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godawgst
godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,606 Swaye's Wigwam
I still believe that CP is smart enough to design a offense capable of winning games in the Pac-12. Last year I think they had a qb (Miles) who was simply not close to pac-12 caliber (on a side note can you imagine what the coaching staff was thinking spring ball 2014 watching Lindy/Williams. After that first week of practice, the only thing going thru their heads was "oh my god, but at least we have Cyler for fall camp. We will be okay with him".

Fast forward to fall camp 2014 after first week of practice with all three there, and their thoughts had to be "we are fucked"

This year they have a freshman qb who's not physically ready and has freshman moments, with freshman (true and rf) ol blocking for him, a freshman rb who they like but don't want to kill him by giving it to him 30 times a game, along with a baaaad group of wr's. That recipe is not going to work period end of story.

So with that being said:

1st: If we are having this conversation a year from now about the Huskies Offense and their level of ineptitude than I will lead the masses in saying CP is not the man and accepting the fact that UW football as I grew up with in the late 70's-mid 90's is dead and not coming back for a very very long time.

2nd: If he gets rid of Smith as oc and/or changes his teams culture/identity on offense in the offseason, would that bring you back in the boat for him?

Like others have said, this team on D next year is Pac-12 North WINNING (not competing for but ACTUALLY WINNING) level, but the offense has to be average/slightly above average to get there.
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  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,733
    You are a brave soul.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,424 Standard Supporter
    godawgst said:

    I still believe that CP is smart enough to design a offense capable of winning games in the Pac-12. Last year I think they had a qb (Miles) who was simply not close to pac-12 caliber (on a side note can you imagine what the coaching staff was thinking spring ball 2014 watching Lindy/Williams. After that first week of practice, the only thing going thru their heads was "oh my god, but at least we have Cyler for fall camp. We will be okay with him".

    Fast forward to fall camp 2014 after first week of practice with all three there, and their thoughts had to be "we are fucked"

    This year they have a freshman qb who's not physically ready and has freshman moments, with freshman (true and rf) ol blocking for him, a freshman rb who they like but don't want to kill him by giving it to him 30 times a game, along with a baaaad group of wr's. That recipe is not going to work period end of story.

    So with that being said:

    1st: If we are having this conversation a year from now about the Huskies Offense and their level of ineptitude than I will lead the masses in saying CP is not the man and accepting the fact that UW football as I grew up with in the late 70's-mid 90's is dead and not coming back for a very very long time.

    2nd: If he gets rid of Smith as oc and/or changes his teams culture/identity on offense in the offseason, would that bring you back in the boat for him?

    Like others have said, this team on D next year is Pac-12 North WINNING (not competing for but ACTUALLY WINNING) level, but the offense has to be average/slightly above average to get there.

    The WR's only started to be considered bad once the season started. I could have sworn there were tons of posts sucking off Pettis and Lenius before the season. Even that piece of shit Mickens was twice the player as a sophomore as he is now. Perkins and Daniels are decent to good TE's.

    They aren't the most talented group in the conference, but they are more of an example of baaad coaching than truly sucking.
  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,606 Swaye's Wigwam

    godawgst said:

    I still believe that CP is smart enough to design a offense capable of winning games in the Pac-12. Last year I think they had a qb (Miles) who was simply not close to pac-12 caliber (on a side note can you imagine what the coaching staff was thinking spring ball 2014 watching Lindy/Williams. After that first week of practice, the only thing going thru their heads was "oh my god, but at least we have Cyler for fall camp. We will be okay with him".

    Fast forward to fall camp 2014 after first week of practice with all three there, and their thoughts had to be "we are fucked"

    This year they have a freshman qb who's not physically ready and has freshman moments, with freshman (true and rf) ol blocking for him, a freshman rb who they like but don't want to kill him by giving it to him 30 times a game, along with a baaaad group of wr's. That recipe is not going to work period end of story.

    So with that being said:

    1st: If we are having this conversation a year from now about the Huskies Offense and their level of ineptitude than I will lead the masses in saying CP is not the man and accepting the fact that UW football as I grew up with in the late 70's-mid 90's is dead and not coming back for a very very long time.

    2nd: If he gets rid of Smith as oc and/or changes his teams culture/identity on offense in the offseason, would that bring you back in the boat for him?

    Like others have said, this team on D next year is Pac-12 North WINNING (not competing for but ACTUALLY WINNING) level, but the offense has to be average/slightly above average to get there.

    The WR's only started to be considered bad once the season started. I could have sworn there were tons of posts sucking off Pettis and Lenius before the season. Even that piece of shit Mickens was twice the player as a sophomore as he is now. Perkins and Daniels are decent to good TE's.

    They aren't the most talented group in the conference, but they are more of an example of baaad coaching than truly sucking.
    I wasn't in the camp of Pettis/Lenius being all conf, and people built their expectations up because that's all we had coming back this season. What did each of these kids have for catches last year? Around 10. That doesn't even begin to give you a sample size.

    Here is what I know about the group. Mickens/Hall we can't wait to graduate. Pettis/Lenius are not producing and getting targeted very little, and what is behind them (McClatcher/Renfro) aren't ready yet.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,523
    You definitely have a point regarding things like poor play calling and people have made a strong case for why they should've gone for it on 4th and 1, but he's definitely had this team ready to compete this year as each loss came down to the last drive.

    Nothing anyone in here can do about it, but the signs are already pointing to him not being the guy. The team not showing up ready to compete, poor play calling, poor clock management, slow to change. We'll see. The defense and special teams have improved, but his area of expertise is offense and that has sucked balls ever since he took over.

  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,150 Standard Supporter
    To OP:

    Yes, if the defense maintains this level and the offense is just average in the Pac 12 next year, this team can do some things next year, IMO. It's one reason I'm not on a ledge yet (gayme threads and 12-24 hours after a game don't count as we're all lunatics then).