Disagree. Tui won a Rose Bowl and popped off in 2000. But if Shane Fortney would have stayed, Tui would have redshirted and been great in 2001!!1 It's stupid Jerry. Tui played because he had to, just like Browning might have to. They aren't the same scenario because the '97 team had Rose Bowl expectations, but it was a case of the best QB stepping in and playing when needed.
Marques got *much* better every year he was on campus. People forget that, although he created a lot of (justified) excitement in '97, he wasn't actually very effective and didn't really win games. That came later.
Had Marques redshirted, then been coming off a Rose Bowl MVP performance as a junior, he would have entered his senior year as a leading Heisman candidate. We can debate how good that '01 team could have been with Marques at the helm, but nobody can debate that both Marques and the Huskies would have been much better with him at QB in '01 than he and they were in '97. That's the valid comparison.
I'll take this a little further. Cody Pickett stepped in and was one of Washington's most prolific passers in 2001. It's about recruiting great players and having them be ready. People forget the Tui got hurt in the Rose Bowl and it was Pickett who stepped in and helped keep that game in hand. You're either good or you're not.
I freely concede Pickett was really good in 2001. (In retrospect, it was his best year by far.) But he wasn't as good as Marques would have been. UW with Marques doesn't lose at Corvallis in '01. And they sure as fuck don't lose that Holiday Bowl. Even the Miami game probably would have been a somewhat dignified (albeit losing) effort.
On the other hand, if Marques redshirts, maybe UW doesn't win the Rose Bowl in 2000.
I guess we all know what we don't know and that is who will emerge as the starter at the end of fall practices.
I'm also eager to see if Dex Charles and Coleman Shelton will be healthy enough to run with the 1's. If they are not, what will the OL look like? Maybe this?
LT: RS-JR Eldrenkamp
LG: RS-Soph Dane Crane(?)
C: RS-SR Tufunga
RG: RS-JR Brostek
RT: RS-Frosh Kaleb McGary OR RS-Frosh Matt James (?)
Browning is going to be the guy. He wasn't that far behind the others and with a lot more reps and a few live games he'll be at worst where the others are.
Lindquist just doesn't have it. He's had three full years. He was terrible against a bad Hawaii team, missing guys that were wide open. Also, he was far enough behind Miles last year that he didn't come in for relief in any games despite Miles' shitty play.
The biggest reason Browning will play this season is it gives UW the most upside next season without sacrificing much this year. He will be a lot better as a true soph than rs freshman.
Goff played as a true freshman and his QBR the next year went from 53 to 75. Even Sefo at Colorado went from 54 to 60. Miles QBR was only 49 last year.
Not sure if Browning will start the first game but I think he will end up being the guy for the season.
Browning is going to be the guy. He wasn't that far behind the others and with a lot more reps and a few live games he'll be at worst where the others are.
Lindquist just doesn't have it. He's had three full years. He was terrible against a bad Hawaii team, missing guys that were wide open. Also, he was far enough behind Miles last year that he didn't come in for relief in any games despite Miles' shitty play.
The biggest reason Browning will play this season is it gives UW the most upside next season without sacrificing much this year. He will be a lot better as a true soph than rs freshman.
Goff played as a true freshman and his QBR the next year went from 53 to 75. Even Sefo at Colorado went from 54 to 60. Miles QBR was only 49 last year.
Not sure if Browning will start the first game but I think he will end up being the guy for the season.
Browning is going to be the guy. He wasn't that far behind the others and with a lot more reps and a few live games he'll be at worst where the others are.
Lindquist just doesn't have it. He's had three full years. He was terrible against a bad Hawaii team, missing guys that were wide open. Also, he was far enough behind Miles last year that he didn't come in for relief in any games despite Miles' shitty play.
The biggest reason Browning will play this season is it gives UW the most upside next season without sacrificing much this year. He will be a lot better as a true soph than rs freshman.
Goff played as a true freshman and his QBR the next year went from 53 to 75. Even Sefo at Colorado went from 54 to 60. Miles QBR was only 49 last year.
Not sure if Browning will start the first game but I think he will end up being the guy for the season.
Sounds like Sark 101 on how to burn a redshirt. Put Roberts and Trey Adams on FG protect and then bench 'em the rest of the season.
Sounds like Sark 101 on how to burn a redshirt. Put Roberts and Trey Adams on FG protect and then bench 'em the rest of the season.
AKA the Darrell Daniels development program. From GoHuskies:
2013: "Played in every game except for the Apple Cup and the bowl game, on special teams ... one tackle vs. Idaho State ... two tackles in the win over Arizona ... moved from wide receiver to tight end midway through the year."
So in summary burn the redshirt on a 4-star All-American so he can total 3 special teams tackles. Oh and just for fun lets have him change positions. No big deal.
Cody Pickett played as a true freshman and everyone thought he sucked and we were fucked. HTH.
Turns out he was a LOT better as a RS-Soph than a frosh.
The point I think is that If Petersen can't have the QB depth behind Browning ready for 2019 then we're fucked regardless if he redshirts. No shit he'll be better as a RS Senior, but if he is worth 2-3 wins this year, you gotta play him.
Cody Pickett played as a true freshman and everyone thought he sucked and we were fucked. HTH.
Turns out he was a LOT better as a RS-Soph than a frosh.
The point I think is that If Petersen can't have the QB depth behind Browning ready for 2019 then we're fucked regardless if he redshirts. No shit he'll be better as a RS Senior, but if he is worth 2-3 wins this year, you gotta play him.
2-3 wins?? You guys ARE fucking Doogs.
If there is one player worth 2-3 wins you have a coach who is a fucking idiot.
Saying a guy at the QB position is worth 2-3 wins relative to their backup is not the same thing as saying John Ross is worth 2-3 wins.
I'm sure Oregon would agree Dennis Dixon's knee was worth 2-3 wins.
How many true frosh qbs have ever been worth 3 wins? Brownings not going to be the third to fourth all time.
When your backup is Jeff Lindquist, Tony Montana, and another Freshman the chance of there being a steep decline from #1 to #2 increases.
Locker was probably worth 3 wins if UW takes off his redshirt when Stanback goes down.
I still hope Jeff shocks the world and runs with the position (literally), but if he truly is as bad as people say he was in that 2nd half, it's not out of the realm to believe Browning could have that type of impact.
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I'm also eager to see if Dex Charles and Coleman Shelton will be healthy enough to run with the 1's. If they are not, what will the OL look like? Maybe this?
LT: RS-JR Eldrenkamp
LG: RS-Soph Dane Crane(?)
C: RS-SR Tufunga
RG: RS-JR Brostek
RT: RS-Frosh Kaleb McGary OR RS-Frosh Matt James (?)
Wild Swede taking the snap, Magna Carta at fullback, and Browning and Tony Montana split out wide so that the Blue Broncos are totally confused.
Sounds like Sark 101 on how to burn a redshirt. Put Roberts and Trey Adams on FG protect and then bench 'em the rest of the season.
AKA the Darrell Daniels development program. From GoHuskies:
2013: "Played in every game except for the Apple Cup and the bowl game, on special teams ... one tackle vs. Idaho State ... two tackles in the win over Arizona ... moved from wide receiver to tight end midway through the year."
So in summary burn the redshirt on a 4-star All-American so he can total 3 special teams tackles. Oh and just for fun lets have him change positions. No big deal.
Turns out he was a LOT better as a RS-Soph than a frosh.
If there is one player worth 2-3 wins you have a coach who is a fucking idiot.
I'm sure Oregon would agree Dennis Dixon's knee was worth 2-3 wins.
Locker was probably worth 3 wins if UW takes off his redshirt when Stanback goes down.
I still hope Jeff shocks the world and runs with the position (literally), but if he truly is as bad as people say he was in that 2nd half, it's not out of the realm to believe Browning could have that type of impact.
That said, I've lost all respect for you.