Murray and Chriss Sell the Couch
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This is fucktarded even by your standardsRoadDawg55 said:Hawes was soft and overrated, but he didn't set the program back at all. Neither did any other one and done at UW.
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Don't mistake his sickness for being soft. When he was healthy he was a fucking beast. He fucked Big Baby up and talked massive shit.
box score: http://www.seattlepi.com/sports/article/Huskies-LSU-box-score-1223001.php
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Aron Baynes says hi!Gladstone said:Don't mistake his sickness for being soft. When he was healthy he was a fucking beast. He fucked Big Baby up and talked massive shit.
box score: http://www.seattlepi.com/sports/article/Huskies-LSU-box-score-1223001.php -
Baynes always played us* well. Hawes didn't play in that 40 point road loss (wow).
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not sure i follow the baynes comment
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12-1 and buying into the Clippers... Okay man.Tequilla said:
This is fucktarded even by your standardsRoadDawg55 said:Hawes was soft and overrated, but he didn't set the program back at all. Neither did any other one and done at UW.
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PressingRoadDawg55 said:
12-1 and buying into the Clippers... Okay man.Tequilla said:
This is fucktarded even by your standardsRoadDawg55 said:Hawes was soft and overrated, but he didn't set the program back at all. Neither did any other one and done at UW.
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The Hawes' teams problem was two fold.
1. Romar sucks. Hawes, Brock, Pondexter, and Dentmon all played in the NBA. Oliver averaged 20 a game at San Jose State. The team had talent although the guard play was lacking.
2. The PAC 10 was actually good. UCLA was making final 4's back then. The Lopez twins, Taj Gibson, Baynes... Don't be fooled by where he was drafted, Hawes wasn't better than any of those guys. -
The problem with your first point is that you're completely missing the mark of the difference between talent and a good team. Yes, all those guys had talent. But if you go look at all the guys you talked about, you have freshman, sophomore, freshman, sophomore, and freshman. Even if Romar didn't suck, when you combine with how good the PAC was, even a good coach would probably struggle to get them past the first weekend of the NCAA. You are also forgetting that Pondexter was a shell of what he would be as a freshman and Dentmon really struggled as he had to shoulder more of the load.RoadDawg55 said:The Hawes' teams problem was two fold.
1. Romar sucks. Hawes, Brock, Pondexter, and Dentmon all played in the NBA. Oliver averaged 20 a game at San Jose State. The team had talent although the guard play was lacking.
2. The PAC 10 was actually good. UCLA was making final 4's back then. The Lopez twins, Taj Gibson, Baynes... Don't be fooled by where he was drafted, Hawes wasn't better than any of those guys.
But the biggest problem that you are missing the point on, which I'll go back to your original fucktarded comment, was that the problem with talented young players and one and dones isn't that they are inconsistent and can leave a hole in your program if you're putting all the eggs in their basket, but it's that you win with these kinds of players when you are supplementing them with other experienced players that can shoulder the load.
The remaining players on that roster:
Ryan Appleby
Phil Nelson
Hans Gasser
Artem Wallace
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What the fuck are you even trying to tell me?Tequilla said:
The problem with your first point is that you're completely missing the mark of the difference between talent and a good team. Yes, all those guys had talent. But if you go look at all the guys you talked about, you have freshman, sophomore, freshman, sophomore, and freshman. Even if Romar didn't suck, when you combine with how good the PAC was, even a good coach would probably struggle to get them past the first weekend of the NCAA. You are also forgetting that Pondexter was a shell of what he would be as a freshman and Dentmon really struggled as he had to shoulder more of the load.RoadDawg55 said:The Hawes' teams problem was two fold.
1. Romar sucks. Hawes, Brock, Pondexter, and Dentmon all played in the NBA. Oliver averaged 20 a game at San Jose State. The team had talent although the guard play was lacking.
2. The PAC 10 was actually good. UCLA was making final 4's back then. The Lopez twins, Taj Gibson, Baynes... Don't be fooled by where he was drafted, Hawes wasn't better than any of those guys.
But the biggest problem that you are missing the point on, which I'll go back to your original fucktarded comment, was that the problem with talented young players and one and dones isn't that they are inconsistent and can leave a hole in your program if you're putting all the eggs in their basket, but it's that you win with these kinds of players when you are supplementing them with other experienced players that can shoulder the load.
The remaining players on that roster:
Ryan Appleby
Phil Nelson
Hans Gasser
Artem Wallace
Brandon Burmeister
I fully agree that you need to supplement one and dones with good upperclassmen. Everyone does.
Disagree on Pondexter. He averaged 15 a game in non conference. We all loved him. He scored 25 in one half against Arizona. Romar completely broke him down an it continued to mid way through his junior year.
