company rolls. Then after than, let's get rid of insurance companies.

    How about both parties look at Obamacare and fix some shit with it. Rather than sit here and do nothing about bitch about it.
    FIFTH !!
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    OZONE said:

    The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option.

    In other words, they tried for single payer, but the (R)s forced this compromise for reform, because the insurance company lobbyists bought off the (R)s.


    It was a 100% partisan vote, but I'm sure you already knew that. Check your facts.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.

    Yes the Democrats had some brilliant plan to add 30 million people to insurance company rolls. Then after than, let's get rid of insurance companies.

    How about both parties look at Obamacare and fix some shit with it. Rather than sit here and do nothing about bitch about it.
    The brilliant idea of adding 30 million sick people that insurance companies couldn't charge proper premium for? Sounds like a great business deal if you ask me.
    Did you hear one insurance company complain about Obamacare?

    Didn't think so.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    My favorite part of Obamacare, is how the bill ultimately just insures payment of medical liabilities and doesn't keep the costs imposed by the medical cartel in check.

    So there is that.

    Actually it does specify certain cost limits. But how are you stupid?
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,425 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.

    Yes the Democrats had some brilliant plan to add 30 million people to insurance company rolls. Then after than, let's get rid of insurance companies.

    How about both parties look at Obamacare and fix some shit with it. Rather than sit here and do nothing about bitch about it.
    The brilliant idea of adding 30 million sick people that insurance companies couldn't charge proper premium for? Sounds like a great business deal if you ask me.
    Did you hear one insurance company complain about Obamacare?

    Didn't think so.
    If the OP isn't a medical insurer's indictment on obamacare, I don't know what is.

    Honda Fucking Stupid
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.

    Yes the Democrats had some brilliant plan to add 30 million people to insurance company rolls. Then after than, let's get rid of insurance companies.

    How about both parties look at Obamacare and fix some shit with it. Rather than sit here and do nothing about bitch about it.
    The brilliant idea of adding 30 million sick people that insurance companies couldn't charge proper premium for? Sounds like a great business deal if you ask me.
    Did you hear one insurance company complain about Obamacare?

    Didn't think so.
    If the OP isn't a medical insurer's indictment on obamacare, I don't know what is.

    Honda Fucking Stupid
    Again. When Obamacare was being passed, did you hear one insurance company come out against Obamacare?

    Is it Obama's fault that some insurance companies priced their exchange plans incorrectly? How about insurance companies take personal responsibility for their own fuck up.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.

    Yes the Democrats had some brilliant plan to add 30 million people to insurance company rolls. Then after than, let's get rid of insurance companies.

    How about both parties look at Obamacare and fix some shit with it. Rather than sit here and do nothing about bitch about it.
    The brilliant idea of adding 30 million sick people that insurance companies couldn't charge proper premium for? Sounds like a great business deal if you ask me.
    Did you hear one insurance company complain about Obamacare?

    Didn't think so.
    If the OP isn't a medical insurer's indictment on obamacare, I don't know what is.

    Honda Fucking Stupid
    Again. When Obamacare was being passed, did you hear one insurance company come out against Obamacare?

    Is it Obama's fault that some insurance companies priced their exchange plans incorrectly? How about insurance companies take personal responsibility for their own fuck up.
    It's Obama's fault that his plan pledged government support to the insurers that he was not able to secure.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.

    Yes the Democrats had some brilliant plan to add 30 million people to insurance company rolls. Then after than, let's get rid of insurance companies.

    How about both parties look at Obamacare and fix some shit with it. Rather than sit here and do nothing about bitch about it.
    The brilliant idea of adding 30 million sick people that insurance companies couldn't charge proper premium for? Sounds like a great business deal if you ask me.
    Did you hear one insurance company complain about Obamacare?

    Didn't think so.
    If the OP isn't a medical insurer's indictment on obamacare, I don't know what is.

    Honda Fucking Stupid
    Again. When Obamacare was being passed, did you hear one insurance company come out against Obamacare?

    Is it Obama's fault that some insurance companies priced their exchange plans incorrectly? How about insurance companies take personal responsibility for their own fuck up.
    It's Obama's fault that his plan pledged government support to the insurers that he was not able to secure.
    RACIST!!!1111
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    Aetna threatened to pull out of Obamacare if their merger with Humana was blocked. But how is our private healthcare system shittier than single payer?
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    edited August 2016
    Obamacare is a shitty product, but acting like the Republicans have taken the high road on healthcare is so fucking laughable that I'm not even going to go into it. Look back to the Bush-era prescription drug handout for a little taste.

    Pass single payer and raise the tax ceiling for fucks sake and join the rest of the civilized world.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,662 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2016
    Obama care was written and ready to go prior to Obingo being president. Written by the Apollo Alliance. You can look them up, quite interesting.

    It has to fail. We can not afford it. We are not entitled to health care at others expense. Get over it.



  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    Obama care was written and ready to go prior to Obingo being president. Written by the Apollo group. You can look them up, quite interesting.

    It has to fail. We can not afford it. We are not entitled to health care at others expense. Get over it.



    Do you realize you are lying? Or you just believe every random rumor you hear?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,662 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Obama care was written and ready to go prior to Obingo being president. Written by the Apollo group. You can look them up, quite interesting.

    It has to fail. We can not afford it. We are not entitled to health care at others expense. Get over it.



    Do you realize you are lying? Or you just believe every random rumor you hear?
    So you looked it up? Nope.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    ITT: people who like paying more for less.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.

    Yes the Democrats had some brilliant plan to add 30 million people to insurance company rolls. Then after than, let's get rid of insurance companies.

    How about both parties look at Obamacare and fix some shit with it. Rather than sit here and do nothing about bitch about it.
    The brilliant idea of adding 30 million sick people that insurance companies couldn't charge proper premium for? Sounds like a great business deal if you ask me.
    Did you hear one insurance company complain about Obamacare?

    Didn't think so.
    No...because they were promised repayment of shortages by the federal government. Then the federal government realized that paying off insurance companies with tax payers dollars wouldn't look good, so they turned face on that, and told the insurance companies to pound sand. Which is why we are where we are at.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited August 2016
    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.

    Yes the Democrats had some brilliant plan to add 30 million people to insurance company rolls. Then after than, let's get rid of insurance companies.

    How about both parties look at Obamacare and fix some shit with it. Rather than sit here and do nothing about bitch about it.
    The brilliant idea of adding 30 million sick people that insurance companies couldn't charge proper premium for? Sounds like a great business deal if you ask me.
    Did you hear one insurance company complain about Obamacare?

    Didn't think so.
    If the OP isn't a medical insurer's indictment on obamacare, I don't know what is.

    Honda Fucking Stupid
    Again. When Obamacare was being passed, did you hear one insurance company come out against Obamacare?

    Is it Obama's fault that some insurance companies priced their exchange plans incorrectly? How about insurance companies take personal responsibility for their own fuck up.
    Again the pricing had government incentives built into it. The government reneged on their promise, so the insurance companies were left with the bill.

    But I agree with you on one thing. They did fuck up by believing the goods that Obama's administration had promised them would actually come through.