When Reasons Become Excuses.....

Tequilla said:

Some of you fucks need to separate emotions from reading what you want to hear ...

I don't think anybody is saying that Smith is doing a good job ... I'm not. I've been critical of the lack of identity from the offense (thoughts echoed by Kyle Benn). I've noted that even when Smith makes a solid play call, the execution isn't always matching (which often is tied to youth).

There isn't going to be a mid-season firing. Carry the pitchforks all that you want ... not happening. He wasn't getting fired last year as he was going to get a 2nd year to prove whether he had the answers or not. I agree a lot of pressure on Petersen on how he manages this situation at season end and into the offseason as his recent track record leaves a bit to be desired.

PurpleBaze said:

Tequilla said:

And, going on the theory that this is Petersen's offense and it isn't Smith's fault, then the idea would be that Petersen doesn't have the answers and needs to look to others for solutions, any change that gets made at this point is FS anyway.

This may be the case.

I'll automatically hate the next hire too. Until he proves that he can win.

I've also compared a lot of what we're seeing right now with Petersen's first couple of years in the PAC to Patterson's first two years in the Big 12 at TCU. I see a ton of similarities. Patterson had to scrap everything he knew and stood for offensively which impacted what he was great at defensively because it wasn't working. He's reaping the rewards right now. Can Petersen do the same?

RoadDawg55 said:

That young OL was kicking the shit out of Cal in the running game last Saturday. They are young and bad, but Sark had some OL's that were as bad or worse. Greg Christine, Nick Wood, a freshman Shane Brostek, Atoe, Criste...

You can build an offensive identity behind running the ball down hill, quick slants and comeback routes, the occasional boot & playaction plays, and an occasional play action leading to a deep shot down the field.

Not only is the identity a problem, but trying to figure out what pieces are your most useful on offense and playing to those strengths is very lacking. Expecting a lot out of the WR is probably foolish because we have a lot of either JAGs or young players that lack consistency.

ThomasFremont said:

Tequilla said:

RoadDawg55 said:

That young OL was kicking the shit out of Cal in the running game last Saturday. They are young and bad, but Sark had some OL's that were as bad or worse. Greg Christine, Nick Wood, a freshman Shane Brostek, Atoe, Criste...

You can build an offensive identity behind running the ball down hill, quick slants and comeback routes, the occasional boot & playaction plays, and an occasional play action leading to a deep shot down the field.

Not only is the identity a problem, but trying to figure out what pieces are your most useful on offense and playing to those strengths is very lacking. Expecting a lot out of the WR is probably foolish because we have a lot of either JAGs or young players that lack consistency.

Sounds like a coaching issue to me.

Quite honestly, I don't get what you are arguing about. He has acknowledged that coaching is the problem with a lack of identity. This whole back and forth is absolutely stoopid.

The only difference between your two arguments is that one thinks it should be blown up right now and that Petersen isn't the guy, and the other wants to see what happens at the end of the season.

Christ.

ThomasFremont said:

CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

ThomasFremont said:

Tequilla said:

RoadDawg55 said:

That young OL was kicking the shit out of Cal in the running game last Saturday. They are young and bad, but Sark had some OL's that were as bad or worse. Greg Christine, Nick Wood, a freshman Shane Brostek, Atoe, Criste...

You can build an offensive identity behind running the ball down hill, quick slants and comeback routes, the occasional boot & playaction plays, and an occasional play action leading to a deep shot down the field.

Not only is the identity a problem, but trying to figure out what pieces are your most useful on offense and playing to those strengths is very lacking. Expecting a lot out of the WR is probably foolish because we have a lot of either JAGs or young players that lack consistency.

Sounds like a coaching issue to me.

Quite honestly, I don't get what you are arguing about. He has acknowledged that coaching is the problem with a lack of identity. This whole back and forth is absolutely stoopid.

The only difference between your two arguments is that one thinks it should be blown up right now and that Petersen isn't the guy, and the other wants to see what happens at the end of the season.

Christ.

That is NOT the only difference. And I haven't said Petersen isn't the guy.

Thanks for reading?

Haven't been able to read every single post in the back and forth between you and others.

What would you like to see done then? Just so we can get that out there in one spot I guess.