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Regarding Houston Meeting with Larry Scott

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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    Gladstone said:

    ESPN is going to launch the ACC Network. So that's 3 out of 4. It's between the Big12 and the Pac.

    We? lose

    Come up with a realistic conference realignment that cuts out the PAC.

    Sorry to interrupt the self-hate session but it's not happening.
    Current XII plus AZ and CA schools.

    You're welcome.
    So the Cali schools are going to abandon Washington and Oregon to go play West Virginia? Ohok.gif.

    We already saw during the last realignment that the Big12 was in the weakest position by far due to having the smallest footprint by population, their location getting squeezed in between three other conferences, and the unequal sharing of power between Texas and the rest. Those issues have only worsened with the defections and the incursion of the SEC into Texas.


    There is no PAC school that makes sense as an expansion target for other schools culturally, geographically, or economically. Which is why there has never even been a rumor floated of such happening.

    Washington and Oregon (and their little brothers) aren't going to be left out in favor of WVU and Iowa State.
    People forget that ESPN runs college sports.

    Why do they need the Pacific Northwest?
    Nike and Seattle.

    Why do they need Iowa State, West Virginia, Baylor, Kansas State, or Texas Tech?
    Nike is a fading brand and the NBA proved you don't need Seattle to grow your revenues.

    You do point out several schools that can die in a fire though. The eventual culling of two mediocre conferences into the Western power conference will be interesting.
    Did boobs fall and hit his head?
    Ask @TheChart about NKE
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    rodmansragerodmansrage Member Posts: 6,026
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    salemcoog said:

    Congratulations to the Coog and Boobie. You've managed to out stupid Tequilla in this thread. At least Sven's stupidity is mostly shtick.

    Under Armour sucks, especially the shoes. They've never had one cool cleat or basketball shoe. It's a brand for middle aged white men.

    College football wise, Nike has Alabama, Ohio State, Florida State, Michigan... Basically every blue blood program or elite program other than Notre Dame. They aren't going anywhere.

    Not real marketing major are you Doogie?


    Kids care about what the professional players wear 1000 x more than they care about what college teams are wearing. Nike isn't automatically getting the blue chip pro stars as they used to.

    I hope that offered a little insight as you chat back and forth with Chest about pre-season SRS rankings. Give him my best will ya.
    Christ. I hope you're trolling. Nike doesn't have Curry and Tom Brady. That's it. Curry blew up after signing with Under Armour. His shoes still suck. His most recent release was rightfully destroyed online.The only reason he is with UA is because Nike hardly cared.

    You don't think Nike gets the next LeBron? Nobody, or at least very few in the basketball world thinks Under Armour basketball shoes are cool. When LeBron retires, Nike will have a new LeBron. LeBron can still release shoes and gear after retirement like another guy named Michael Jordan.

    Almost every big college football team is with Nike. Same for basketball (Kentucky, Duke, UNC (Jordan), Michigan State). Nike has the inside track to 90% of good players from the best college teams. That's not important though, right?
    i think he's serious, i think he LOVES the steph curry line of shoes. im gonna guess this is @salemcoog

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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    @Tequilla, the Big 12 sucks. I can agree there. I didn't even read most of the thread. I was talking about how you're a moron in general. It had little to do with this thread.

    You aren't even worth taking the gloves off with
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    Tequilla said:

    @Tequilla, the Big 12 sucks. I can agree there. I didn't even read most of the thread. I was talking about how you're a moron in general. It had little to do with this thread.

    You aren't even worth taking the gloves off with
    Why are you saying that like it's a bad thing?
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    Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,861
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    I'm very wary of Texass because of how they almost single handidly destroyed the Big 12, and at the least weakened it. They bring a lot to the table, but they're a school that needs to be kept in check, and a guy like Larry Scott and the ivory tower, p.c. West Coast types aren't the people to do it.
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    godawgstgodawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,409
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    I'm very wary of Texass because of how they almost single handidly destroyed the Big 12, and at the least weakened it. They bring a lot to the table, but they're a school that needs to be kept in check, and a guy like Larry Scott and the ivory tower, p.c. West Coast types aren't the people to do it.

    Your right that the Pac won't be able to keep Texas in check, and your going to take a lot of shit for giving them special deals, but I'd rather have them in the conf. and defend that position versus bitching/moaning/whining/ and having to try and sell the rest of CFB why the newly form West Coast Conference consisting of The current Pac-12 and Colorado State/BYU/Boise/Fresno St/San Diego State/San Jose State but minus UCLA and SC) is a 16 team power conf. just like the other four but gets no respect from the evil east coast bias media and thus gets screwed every year come 8 team playoff time.
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    ArtBrilesArtBriles Member Posts: 167
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    @Tequilla, the Big 12 sucks. I can agree there. I didn't even read most of the thread. I was talking about how you're a moron in general. It had little to do with this thread.

    Deserves its own thread.
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    FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,712
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    godawgst said:

    I'm very wary of Texass because of how they almost single handidly destroyed the Big 12, and at the least weakened it. They bring a lot to the table, but they're a school that needs to be kept in check, and a guy like Larry Scott and the ivory tower, p.c. West Coast types aren't the people to do it.

    Your right that the Pac won't be able to keep Texas in check, and your going to take a lot of shit for giving them special deals, but I'd rather have them in the conf. and defend that position versus bitching/moaning/whining/ and having to try and sell the rest of CFB why the newly form West Coast Conference consisting of The current Pac-12 and Colorado State/BYU/Boise/Fresno St/San Diego State/San Jose State but minus UCLA and SC) is a 16 team power conf. just like the other four but gets no respect from the evil east coast bias media and thus gets screwed every year come 8 team playoff time.
    Oh so now UCLA and USC are going to leave Cal and Stanford too? It gets better and better.
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    godawgstgodawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,409
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    godawgst said:

    I'm very wary of Texass because of how they almost single handidly destroyed the Big 12, and at the least weakened it. They bring a lot to the table, but they're a school that needs to be kept in check, and a guy like Larry Scott and the ivory tower, p.c. West Coast types aren't the people to do it.

    Your right that the Pac won't be able to keep Texas in check, and your going to take a lot of shit for giving them special deals, but I'd rather have them in the conf. and defend that position versus bitching/moaning/whining/ and having to try and sell the rest of CFB why the newly form West Coast Conference consisting of The current Pac-12 and Colorado State/BYU/Boise/Fresno St/San Diego State/San Jose State but minus UCLA and SC) is a 16 team power conf. just like the other four but gets no respect from the evil east coast bias media and thus gets screwed every year come 8 team playoff time.
    Oh so now UCLA and USC are going to leave Cal and Stanford too? It gets better and better.
    #1) USC/UCLA could each play one of them every year and then alternate.

    #2) Until 10 years ago, do you really think SC/UCLA gave two shits or sweated playing either one of them b.h (before Harbaugh)

    #3) By your logic, if it ever came down to us having to stay in the irrelevant Pac-12 (for whatever reason) or move to the BIG XII we would stay so as not to ruin the rivalry and history of playing the Oregon Schools. I for one couldn't stand the thought of missing out on the Beavs (and before 1994 and Phil Knight happened) the Ducks.

    If SC ever thought the Pac-12 was odd man in the superconference sweepstakes they would be holding open interviews w/ the other conferences before the week was out and would let the whole world know it.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    Tequilla said:

    Likely the beginning of the next shake up of trying to get 4 conferences of 16 schools.

    PAC needs 4 schools
    SEC, ACC, and Big 10 all need 2 schools

    Big 12 has 10 schools ... presence of ND makes 11 ... but would be pretty much bound to ACC.

    Oklahoma and Texas are obviously the big prizes ... I don't think that there's any chance Oklahoma and Oklahoma don't show up somewhere together.

    Kansas may be a fit for the Big 10 because of basketball.

    West Virginia probably has somewhere to go whether ACC or Big 10 ... they bring enough to the table.

    Iowa State and KState are really basketball schools that probably don't have a home for football.

    The non-Texas Texas-based Big 12 schools all have some issues. Tech is the biggest but in the worst location and not really any kind of academic pedigree (#RaiderRash) ... TCU has good programs and academics but the "C" could turn some off as well it being a smaller private school versus large state school ... Baylor is even more of a religion problem than TCU and is facing more uncertainty with what is going on with their football program not to mention the location is shit.

    Then you have the non Power 5 schools that have some kind of asset that they bring to the table ... this includes Boise, UConn, Houston, UCF, and Memphis.

    Nothing works for the PAC without starting with the Oklahoma schools. I doubt Boise can get their academics up enough or brings really enough to the table (across the board) to warrant inclusion. Probably have to bite the bullet with Texas. That leaves 1 remaining spot for another Texas school. I'd expect the split then to go PAC8 vs New8.

    If I was an executive, even if good answers were found here, I wouldn't sift through all the BS to find the good suggestions
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