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Roof Think Browning Should Start

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  • BallSackedBallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    dnc said:

    Doogles said:

    Saying a guy at the QB position is worth 2-3 wins relative to their backup is not the same thing as saying John Ross is worth 2-3 wins.

    I'm sure Oregon would agree Dennis Dixon's knee was worth 2-3 wins.

    How many true frosh qbs have ever been worth 3 wins? Brownings not going to be the third to fourth all time.
    Josh Rosen.
  • LoneStarDawgLoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,572 Founders Club
    edited July 2015

    To Bronco Bob 12, or @brchco12, whatever... one of Ice-T's best:

    Teach me how to be cool!

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  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    brchco12 said:

    To Bronco Bob 12, or @brchco12, whatever... one of Ice-T's best:

    Teach me how to be cool!

    image
    Watch and learn, brother... watch and learn.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsiCokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    brchco12 said:

    Cody Pickett played as a true freshman and everyone thought he sucked and we were fucked. HTH.

    Turns out he was a LOT better as a RS-Soph than a frosh.

    I'm one of those taylor barton doogs that was not happy to see pickett win the job. #trueconfessions
    I think you might have a great idea here for a terrific thread: Name your most embarrassing doog moment of your Husky fandom (Or Coog, Quook, and Broon moment for our nerds from other schools)
  • RavennaDawgRavennaDawg Member Posts: 846
    TTJ said:

    Whomever gives us the best chance to win should play. Why is this so difficult?

    If Browning plays in 2015, he will be worlds better as a true soph in 2016 than he will as a rs-frosh. And he will be better in 2017, and 2018.

    No one has ever said "That guy would be a better player if only he had spent last year on the bench in stead of seeing the field."

    If Lindquist gives us the best chance to win, he should play.



    Riddle me this, shit-for-brains: how good was Saint Marques in 2001?
    Much better than he would have been with only 3 years of seeing the field under his belt.

    Why is this so hard for people?

    Michael Vick was great as a rs-frosh, yet somehow that means he would not have been even better as a true soph? Explain that.

  • RavennaDawgRavennaDawg Member Posts: 846

    Cody Pickett played as a true freshman and everyone thought he sucked and we were fucked. HTH.

    Turns out he was a LOT better as a RS-Soph than a frosh.

    No kidding?

    How is this relevant to what we are talking about?

    As Bill Swartz famously said during the Nebraska game in 1997, "Those aren't the Lake Washington Kangaroos Marques is looking at." For anyone to pretend that Tui's development was not accelerated by gametime in 1997 is absurd. Do people think nothing he learned after seeing the field for 3 years was integral to his outstanding season in 2000?

  • AlCzervikAlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774
    TTJ said:

    I'd rather have Browning play in 2019 than Browning play in 2015

    Thank you. It amazes me how few people understand this concept.
    So 2019 is going to be special?
  • HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 5,237 Standard Supporter
    Pretty tough to compare the Tui situation and the pending Browning situation since Tui had more talented and complete teams around him.

    But Browning was around for 15 practices in the spring and is a more advanced passer at his current stage while IIRC, Tui didn't graduate early and was more of an option guy coming out of high school.

    And IIRC, Tui's first game was when Huard got hurt and we were down against Nebraska but Tui got us back in the game, especially with some deep balls to Jerome Pathon. I was there that day and was bummed we lost but remember being excited about what the future would hold for MT.

    One interesting thing to note is that in his first high school varsity game (as a soph), Browning threw for 689 yards and 10 touchdowns (setting a state record for touchdowns in a game). Combine that early success will the fact that he also graduated early to get here for spring ball tells me he has no intention of redshirting in 2015. But will he show a lot more progress in the fall and force the coaches to start him instead of one of the older guys? I'm guessing that Petersen doesn't think it's likely considering he wanted another body (Tony Montana) as a buffer to preserve Browning's redshirt after seeing the 3 QBs in the spring.
  • TTJTTJ Member Posts: 4,821
    There is a mountain of evidence that playing true frosh is fool's gold. (At any position, much less QB.) And zero evidence that redshirting somehow retards a player's development.

    This is so astonishingly uncomplicated.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    TTJ said:

    There is a mountain of evidence that playing true frosh is fool's gold. (At any position, much less QB.) And zero evidence that redshirting somehow retards a player's development.

    This is so astonishingly uncomplicated.

    [citation needed]
  • RavennaDawgRavennaDawg Member Posts: 846

    TTJ said:

    There is a mountain of evidence that playing true frosh is fool's gold. (At any position, much less QB.) And zero evidence that redshirting somehow retards a player's development.

    This is so astonishingly uncomplicated.

    [citation needed]
    Since he made it up, he will have difficulty finding a citation.

    I remember watching Kaufman in 1992, thinking "Wow, he is really good. Think how much better he would be if he had spent last year sitting on the bench and this was his first year playing. And I would feel more comfortable with Bruener if he had not caught that td in the Rose Bowl last year."

    Do people sincerely think Tui learned nothing from 1997 that he could have learned simply from watching from the sideline? Are Baker and Dissly are less prepared for 2015 because they played last year?

    Playing prepares you for playing.

  • seatownfunkseatownfunk Member Posts: 806
    What if Mario and Orlando redshirted???? 1992 could have been special.
  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    What if Mario and Orlando redshirted???? 1992 could have been special.

    Orlando sucked. HTH.
  • TTJTTJ Member Posts: 4,821
    edited July 2015

    TTJ said:

    There is a mountain of evidence that playing true frosh is fool's gold. (At any position, much less QB.) And zero evidence that redshirting somehow retards a player's development.

    This is so astonishingly uncomplicated.

    [citation needed]
    If you need citations to understand that true frosh suck as a general rule, I cannot help you. Re-watching the past twenty years of Husky football would be a good start. Or perhaps re-reading this thread.
  • HuskyInAZHuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
    In the perfect world, in order of importance.....

    1. Redshirt all OL and DL
    2. Redshirt QBs
    3. Redshirt everyone else

    At the end of the day, best players play.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,812
    TTJ said:

    TTJ said:

    There is a mountain of evidence that playing true frosh is fool's gold. (At any position, much less QB.) And zero evidence that redshirting somehow retards a player's development.

    This is so astonishingly uncomplicated.

    [citation needed]
    If you need citations to understand that true frosh suck as a general rule, I cannot help you. Re-watching the past twenty years of Husky football would be a good start. Or perhaps re-reading this thread.
    That's some dark shit man. You have me wondering if I even want to keep poasting here.
  • TTJTTJ Member Posts: 4,821
    dnc said:

    That's some dark shit man. You have me wondering if I even want to keep poasting here.

    @dnc is right. I owe boobs an apology. I shouldn't wish something like that on anybody.

    I will start another thread comprehensively listing every Husky who truly excelled as a true frosh over the past 25 years.
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,312 Swaye's Wigwam

    HuskyInAZ said:

    In the perfect world, in order of importance.....

    1. Redshirt all OL and DL
    2. Redshirt QBs
    3. Redshirt everyone else

    At the end of the day, best players play.

    Exactly how I feel.

    You guys are dooging so hard for Browning it's unsettling.
    Because of the potential shitshow passing offense we might see this year if it's not him.
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