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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    That young OL was kicking the shit out of Cal in the running game last Saturday. They are young and bad, but Sark had some OL's that were as bad or worse. Greg Christine, Nick Wood, a freshman Shane Brostek, Atoe, Criste...

    You can build an offensive identity behind running the ball down hill, quick slants and comeback routes, the occasional boot & playaction plays, and an occasional play action leading to a deep shot down the field.

    Not only is the identity a problem, but trying to figure out what pieces are your most useful on offense and playing to those strengths is very lacking. Expecting a lot out of the WR is probably foolish because we have a lot of either JAGs or young players that lack consistency.
    Sounds like a coaching issue to me.
    Quite honestly, I don't get what you are arguing about. He has acknowledged that coaching is the problem with a lack of identity. This whole back and forth is absolutely stoopid.

    The only difference between your two arguments is that one thinks it should be blown up right now and that Petersen isn't the guy, and the other wants to see what happens at the end of the season.

    Christ.
    That is NOT the only difference. And I haven't said Petersen isn't the guy.

    Thanks for reading?
    Haven't been able to read every single post in the back and forth between you and others.

    What would you like to see done then? Just so we can get that out there in one spot I guess.
    If that means firing Smith and getting an OC that knows wtf he is doing, fine. If Pete needs to ditch his shitty system that hasn't worked in years, fine. Whatever it is, it ultimately falls on Petersen to win or GTFO.

    Thanks for basically paraphrasing just about everything I've said over the course of the last week.

    I'm convinced that you don't have a fucking clue what you're arguing about at this point. You're arguing just for the sake of arguing.
    Bullshit. You joined HuskyInAZ's fountain of youth campaign from the start.

    And now you want to wait to fix glaring problems.

    If you can't tell the difference, then I really can't help you.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,259
    Houhusky said:

    Tequilla said:

    That young OL was kicking the shit out of Cal in the running game last Saturday. They are young and bad, but Sark had some OL's that were as bad or worse. Greg Christine, Nick Wood, a freshman Shane Brostek, Atoe, Criste...

    You can build an offensive identity behind running the ball down hill, quick slants and comeback routes, the occasional boot & playaction plays, and an occasional play action leading to a deep shot down the field.

    Not only is the identity a problem, but trying to figure out what pieces are your most useful on offense and playing to those strengths is very lacking. Expecting a lot out of the WR is probably foolish because we have a lot of either JAGs or young players that lack consistency.
    Sounds like a coaching issue to me.
    Quite honestly, I don't get what you are arguing about. He has acknowledged that coaching is the problem with a lack of identity. This whole back and forth is absolutely stoopid.

    The only difference between your two arguments is that one thinks it should be blown up right now and that Petersen isn't the guy, and the other wants to see what happens at the end of the season.

    Christ.

    Something needs to be done about it, right fucking now, @Tequilla would have UW and Petersen wait until the season is over, but fails to realize the season is already fucking over anyways.

    Ok fine ... I'll play your game.

    I'm Petersen, I'm pissed about Smith and Pease and I fire them today. Are you happy?

    BTW, who am I hiring to replace them? What's the current market look like for unemployed assistant coaches that I'd want on staff?

    And, if I fired Smith right now, who's calling the shots on offense? Do I take the lead on that? But if I do take the lead, how is that going to change anything when the fire and brimstone people out there are busy saying that I don't know what I'm doing given that my offense has sucked for 4 straight years and Smith is basically my puppet to start with? Do you see any other candidates to be OC on the current staff? I see a bunch of position coaches.

    I don't in any way, shape, or form see any path that is going to result in meaningful staff changes DURING THE SEASON that will make a material difference.

    IF that logic holds, then isn't it in the best interest of the program for Petersen to see the results from a high level, process that the defense and special teams are at high-end conference levels and that the offense at dreck levels is what is holding the program back? Isn't that the sobering realization he needs to come to? Isn't going after a Beau Baldwin or some other offensive genius the move that really needs to be made?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,259

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    That young OL was kicking the shit out of Cal in the running game last Saturday. They are young and bad, but Sark had some OL's that were as bad or worse. Greg Christine, Nick Wood, a freshman Shane Brostek, Atoe, Criste...

    You can build an offensive identity behind running the ball down hill, quick slants and comeback routes, the occasional boot & playaction plays, and an occasional play action leading to a deep shot down the field.

    Not only is the identity a problem, but trying to figure out what pieces are your most useful on offense and playing to those strengths is very lacking. Expecting a lot out of the WR is probably foolish because we have a lot of either JAGs or young players that lack consistency.
    Sounds like a coaching issue to me.
    Quite honestly, I don't get what you are arguing about. He has acknowledged that coaching is the problem with a lack of identity. This whole back and forth is absolutely stoopid.

    The only difference between your two arguments is that one thinks it should be blown up right now and that Petersen isn't the guy, and the other wants to see what happens at the end of the season.

    Christ.
    That is NOT the only difference. And I haven't said Petersen isn't the guy.

    Thanks for reading?
    Haven't been able to read every single post in the back and forth between you and others.

    What would you like to see done then? Just so we can get that out there in one spot I guess.
    If that means firing Smith and getting an OC that knows wtf he is doing, fine. If Pete needs to ditch his shitty system that hasn't worked in years, fine. Whatever it is, it ultimately falls on Petersen to win or GTFO.

    Thanks for basically paraphrasing just about everything I've said over the course of the last week.

    I'm convinced that you don't have a fucking clue what you're arguing about at this point. You're arguing just for the sake of arguing.
    Bullshit. You joined HuskyInAZ's fountain of youth campaign from the start.

    And now you want to wait to fix glaring problems.

    If you can't tell the difference, then I really can't help you.
    The offense is full of young players ... that's not an opinion. That's fucking fact.

    The problem with the problems is that the likely fix isn't going to show up in the next 2 months. The solution is OUTSIDE of the program. If the solution was INSIDE the program, we'd have probably seen progress in the last 18 games.

    Clearly logic isn't your strength.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    That young OL was kicking the shit out of Cal in the running game last Saturday. They are young and bad, but Sark had some OL's that were as bad or worse. Greg Christine, Nick Wood, a freshman Shane Brostek, Atoe, Criste...

    You can build an offensive identity behind running the ball down hill, quick slants and comeback routes, the occasional boot & playaction plays, and an occasional play action leading to a deep shot down the field.

    Not only is the identity a problem, but trying to figure out what pieces are your most useful on offense and playing to those strengths is very lacking. Expecting a lot out of the WR is probably foolish because we have a lot of either JAGs or young players that lack consistency.
    Sounds like a coaching issue to me.
    Quite honestly, I don't get what you are arguing about. He has acknowledged that coaching is the problem with a lack of identity. This whole back and forth is absolutely stoopid.

    The only difference between your two arguments is that one thinks it should be blown up right now and that Petersen isn't the guy, and the other wants to see what happens at the end of the season.

    Christ.
    That is NOT the only difference. And I haven't said Petersen isn't the guy.

    Thanks for reading?
    Haven't been able to read every single post in the back and forth between you and others.

    What would you like to see done then? Just so we can get that out there in one spot I guess.
    If that means firing Smith and getting an OC that knows wtf he is doing, fine. If Pete needs to ditch his shitty system that hasn't worked in years, fine. Whatever it is, it ultimately falls on Petersen to win or GTFO.

    Thanks for basically paraphrasing just about everything I've said over the course of the last week.

    I'm convinced that you don't have a fucking clue what you're arguing about at this point. You're arguing just for the sake of arguing.
    Bullshit. You joined HuskyInAZ's fountain of youth campaign from the start.

    And now you want to wait to fix glaring problems.

    If you can't tell the difference, then I really can't help you.
    The offense is full of young players ... that's not an opinion. That's fucking fact.

    The problem with the problems is that the likely fix isn't going to show up in the next 2 months. The solution is OUTSIDE of the program. If the solution was INSIDE the program, we'd have probably seen progress in the last 18 games.

    Clearly logic isn't your strength.
    So is the defense. They don't suck.

    You however, suck at this.

    But I suppose that's nothing new.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Tequilla said:

    And BTW, to @ThomasFremont and @Houhusky ... go fuck yourselves. You two are so irrational at this point that you can't get your heads out of your ass long enough to realize that those that you think are disagreeing with you are automatically doogs and not realizing that they are agreeing with about 81% of your positions.

    This post put off a really bad vibe.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646



    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    That young OL was kicking the shit out of Cal in the running game last Saturday. They are young and bad, but Sark had some OL's that were as bad or worse. Greg Christine, Nick Wood, a freshman Shane Brostek, Atoe, Criste...

    You can build an offensive identity behind running the ball down hill, quick slants and comeback routes, the occasional boot & playaction plays, and an occasional play action leading to a deep shot down the field.

    Not only is the identity a problem, but trying to figure out what pieces are your most useful on offense and playing to those strengths is very lacking. Expecting a lot out of the WR is probably foolish because we have a lot of either JAGs or young players that lack consistency.
    Sounds like a coaching issue to me.
    Quite honestly, I don't get what you are arguing about. He has acknowledged that coaching is the problem with a lack of identity. This whole back and forth is absolutely stoopid.

    The only difference between your two arguments is that one thinks it should be blown up right now and that Petersen isn't the guy, and the other wants to see what happens at the end of the season.

    Christ.
    That is NOT the only difference. And I haven't said Petersen isn't the guy.

    Thanks for reading?
    Haven't been able to read every single post in the back and forth between you and others.

    What would you like to see done then? Just so we can get that out there in one spot I guess.
    If that means firing Smith and getting an OC that knows wtf he is doing, fine. If Pete needs to ditch his shitty system that hasn't worked in years, fine. Whatever it is, it ultimately falls on Petersen to win or GTFO.

    Thanks for basically paraphrasing just about everything I've said over the course of the last week.

    I'm convinced that you don't have a fucking clue what you're arguing about at this point. You're arguing just for the sake of arguing.
    Bullshit. You joined HuskyInAZ's fountain of youth campaign from the start.

    And now you want to wait to fix glaring problems.

    If you can't tell the difference, then I really can't help you.
    The offense is full of young players ... that's not an opinion. That's fucking fact.

    The problem with the problems is that the likely fix isn't going to show up in the next 2 months. The solution is OUTSIDE of the program. If the solution was INSIDE the program, we'd have probably seen progress in the last 18 games.

    Clearly logic isn't your strength.
    So is the defense. They don't suck.

    You however, suck at this.

    But I suppose that's nothing new.
    WHY ARE YOU GUYS GOING BACK AND FORTH?!?!

    Teq wants Smith fired in 2 months, you want him fired now.

    WHO FUCKING CARES. You guys are agreeing on way more than you are disagreeing on.