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HFNY
HFNY Member Posts: 5,386
I think it opened at 2 or 2.5 and now it's Washington +4.5

Goff sprained his ankle but sounds like it was minor. BB's looked more serious against Utah State but hopefully he started getting treatment immediately and will be ready for Cal's passing attacking.

Probably their most significant injury is a leg injury to Devante Wilson (bounce-back from USC, picked Cal over us coming out of JC). He may be their best pass rusher and it hurts their DL depth.

I had thought this game would be a pick' em. The public is probably overrating Cal's win over a Texas team that is still trying to find its identity while dealing with the slippage from Mack Brown's last couple of years.

Maybe the sharps will come in at the end of the week and push it down to UW +3.
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited September 2015
    Tequilla said:

    I love that we're home dogs ... love even more that the line is getting pushed more in that direction.

    Generally rule is to beware of the home dog particularly when that dog has the better defense.

    And finally, we beat Cal 31-7 last year at their place with Cyler Miles at QB. I don't see our defense being materially worse year to year. Browning should be an upgrade over Miles. Is Cal really 24+ points better than us in 12 months? I don't think so.

    This is the kind of game that has always tripped Washington up in the past. Just when momemtum is going their way, they shit the bed. It's probably different with Peterson, but I'm taking Cal (still ranked too high) until shown otherwise.
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    Don James needed a miracle to escape Berkeley with a W in 1991...Peterson's going to need some of that same magic Saturday.
























    Regardless of what the old fat man says, I'm not a Cal fan at all...i fucking hate them...but their offense is dangerous regardless of how bad their defense is.
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279

    Don James needed a miracle to escape Berkeley with a W in 1991...Peterson's going to need some of that same magic Saturday.






    Regardless of what the old fat man says, I'm not a Cal fan at all...i fucking hate them...but their offense is dangerous regardless of how bad their defense is.

    Just because they had your team beat last year is no reason to get all out of sorts. 31-7 at Cal. UW wins easily

    Sounds like you do care
    Well take some of your social security money and bingo winnings and place a wager then.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,331 Founders Club
    edited September 2015

    Don James needed a miracle to escape Berkeley with a W in 1991...Peterson's going to need some of that same magic Saturday.
























    Regardless of what the old fat man says, I'm not a Cal fan at all...i fucking hate them...but their offense is dangerous regardless of how bad their defense is.

    That game was hard fought but how was it a miracle?

    We needed a miracle in the '93 game at Cal, coming back from a 23-3 deficit. But not in 1991.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,794 Founders Club
    I'm waiting for all the Bears and Bruins to push it to 17 points
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279

    Don James needed a miracle to escape Berkeley with a W in 1991...Peterson's going to need some of that same magic Saturday.
























    Regardless of what the old fat man says, I'm not a Cal fan at all...i fucking hate them...but their offense is dangerous regardless of how bad their defense is.

    That game was hard fought but how was it a miracle?

    We needed a miracle in the '93 game at Cal, coming back from a 23-3 deficit. But not in 1991.
    I was trolling your senior citizen buddy. HTH.

    The real miracle is DJ got to avoid Terry Donahue that season. Terry Donahue owned DJ, even though TD was a mediocre coach.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    Tequilla said:

    I love that we're home dogs ... love even more that the line is getting pushed more in that direction.

    Generally rule is to beware of the home dog particularly when that dog has the better defense.

    And finally, we beat Cal 31-7 last year at their place with Cyler Miles at QB. I don't see our defense being materially worse year to year. Browning should be an upgrade over Miles. Is Cal really 24+ points better than us in 12 months? I don't think so.

    This is the kind of game that has always tripped Washington up in the past. Just when momemtum is going their way, they shit the bed. It's probably different with Peterson, but I'm taking Cal (still ranked too high) until shown otherwise.
    On the other hand it is also the kind of game that trips up Cal. Fresh off a big win over Texas they come to their house of horrors.
    I might change my pick simply if Cal fans consider a win at Texas (2010-Present) big. Fans with that low of expectations have been institutionalized by loser mentality.
  • priapism
    priapism Member Posts: 2,301
    UW has won something like 20 out of the last 25?

    I expect a traditional UW home game against Cal -> fall behind by 17 points, then UW scores 21 in the 4th Q.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    Tequilla said:

    I love that we're home dogs ... love even more that the line is getting pushed more in that direction.

    Generally rule is to beware of the home dog particularly when that dog has the better defense.

    And finally, we beat Cal 31-7 last year at their place with Cyler Miles at QB. I don't see our defense being materially worse year to year. Browning should be an upgrade over Miles. Is Cal really 24+ points better than us in 12 months? I don't think so.

    We should beat Cal because they still suck, but this is ridiculous. Cal played their worst game of the season on offense against us last year. Against defenses just as good or better, they performed much better.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    I love that we're home dogs ... love even more that the line is getting pushed more in that direction.

    Generally rule is to beware of the home dog particularly when that dog has the better defense.

    And finally, we beat Cal 31-7 last year at their place with Cyler Miles at QB. I don't see our defense being materially worse year to year. Browning should be an upgrade over Miles. Is Cal really 24+ points better than us in 12 months? I don't think so.

    We should beat Cal because they still suck, but this is ridiculous. Cal played their worst game of the season on offense against us last year. Against defenses just as good or better, they performed much better.
    So you're saying that Cal sucked last year because of Cal and not at all because anything UW did? Is that what you are saying?
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,192
    We will beat Cal by 10+


    COOK IT


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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Goff's a good QB but I'm not sure that I'd say that they really push the ball down the field much. Last week, their longest completion was 24 yards. They are much more a quick throw team that relies on some yards after the catch.

    If you go look back at last year's game, we did 3 things particularly well on defense:

    1) We stuffed the Cal running game making it a non-factor
    2) We tackled well after the catch and limited explosive plays
    3) We were able to take away some of the quick throws that led to the DL having the time to get after Goff

    If you look at the games so far this year, we stuffed Boise for 3.5 yards per carry. Utah St averaged 2.8 yards per carry. I'm fairly confident in our ability to slow Cal's running game down.

    And, not that this means anything against the game per se, but Washington has covered now 6 of the last 8 games. The only games not covered were the bowl game stink fest and the UCLA game last year where Kikaha got hurt early in the game. This is a team that isn't sexy and sexy teams generally don't get bet up by the public ... but the sharps like them. In contrast, Cal has the QB and is a sexy pick ... they aren't covering at a high rate.

    No question Cal can win the game. But it should be close. And in that event, give me the home team that has the better defense. UW wins 27-24.
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,309 Founders Club
    AZDuck said:

    Don James needed a miracle to escape Berkeley with a W in 1991...Peterson's going to need some of that same magic Saturday.
























    Regardless of what the old fat man says, I'm not a Cal fan at all...i fucking hate them...but their offense is dangerous regardless of how bad their defense is.

    That game was hard fought but how was it a miracle?

    We needed a miracle in the '93 game at Cal, coming back from a 23-3 deficit. But not in 1991.
    I was trolling your senior citizen buddy. HTH.

    The real miracle is DJ got to avoid Terry Donahue that season. Terry Donahue owned DJ, even though TD was a mediocre coach.
    If Donahue was a mediocre coach, what good coaches have been employed by the University of California, Southern Branch?

    Bob Toledo, of course... how could you forget? ;) <----------
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    AZDuck said:

    Don James needed a miracle to escape Berkeley with a W in 1991...Peterson's going to need some of that same magic Saturday.
























    Regardless of what the old fat man says, I'm not a Cal fan at all...i fucking hate them...but their offense is dangerous regardless of how bad their defense is.

    That game was hard fought but how was it a miracle?

    We needed a miracle in the '93 game at Cal, coming back from a 23-3 deficit. But not in 1991.
    I was trolling your senior citizen buddy. HTH.

    The real miracle is DJ got to avoid Terry Donahue that season. Terry Donahue owned DJ, even though TD was a mediocre coach.
    If Donahue was a mediocre coach, what good coaches have been employed by the University of California, Southern Branch?

    Dick Vermeil. And probably some really old fuck that is Races age.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Vermeil's best record at UCLA was 9-2-1 with a Rose Bowel win. That's good.

    Donahue with 10-1-1 in 1982 (and won the Rose Bowl)
    He also went 9-2-1 in 1985 (and won the Rose Bowl)
    He also went 10-2 in 1988 (and won the Cotton Bowl)

    The old man name you might be looking for is Henry Sanders, who went 66-19-1 over 8 years, invented the UCLA uniforms as we used to know them before Adidas fucked them up this year, and was responsible for UCLA's only Heisman winner and national championship
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    edited September 2015
    AZDuck said:

    Vermeil's best record at UCLA was 9-2-1 with a Rose Bowel win. That's good.

    Donahue with 10-1-1 in 1982 (and won the Rose Bowl)
    He also went 9-2-1 in 1985 (and won the Rose Bowl)
    He also went 10-2 in 1988 (and won the Cotton Bowl)

    The old man name you might be looking for is Henry Sanders, who went 66-19-1 over 8 years, invented the UCLA uniforms as we used to know them before Adidas fucked them up this year, and was responsible for UCLA's only Heisman winner and national championship

    UCLA History Knowledge Superiority Guy
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    edited September 2015
    AZDuck said:

    Vermeil's best record at UCLA was 9-2-1 with a Rose Bowel win. That's good.

    Donahue with 10-1-1 in 1982 (and won the Rose Bowl)
    He also went 9-2-1 in 1985 (and won the Rose Bowl)
    He also went 10-2 in 1988 (and won the Cotton Bowl)

    The old man name you might be looking for is Henry Sanders, who went 66-19-1 over 8 years, invented the UCLA uniforms as we used to know them before Adidas fucked them up this year, and was responsible for UCLA's only Heisman winner and national championship

    Henry Red Sandeds also was found dead from a heart attack in a motel with prostitute a few years after he won a NATTY. You should have read the full Wikipedia Page. F for effort, fag.

    Donahue was mediocre. Most broon fans view him as a slightly more than 'okay'. In the 80s and 90s UCLA/SC/UW all took turns dominating the conference, the difference between Donahue and Don James is TD never made it to a natty with Troy Aikman. Those teams were loaded top to bottom. Also his down years in between QBs usually got real bad. His teams were also very conservative.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    I love that we're home dogs ... love even more that the line is getting pushed more in that direction.

    Generally rule is to beware of the home dog particularly when that dog has the better defense.

    And finally, we beat Cal 31-7 last year at their place with Cyler Miles at QB. I don't see our defense being materially worse year to year. Browning should be an upgrade over Miles. Is Cal really 24+ points better than us in 12 months? I don't think so.

    We should beat Cal because they still suck, but this is ridiculous. Cal played their worst game of the season on offense against us last year. Against defenses just as good or better, they performed much better.
    So you're saying that Cal sucked last year because of Cal and not at all because anything UW did? Is that what you are saying?
    I'm saying last year doesn't fucking matter.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,386
    @Tequilla's pick of 27-24 was exactly what I was thinking.

    Now I'm really looking forward to the O / U coming out. I'd guess it will be 66 with the under being enticing.