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Regarding Houston Meeting with Larry Scott
Tequilla
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Likely the beginning of the next shake up of trying to get 4 conferences of 16 schools.
PAC needs 4 schools
SEC, ACC, and Big 10 all need 2 schools
Big 12 has 10 schools ... presence of ND makes 11 ... but would be pretty much bound to ACC.
Oklahoma and Texas are obviously the big prizes ... I don't think that there's any chance Oklahoma and Oklahoma don't show up somewhere together.
Kansas may be a fit for the Big 10 because of basketball.
West Virginia probably has somewhere to go whether ACC or Big 10 ... they bring enough to the table.
Iowa State and KState are really basketball schools that probably don't have a home for football.
The non-Texas Texas-based Big 12 schools all have some issues. Tech is the biggest but in the worst location and not really any kind of academic pedigree (#RaiderRash) ... TCU has good programs and academics but the "C" could turn some off as well it being a smaller private school versus large state school ... Baylor is even more of a religion problem than TCU and is facing more uncertainty with what is going on with their football program not to mention the location is shit.
Then you have the non Power 5 schools that have some kind of asset that they bring to the table ... this includes Boise, UConn, Houston, UCF, and Memphis.
Nothing works for the PAC without starting with the Oklahoma schools. I doubt Boise can get their academics up enough or brings really enough to the table (across the board) to warrant inclusion. Probably have to bite the bullet with Texas. That leaves 1 remaining spot for another Texas school. I'd expect the split then to go PAC8 vs New8.
PAC needs 4 schools
SEC, ACC, and Big 10 all need 2 schools
Big 12 has 10 schools ... presence of ND makes 11 ... but would be pretty much bound to ACC.
Oklahoma and Texas are obviously the big prizes ... I don't think that there's any chance Oklahoma and Oklahoma don't show up somewhere together.
Kansas may be a fit for the Big 10 because of basketball.
West Virginia probably has somewhere to go whether ACC or Big 10 ... they bring enough to the table.
Iowa State and KState are really basketball schools that probably don't have a home for football.
The non-Texas Texas-based Big 12 schools all have some issues. Tech is the biggest but in the worst location and not really any kind of academic pedigree (#RaiderRash) ... TCU has good programs and academics but the "C" could turn some off as well it being a smaller private school versus large state school ... Baylor is even more of a religion problem than TCU and is facing more uncertainty with what is going on with their football program not to mention the location is shit.
Then you have the non Power 5 schools that have some kind of asset that they bring to the table ... this includes Boise, UConn, Houston, UCF, and Memphis.
Nothing works for the PAC without starting with the Oklahoma schools. I doubt Boise can get their academics up enough or brings really enough to the table (across the board) to warrant inclusion. Probably have to bite the bullet with Texas. That leaves 1 remaining spot for another Texas school. I'd expect the split then to go PAC8 vs New8.
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CHRIST
This meeting meant nothing for the PAC. The next round of realignment is not starting in Houston.
This meeting was all about the Houston AD trying to leverage the threat of the PAC in Texas into a seat at the Big 12 table.
In your opinion, after we snubbed OU and Texas would they even consider coming to the PAC?
We know who Larry Scott is as a commish (miles better than Tom Hansen, but that's not saying much), It will be fascinating to see how bold the Big XII gets. If it was me I would target the LA schools and then the Ariz schools or Utah/Colorado (the prize is obviously SC/UCLA the others are geographical tie in's and don't move the needle much, but if it sells the LA schools I would let them pick).
There's currently 5 power conferences with 4 superconferences the end game. The SEC and Big Ten are locks. It's between the ACC/BIG XII and us for the final two spots. I believe the ACC can pull enough of their bb schools (Syracuse/Pitt/etc) in to get 16. That leaves us and the Big XII for the final spot, and in typical Pac-12 fashion we had the first chance and fucked the dog.
Academis, geography, tradition, prestige, Olympic sports, demographics...Big 12 will be squeezed out if anyone is but at this point I think 5 major conferences is a more likely status quo.
We? lose