Nothing erects a doog dick like a kid getting 15 extra practices. Spring enrollee, bowel game, etc. We haven't developed a kid over five seasons in the last 15 years but 15 practices means a true freshman is ready at QB.
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Completely agree, but let's take into consideration who the presumed starter is going to be. Thinking he should redshirt no matter what, even if he's the best guy is FS. Judging from the Spring, he's probably not the best guy, but if he is during fall camp, then what?
And if Lindquist goes out and completely sucks (very likely), then what? Same for Carta Samuels. A lot of hypotheticals, but the QB position is pretty fluid when Jeff fucking Lindquist is the assumed starter.
The goal is to build a program, not squeek into some shit bowel this season. I think the best long term option is redshirting a guy like Browning. Starting a true freshman QB is almost never beneficial in the short term, and IMO exposes kids to injury and destroys his confidence unnecessarily. How many quality QB's started as true frosh in the Pac? I can't think of many. I just think Browning is unlikely to be more than a game better than Kijana Carter or Lindy this season, but will be much better prepared for next season and beyond after a RS year.
Add in that he's not the NFL prototype as someone else alluded to and he's less likely to leave early anyway and I think it's a no brainer to redshirt him.
If he plays this year he better be the shit.
I really doubt the coaches feel the same way. Winning now also helps builds the program. I get that we are tired of 7 and 8 win seasons, but they are better than 4 or 5 win seasons. Petersen wins 4 or 5 this year with Lindquist/KCS and there are concerns. He wins 7 with Browning and there is much more momentum and optimism surrounding Husky Football which imo would help the program more than pining for 2019.
You are right that not many true freshman QB's are good. For a real program, Browning wouldn't sniff the field. For a program with Jeff Lindquist are the starter, I'm not so sure.
Nothing erects a doog dick like a kid getting 15 extra practices. Spring enrollee, bowel game, etc. We haven't developed a kid over five seasons in the last 15 years but 15 practices means a true freshman is ready at QB.
SoFuckingIrritating.gif
Completely agree, but let's take into consideration who the presumed starter is going to be. Thinking he should redshirt no matter what, even if he's the best guy is FS. Judging from the Spring, he's probably not the best guy, but if he is during fall camp, then what?
And if Lindquist goes out and completely sucks (very likely), then what? Same for Carta Samuels. A lot of hypotheticals, but the QB position is pretty fluid when Jeff fucking Lindquist is the assumed starter.
The goal is to build a program, not squeek into some shit bowel this season. I think the best long term option is redshirting a guy like Browning. Starting a true freshman QB is almost never beneficial in the short term, and IMO exposes kids to injury and destroys his confidence unnecessarily. How many quality QB's started as true frosh in the Pac? I can't think of many. I just think Browning is unlikely to be more than a game better than Kijana Carter or Lindy this season, but will be much better prepared for next season and beyond after a RS year.
Add in that he's not the NFL prototype as someone else alluded to and he's less likely to leave early anyway and I think it's a no brainer to redshirt him.
If he plays this year he better be the shit.
I really doubt the coaches feel the same way. Winning now also helps builds the program. I get that we are tired of 7 and 8 win seasons, but they are better than 4 or 5 win seasons. Petersen wins 4 or 5 this year with Lindquist/KCS and there are concerns. He wins 7 with Browning and there is much more momentum and optimism surrounding Husky Football which imo would help the program more than pining for 2019.
You are right that not many true freshman QB's are good. For a real program, Browning wouldn't sniff the field. For a program with Jeff Lindquist are the starter, I'm not so sure.
I just don't think Browning is 2-3 wins better than the alternatives. If he's 3 wins better I agree you play him.
Nothing erects a doog dick like a kid getting 15 extra practices. Spring enrollee, bowel game, etc. We haven't developed a kid over five seasons in the last 15 years but 15 practices means a true freshman is ready at QB.
SoFuckingIrritating.gif
Completely agree, but let's take into consideration who the presumed starter is going to be. Thinking he should redshirt no matter what, even if he's the best guy is FS. Judging from the Spring, he's probably not the best guy, but if he is during fall camp, then what?
And if Lindquist goes out and completely sucks (very likely), then what? Same for Carta Samuels. A lot of hypotheticals, but the QB position is pretty fluid when Jeff fucking Lindquist is the assumed starter.
The goal is to build a program, not squeek into some shit bowel this season. I think the best long term option is redshirting a guy like Browning. Starting a true freshman QB is almost never beneficial in the short term, and IMO exposes kids to injury and destroys his confidence unnecessarily. How many quality QB's started as true frosh in the Pac? I can't think of many. I just think Browning is unlikely to be more than a game better than Kijana Carter or Lindy this season, but will be much better prepared for next season and beyond after a RS year.
Add in that he's not the NFL prototype as someone else alluded to and he's less likely to leave early anyway and I think it's a no brainer to redshirt him.
If he plays this year he better be the shit.
I really doubt the coaches feel the same way. Winning now also helps builds the program. I get that we are tired of 7 and 8 win seasons, but they are better than 4 or 5 win seasons. Petersen wins 4 or 5 this year with Lindquist/KCS and there are concerns. He wins 7 with Browning and there is much more momentum and optimism surrounding Husky Football which imo would help the program more than pining for 2019.
You are right that not many true freshman QB's are good. For a real program, Browning wouldn't sniff the field. For a program with Jeff Lindquist are the starter, I'm not so sure.
I just don't think Browning is 2-3 wins better than the alternatives. If he's 3 wins better I agree you play him.
A lot of the thread is dealing in hypotheticals, which we don't do, but the margins for winning and losing are often so slim which is why the best guy has to play. Marginally better can be a 2-3 win difference.
The 15 practices was the original, Lambo-generated/Baird-coveted, doog excuse for sucking. 'Why did we piss away the Rose Bowl in '95 and '96?' 'You have no idea the amount of development we lost in the underclass kids in the last 2 years without those 15 practices. Those make a huge difference.'
Sort of like having a shit-for-brains coach also makes a huge difference: looking at you Lambo.
The 15 practices was the original, Lambo-generated/Baird-coveted, doog excuse for sucking. 'Why did we piss away the Rose Bowl in '95 and '96?' 'You have no idea the amount of development we lost in the underclass kids in the last 2 years without those 15 practices. Those make a huge difference.'
Sort of like having a shit-for-brains coach also makes a huge difference: looking at you Lambo.
It actually goes back even further than that to the ultimate doogism of all doogisms.
The 15 practices was the original, Lambo-generated/Baird-coveted, doog excuse for sucking. 'Why did we piss away the Rose Bowl in '95 and '96?' 'You have no idea the amount of development we lost in the underclass kids in the last 2 years without those 15 practices. Those make a huge difference.'
Sort of like having a shit-for-brains coach also makes a huge difference: looking at you Lambo.
It actually goes back even further than that to the ultimate doogism of all doogisms.
#Sanctions #CostUsTwoBowels #Thats30Practices
Yeah, the sanctions really fucking decimated us. Look at that '96 team: no talent at all.
How can you expect to win without those practices?
The 15 practices was the original, Lambo-generated/Baird-coveted, doog excuse for sucking. 'Why did we piss away the Rose Bowl in '95 and '96?' 'You have no idea the amount of development we lost in the underclass kids in the last 2 years without those 15 practices. Those make a huge difference.'
Sort of like having a shit-for-brains coach also makes a huge difference: looking at you Lambo.
It actually goes back even further than that to the ultimate doogism of all doogisms.
#Sanctions #CostUsTwoBowels #Thats30Practices
Yeah, the sanctions really fucking decimated us. Look at that '96 team: no talent at all.
How can you expect to win without those practices?
The sad thing is I was young and doogpid and lapped up all that shit at the time.
The 15 practices was the original, Lambo-generated/Baird-coveted, doog excuse for sucking. 'Why did we piss away the Rose Bowl in '95 and '96?' 'You have no idea the amount of development we lost in the underclass kids in the last 2 years without those 15 practices. Those make a huge difference.'
Sort of like having a shit-for-brains coach also makes a huge difference: looking at you Lambo.
It actually goes back even further than that to the ultimate doogism of all doogisms.
#Sanctions #CostUsTwoBowels #Thats30Practices
Yeah, the sanctions really fucking decimated us. Look at that '96 team: no talent at all.
How can you expect to win without those practices?
Way to give AoG (RIP) another option for his shitty pole.
The 15 practices was the original, Lambo-generated/Baird-coveted, doog excuse for sucking. 'Why did we piss away the Rose Bowl in '95 and '96?' 'You have no idea the amount of development we lost in the underclass kids in the last 2 years without those 15 practices. Those make a huge difference.'
Sort of like having a shit-for-brains coach also makes a huge difference: looking at you Lambo.
It actually goes back even further than that to the ultimate doogism of all doogisms.
#Sanctions #CostUsTwoBowels #Thats30Practices
Yeah, the sanctions really fucking decimated us. Look at that '96 team: no talent at all.
How can you expect to win without those practices?
The sad thing is I was young and doogpid and lapped up all that shit at the time.
95 is going to be special!
Honestly, that was when I realized Lambo was a fucktard. It was so obvious that talent was not our problem, coming from 21 ahead at half to tie USC 21-21 in the rain has nothing to fucking do with 30 practices. It has to do with a coach getting a tight asshole at half-time.
The 15 practices was the original, Lambo-generated/Baird-coveted, doog excuse for sucking. 'Why did we piss away the Rose Bowl in '95 and '96?' 'You have no idea the amount of development we lost in the underclass kids in the last 2 years without those 15 practices. Those make a huge difference.'
Sort of like having a shit-for-brains coach also makes a huge difference: looking at you Lambo.
It actually goes back even further than that to the ultimate doogism of all doogisms.
#Sanctions #CostUsTwoBowels #Thats30Practices
Yeah, the sanctions really fucking decimated us. Look at that '96 team: no talent at all.
How can you expect to win without those practices?
The sad thing is I was young and doogpid and lapped up all that shit at the time.
95 is going to be special!
Honestly, that was when I realized Lambo was a fucktard. It was so obvious that talent was not our problem, coming from 21 ahead at half to tie USC 21-21 in the rain has nothing to fucking do with 30 practices. It has to do with a coach getting a tight asshole at half-time.
If you didn't want to fire Lambo when Wheaton crossed midfield, you were a Doog.
The 15 practices was the original, Lambo-generated/Baird-coveted, doog excuse for sucking. 'Why did we piss away the Rose Bowl in '95 and '96?' 'You have no idea the amount of development we lost in the underclass kids in the last 2 years without those 15 practices. Those make a huge difference.'
Sort of like having a shit-for-brains coach also makes a huge difference: looking at you Lambo.
It actually goes back even further than that to the ultimate doogism of all doogisms.
#Sanctions #CostUsTwoBowels #Thats30Practices
Yeah, the sanctions really fucking decimated us. Look at that '96 team: no talent at all.
How can you expect to win without those practices?
The sad thing is I was young and doogpid and lapped up all that shit at the time.
95 is going to be special!
Honestly, that was when I realized Lambo was a fucktard. It was so obvious that talent was not our problem, coming from 21 ahead at half to tie USC 21-21 in the rain has nothing to fucking do with 30 practices. It has to do with a coach getting a tight asshole at half-time.
If you didn't want to fire Lambo when Wheaton crossed midfield, you were a Doog.
At that time I was not really dooging for Lambo, but I was trying to process everything. That '94 team should've been a 10 win team. We had a lot of talent, but the malaise had already clearly set in.
Really the '94 Stanford game told you all you needed on Lambo. Also the all-white recruiting class could've given you a hint, too.
Every time I think I know who will start, I return to the assumptions and hypotheticals pertaining to all of the options.
Heck, we don't even know who the starting Right Tackle will be so it's that much harder to try to guess who will start @ BSU on September 4th.
I will say this, unless Browning will have taken some big steps by September 4th, it's an awful lot to ask of a true frosh to go into hostile territory with a bunch of Bronco Fans pitching tent at the thought of returning ass-kicking they received to start the 2013 season.
Also, it's not like we return 4 of 5 or 5 of 5 starters on the OL with our LT being a pre-season All Pac 12 choice; we only have 1 guy who has started more than 10 games and he was out this spring (RS-SR Dex Charles). The next guy has started 7 games (RS-So Coleman Shelton) and he also missed the spring. A guy who has started about 5 games over his career redshirted last year (RS-JR Brostek) and I am only hoping another guy who started a few games last year (RS-SR Tufunga) can make it to being average in his 5th year.
Living in fantasy land, imagine yourself playing EA Sports College Football. I'd probably go with Wild Swede since he'd be less likely to get rattled, use him in the option game and then do play-action off of the running game, and lean on my reasonably talented D and good special teams to pull out a win.
TSIO but also have to win the turnover battle and I don't know if starting a true frosh who isn't really a running threat is the best way to take care of the ball on offense.
Nothing erects a doog dick like a kid getting 15 extra practices. Spring enrollee, bowel game, etc. We haven't developed a kid over five seasons in the last 15 years but 15 practices means a true freshman is ready at QB.
SoFuckingIrritating.gif
Completely agree, but let's take into consideration who the presumed starter is going to be. Thinking he should redshirt no matter what, even if he's the best guy is FS. Judging from the Spring, he's probably not the best guy, but if he is during fall camp, then what?
And if Lindquist goes out and completely sucks (very likely), then what? Same for Carta Samuels. A lot of hypotheticals, but the QB position is pretty fluid when Jeff fucking Lindquist is the assumed starter.
The goal is to build a program, not squeek into some shit bowel this season. I think the best long term option is redshirting a guy like Browning. Starting a true freshman QB is almost never beneficial in the short term, and IMO exposes kids to injury and destroys his confidence unnecessarily. How many quality QB's started as true frosh in the Pac? I can't think of many. I just think Browning is unlikely to be more than a game better than Kijana Carter or Lindy this season, but will be much better prepared for next season and beyond after a RS year.
Add in that he's not the NFL prototype as someone else alluded to and he's less likely to leave early anyway and I think it's a no brainer to redshirt him.
If he plays this year he better be the shit.
I really doubt the coaches feel the same way. Winning now also helps builds the program. I get that we are tired of 7 and 8 win seasons, but they are better than 4 or 5 win seasons. Petersen wins 4 or 5 this year with Lindquist/KCS and there are concerns. He wins 7 with Browning and there is much more momentum and optimism surrounding Husky Football which imo would help the program more than pining for 2019.
You are right that not many true freshman QB's are good. For a real program, Browning wouldn't sniff the field. For a program with Jeff Lindquist are the starter, I'm not so sure.
I just don't think Browning is 2-3 wins better than the alternatives. If he's 3 wins better I agree you play him.
A lot of the thread is dealing in hypotheticals, which we don't do, but the margins for winning and losing are often so slim which is why the best guy has to play. Marginally better can be a 2-3 win difference.
Browning is going to be the guy. He wasn't that far behind the others and with a lot more reps and a few live games he'll be at worst where the others are.
Lindquist just doesn't have it. He's had three full years. He was terrible against a bad Hawaii team, missing guys that were wide open. Also, he was far enough behind Miles last year that he didn't come in for relief in any games despite Miles' shitty play.
The biggest reason Browning will play this season is it gives UW the most upside next season without sacrificing much this year. He will be a lot better as a true soph than rs freshman.
Goff played as a true freshman and his QBR the next year went from 53 to 75. Even Sefo at Colorado went from 54 to 60. Miles QBR was only 49 last year.
Browning is going to be the guy. He wasn't that far behind the others and with a lot more reps and a few live games he'll be at worst where the others are.
Lindquist just doesn't have it. He's had three full years. He was terrible against a bad Hawaii team, missing guys that were wide open. Also, he was far enough behind Miles last year that he didn't come in for relief in any games despite Miles' shitty play.
The biggest reason Browning will play this season is it gives UW the most upside next season without sacrificing much this year. He will be a lot better as a true soph than rs freshman.
Goff played as a true freshman and his QBR the next year went from 53 to 75. Even Sefo at Colorado went from 54 to 60. Miles QBR was only 49 last year.
goodbye sociopaths. The AOG is officially gone. put me back on the kill list. I leave you to cutting people off in traffic and making loud noises, talking on cell phones right next to somebody trying to concentrate, and all the other things you do all day long to annoy people.
There was a discordant hum of human voices! There was a loud blast as of many trumpets! There was a harsh grating as of a thousand thunders! The fiery walls rushed back! An outstretched arm caught my own as I fell, fainting, into the abyss. It was that of General Lasalle. The French army had entered Toledo. The Inquisition was in the hands of its enemies.
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You are right that not many true freshman QB's are good. For a real program, Browning wouldn't sniff the field. For a program with Jeff Lindquist are the starter, I'm not so sure.
HTH
Sort of like having a shit-for-brains coach also makes a huge difference: looking at you Lambo.
#Sanctions #CostUsTwoBowels #Thats30Practices
How can you expect to win without those practices?
95 is going to be special!
Really the '94 Stanford game told you all you needed on Lambo. Also the all-white recruiting class could've given you a hint, too.
Every time I think I know who will start, I return to the assumptions and hypotheticals pertaining to all of the options.
Heck, we don't even know who the starting Right Tackle will be so it's that much harder to try to guess who will start @ BSU on September 4th.
I will say this, unless Browning will have taken some big steps by September 4th, it's an awful lot to ask of a true frosh to go into hostile territory with a bunch of Bronco Fans pitching tent at the thought of returning ass-kicking they received to start the 2013 season.
Also, it's not like we return 4 of 5 or 5 of 5 starters on the OL with our LT being a pre-season All Pac 12 choice; we only have 1 guy who has started more than 10 games and he was out this spring (RS-SR Dex Charles). The next guy has started 7 games (RS-So Coleman Shelton) and he also missed the spring. A guy who has started about 5 games over his career redshirted last year (RS-JR Brostek) and I am only hoping another guy who started a few games last year (RS-SR Tufunga) can make it to being average in his 5th year.
Living in fantasy land, imagine yourself playing EA Sports College Football. I'd probably go with Wild Swede since he'd be less likely to get rattled, use him in the option game and then do play-action off of the running game, and lean on my reasonably talented D and good special teams to pull out a win.
TSIO but also have to win the turnover battle and I don't know if starting a true frosh who isn't really a running threat is the best way to take care of the ball on offense.
Lindquist just doesn't have it. He's had three full years. He was terrible against a bad Hawaii team, missing guys that were wide open. Also, he was far enough behind Miles last year that he didn't come in for relief in any games despite Miles' shitty play.
The biggest reason Browning will play this season is it gives UW the most upside next season without sacrificing much this year. He will be a lot better as a true soph than rs freshman.
Goff played as a true freshman and his QBR the next year went from 53 to 75. Even Sefo at Colorado went from 54 to 60. Miles QBR was only 49 last year.
He's going to be the guy to start at BSU?
Come in after halftime or at some point during the BSU game?
Start against Sacramento State?
Or start at some point in 2015?
goodbye sociopaths. The AOG is officially gone. put me back on the kill list. I leave you to cutting people off in traffic and making loud noises, talking on cell phones right next to somebody trying to concentrate, and all the other things you do all day long to annoy people.
There was a discordant hum of human voices! There was a loud blast as of many trumpets! There was a harsh grating as of a thousand thunders! The fiery walls rushed back! An outstretched arm caught my own as I fell, fainting, into the abyss. It was that of General Lasalle. The French army had entered Toledo. The Inquisition was in the hands of its enemies.