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9 Black People Gunned Down at Bible Study, Obvious Hate Crime
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That is the libertarian logic on booze, drugs, and sex workers. Making a desired good illegal only increases the cost and the criminal activity around it. I mean prohibition worked great!OZONE said:
By that logic, we should have no laws since criminals just ignore them...HuskyJW said:AZDuck said:
Sure. But every time one of these things happens, I ask - why the fuck can't we regulate firearms in this country?TierbsHsotBoobs said:There's no controversy on this one.
Dude is a racist asshole who deserves the chair.
I don't like living in a world where you need to pack heat at bible study
If they would've had a sign out front that specifically said "No Firearms Allowed." This never would've happened. Because you know......criminals follow the law
Speaking of...built my AR lower yesterday. Halfway done.
So our crack and meth dealers can run guns too and continue to kill each other at an alarming rate. you do realize most gun deaths are due to the idiotic idea of making drugs a street industry.
Logic can be your friend. Less laws are exactly what we need -
The VC didn't win Vietnam with their small arms.RaceBannon said:
I'm a little disappointed that a fellow VC who spent time with me in the jungles of Cuba before we stormed the casinos would so easily down play even small weapons in the hands of anti government forces.ThomasFremont said:
While this sounds nice, the Revolution wasn't won because we got to the guns at Lexington or Ticonderoga (sure it helped). It was won because of the Atlantic Ocean, time, attrition, the sagging economy of a war weary England, and the French.Swaye said:
I like guns just fine. Use them to shoot deer every season since I was a boy with both Dads in a blind. But, this has much less to do with "loving" guns, and much more to do with believing in liberty, and the governments desire to restrict my ability to protect myself from that same government.allpurpleallgold said:The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.
Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.
It always amuses me that when you tell people (liberals mostly) you want guns to potentially defend yourself from jack booted government thugs, they look at you like you have two heads and are some kind of crazy domestic terrorist. Um, that is precisely what most of the guys on those bills we don't use anymore did. The redcoats were the ATF/FBI/whatever of their day. When what we now call patriots took up arms against them, because of a fundamental belief in liberty and self governance, they were committing domestic terrorism. Thank God they got to that arsenal in Lexington before the redcoats, or the revolution would have been over before it started. The limeys realized, correctly, they better steal the weapons first. The patriots realized, correctly, the only way to defend yourself in any meaningful way was to have them.
Do I think any of this happens in my lifetime? No, at least I certainly hope not. But, I believe in gun rights because I have no idea what might happen in a hundred years, and I want your great grandkids and any of my illegitimate grandkids to at least have to means to defend themselves and liberty from an overzealous government, or a common intruder, or a fucking Skynet activated robot army. Also, venison tastes good and everyone should shoot a deer and figure this out at least once in their life.
But if you want to oversimplify a major historical event into a single issue, that's your right!
Like the US in VietNam, the paper cuts added up to enough death to make the government back across the ocean say fuck it
We don't win the revolution without guns
HTH -
I think booze, drugs, and sex workers should all be legal and regulated. Just like guns.RaceBannon said:
That is the libertarian logic on booze, drugs, and sex workers. Making a desired good illegal only increases the cost and the criminal activity around it. I mean prohibition worked great!OZONE said:
By that logic, we should have no laws since criminals just ignore them...HuskyJW said:AZDuck said:
Sure. But every time one of these things happens, I ask - why the fuck can't we regulate firearms in this country?TierbsHsotBoobs said:There's no controversy on this one.
Dude is a racist asshole who deserves the chair.
I don't like living in a world where you need to pack heat at bible study
If they would've had a sign out front that specifically said "No Firearms Allowed." This never would've happened. Because you know......criminals follow the law
Speaking of...built my AR lower yesterday. Halfway done.
So our crack and meth dealers can run guns too and continue to kill each other at an alarming rate. you do realize most gun deaths are due to the idiotic idea of making drugs a street industry.
Logic can be your friend. Less laws are exactly what we need
Regulation =/= Prohibition -
And yet only guns are, hence my point that you ignored. 9 dead Blacks is a very slow Saturday in Chicago.
Yet guns are heavily regulated. Let's address reality not political point making -
They are known for having small arms. They are a small people to begin with.ThomasFremont said:
The VC didn't win Vietnam with their small arms.RaceBannon said:
I'm a little disappointed that a fellow VC who spent time with me in the jungles of Cuba before we stormed the casinos would so easily down play even small weapons in the hands of anti government forces.ThomasFremont said:
While this sounds nice, the Revolution wasn't won because we got to the guns at Lexington or Ticonderoga (sure it helped). It was won because of the Atlantic Ocean, time, attrition, the sagging economy of a war weary England, and the French.Swaye said:
I like guns just fine. Use them to shoot deer every season since I was a boy with both Dads in a blind. But, this has much less to do with "loving" guns, and much more to do with believing in liberty, and the governments desire to restrict my ability to protect myself from that same government.allpurpleallgold said:The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.
Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.
It always amuses me that when you tell people (liberals mostly) you want guns to potentially defend yourself from jack booted government thugs, they look at you like you have two heads and are some kind of crazy domestic terrorist. Um, that is precisely what most of the guys on those bills we don't use anymore did. The redcoats were the ATF/FBI/whatever of their day. When what we now call patriots took up arms against them, because of a fundamental belief in liberty and self governance, they were committing domestic terrorism. Thank God they got to that arsenal in Lexington before the redcoats, or the revolution would have been over before it started. The limeys realized, correctly, they better steal the weapons first. The patriots realized, correctly, the only way to defend yourself in any meaningful way was to have them.
Do I think any of this happens in my lifetime? No, at least I certainly hope not. But, I believe in gun rights because I have no idea what might happen in a hundred years, and I want your great grandkids and any of my illegitimate grandkids to at least have to means to defend themselves and liberty from an overzealous government, or a common intruder, or a fucking Skynet activated robot army. Also, venison tastes good and everyone should shoot a deer and figure this out at least once in their life.
But if you want to oversimplify a major historical event into a single issue, that's your right!
Like the US in VietNam, the paper cuts added up to enough death to make the government back across the ocean say fuck it
We don't win the revolution without guns
HTH
The US crushed the NVA every time they met. Conventional battle went as well for the slopes as it did for the US rebels.
The VC used small arms and terror tactics to kill the will to fight. Too many US casualties for too little to gain -
Um, no. I don't think that guns are heavily regulated at all.RaceBannon said:And yet only guns are, hence my point that you ignored. 9 dead Blacks is a very slow Saturday in Chicago.
Yet guns are heavily regulated. Let's address reality not political point making
Guess how many firearm deaths there were in Honolulu last year?
The O/U is 5 -
guns are heavily regulated in Chicago and NYC for that matter
fuck the island. NOGAF
Guess how many firearm deaths in Chicago last month? -
C'mon Race, read the thread.RaceBannon said:guns are heavily regulated in Chicago and NYC for that matter
fuck the island. NOGAF
Guess how many firearm deaths in Chicago last month?
How many checkpoints are there between the Wisconsin or Indiana borders and Chicago?
zero-point-zero -
Ya think?RaceBannon said:
They are known for having small arms. They are a small people to begin with.ThomasFremont said:
The VC didn't win Vietnam with their small arms.RaceBannon said:
I'm a little disappointed that a fellow VC who spent time with me in the jungles of Cuba before we stormed the casinos would so easily down play even small weapons in the hands of anti government forces.ThomasFremont said:
While this sounds nice, the Revolution wasn't won because we got to the guns at Lexington or Ticonderoga (sure it helped). It was won because of the Atlantic Ocean, time, attrition, the sagging economy of a war weary England, and the French.Swaye said:
I like guns just fine. Use them to shoot deer every season since I was a boy with both Dads in a blind. But, this has much less to do with "loving" guns, and much more to do with believing in liberty, and the governments desire to restrict my ability to protect myself from that same government.allpurpleallgold said:The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.
Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.
It always amuses me that when you tell people (liberals mostly) you want guns to potentially defend yourself from jack booted government thugs, they look at you like you have two heads and are some kind of crazy domestic terrorist. Um, that is precisely what most of the guys on those bills we don't use anymore did. The redcoats were the ATF/FBI/whatever of their day. When what we now call patriots took up arms against them, because of a fundamental belief in liberty and self governance, they were committing domestic terrorism. Thank God they got to that arsenal in Lexington before the redcoats, or the revolution would have been over before it started. The limeys realized, correctly, they better steal the weapons first. The patriots realized, correctly, the only way to defend yourself in any meaningful way was to have them.
Do I think any of this happens in my lifetime? No, at least I certainly hope not. But, I believe in gun rights because I have no idea what might happen in a hundred years, and I want your great grandkids and any of my illegitimate grandkids to at least have to means to defend themselves and liberty from an overzealous government, or a common intruder, or a fucking Skynet activated robot army. Also, venison tastes good and everyone should shoot a deer and figure this out at least once in their life.
But if you want to oversimplify a major historical event into a single issue, that's your right!
Like the US in VietNam, the paper cuts added up to enough death to make the government back across the ocean say fuck it
We don't win the revolution without guns
HTH
The US crushed the NVA every time they met. Conventional battle went as well for the slopes as it did for the US rebels.
The VC used small arms and terror tactics to kill the will to fight. Too many US casualties for too little to gain
The VC still had their small arms when their northern "brothers" took over and "re-educated" all of them.
A whole lotta good their small arms did then.
We done here, or you want to keep going? -
I'm glad that nobody so far except Blackie thinks that people have the right to own anti aircraft weapons... as a flying boat owner... I don't want to have to worry about crazies shooting me down in a fit of rage.
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So you want a national ban on gunsAZDuck said:
C'mon Race, read the thread.RaceBannon said:guns are heavily regulated in Chicago and NYC for that matter
fuck the island. NOGAF
Guess how many firearm deaths in Chicago last month?
How many checkpoints are there between the Wisconsin or Indiana borders and Chicago?
zero-point-zero
#Blackieisright
These street gangs are getting their guns from Indiana? Along with gay wedding cakes?
Heavily regulated areas have high homicide rates.
Again - unless you want to be honest about what you want you're just playing to the low info voter. (hi Hondo!) -
Of course I think - that's why I said it and you now agree. The VC weren't re educated. You're pressing now.ThomasFremont said:
Ya think?RaceBannon said:
They are known for having small arms. They are a small people to begin with.ThomasFremont said:
The VC didn't win Vietnam with their small arms.RaceBannon said:
I'm a little disappointed that a fellow VC who spent time with me in the jungles of Cuba before we stormed the casinos would so easily down play even small weapons in the hands of anti government forces.ThomasFremont said:
While this sounds nice, the Revolution wasn't won because we got to the guns at Lexington or Ticonderoga (sure it helped). It was won because of the Atlantic Ocean, time, attrition, the sagging economy of a war weary England, and the French.Swaye said:
I like guns just fine. Use them to shoot deer every season since I was a boy with both Dads in a blind. But, this has much less to do with "loving" guns, and much more to do with believing in liberty, and the governments desire to restrict my ability to protect myself from that same government.allpurpleallgold said:The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.
Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.
It always amuses me that when you tell people (liberals mostly) you want guns to potentially defend yourself from jack booted government thugs, they look at you like you have two heads and are some kind of crazy domestic terrorist. Um, that is precisely what most of the guys on those bills we don't use anymore did. The redcoats were the ATF/FBI/whatever of their day. When what we now call patriots took up arms against them, because of a fundamental belief in liberty and self governance, they were committing domestic terrorism. Thank God they got to that arsenal in Lexington before the redcoats, or the revolution would have been over before it started. The limeys realized, correctly, they better steal the weapons first. The patriots realized, correctly, the only way to defend yourself in any meaningful way was to have them.
Do I think any of this happens in my lifetime? No, at least I certainly hope not. But, I believe in gun rights because I have no idea what might happen in a hundred years, and I want your great grandkids and any of my illegitimate grandkids to at least have to means to defend themselves and liberty from an overzealous government, or a common intruder, or a fucking Skynet activated robot army. Also, venison tastes good and everyone should shoot a deer and figure this out at least once in their life.
But if you want to oversimplify a major historical event into a single issue, that's your right!
Like the US in VietNam, the paper cuts added up to enough death to make the government back across the ocean say fuck it
We don't win the revolution without guns
HTH
The US crushed the NVA every time they met. Conventional battle went as well for the slopes as it did for the US rebels.
The VC used small arms and terror tactics to kill the will to fight. Too many US casualties for too little to gain
The VC still had their small arms when their northern "brothers" took over and "re-educated" all of them.
A whole lotta good their small arms did then.
We done here, or you want to keep going?
Remember, I was there
#FakeWarriors -
OZONE said:
I'm glad that nobody so far except Blackie thinks that people have the right to own anti aircraft weapons... as a flying boat owner... I don't want to have to worry about crazies shooting me down in a fit of rage.
It would be wrong to put a flying boat in this picture -
Yes they were. The VC were nationalists, not communists. The commies from Hanoi came in and took over after we left. They didn't compromise or share.RaceBannon said:
Of course I think - that's why I said it and you now agree. The VC weren't re educated. You're pressing now.ThomasFremont said:
Ya think?RaceBannon said:
They are known for having small arms. They are a small people to begin with.ThomasFremont said:
The VC didn't win Vietnam with their small arms.RaceBannon said:
I'm a little disappointed that a fellow VC who spent time with me in the jungles of Cuba before we stormed the casinos would so easily down play even small weapons in the hands of anti government forces.ThomasFremont said:
While this sounds nice, the Revolution wasn't won because we got to the guns at Lexington or Ticonderoga (sure it helped). It was won because of the Atlantic Ocean, time, attrition, the sagging economy of a war weary England, and the French.Swaye said:
I like guns just fine. Use them to shoot deer every season since I was a boy with both Dads in a blind. But, this has much less to do with "loving" guns, and much more to do with believing in liberty, and the governments desire to restrict my ability to protect myself from that same government.allpurpleallgold said:The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.
Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.
It always amuses me that when you tell people (liberals mostly) you want guns to potentially defend yourself from jack booted government thugs, they look at you like you have two heads and are some kind of crazy domestic terrorist. Um, that is precisely what most of the guys on those bills we don't use anymore did. The redcoats were the ATF/FBI/whatever of their day. When what we now call patriots took up arms against them, because of a fundamental belief in liberty and self governance, they were committing domestic terrorism. Thank God they got to that arsenal in Lexington before the redcoats, or the revolution would have been over before it started. The limeys realized, correctly, they better steal the weapons first. The patriots realized, correctly, the only way to defend yourself in any meaningful way was to have them.
Do I think any of this happens in my lifetime? No, at least I certainly hope not. But, I believe in gun rights because I have no idea what might happen in a hundred years, and I want your great grandkids and any of my illegitimate grandkids to at least have to means to defend themselves and liberty from an overzealous government, or a common intruder, or a fucking Skynet activated robot army. Also, venison tastes good and everyone should shoot a deer and figure this out at least once in their life.
But if you want to oversimplify a major historical event into a single issue, that's your right!
Like the US in VietNam, the paper cuts added up to enough death to make the government back across the ocean say fuck it
We don't win the revolution without guns
HTH
The US crushed the NVA every time they met. Conventional battle went as well for the slopes as it did for the US rebels.
The VC used small arms and terror tactics to kill the will to fight. Too many US casualties for too little to gain
The VC still had their small arms when their northern "brothers" took over and "re-educated" all of them.
A whole lotta good their small arms did then.
We done here, or you want to keep going?
Remember, I was there
#FakeWarriors
You're losing yourself in my wheelhouse.
Step away. -
ThomasFremont said:
Yes they were. The VC were nationalists, not communists. The commies from Hanoi came in and took over after we left. They didn't compromise or share.RaceBannon said:
Of course I think - that's why I said it and you now agree. The VC weren't re educated. You're pressing now.ThomasFremont said:
Ya think?RaceBannon said:
They are known for having small arms. They are a small people to begin with.ThomasFremont said:
The VC didn't win Vietnam with their small arms.RaceBannon said:
I'm a little disappointed that a fellow VC who spent time with me in the jungles of Cuba before we stormed the casinos would so easily down play even small weapons in the hands of anti government forces.ThomasFremont said:
While this sounds nice, the Revolution wasn't won because we got to the guns at Lexington or Ticonderoga (sure it helped). It was won because of the Atlantic Ocean, time, attrition, the sagging economy of a war weary England, and the French.Swaye said:
I like guns just fine. Use them to shoot deer every season since I was a boy with both Dads in a blind. But, this has much less to do with "loving" guns, and much more to do with believing in liberty, and the governments desire to restrict my ability to protect myself from that same government.allpurpleallgold said:The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.
Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.
It always amuses me that when you tell people (liberals mostly) you want guns to potentially defend yourself from jack booted government thugs, they look at you like you have two heads and are some kind of crazy domestic terrorist. Um, that is precisely what most of the guys on those bills we don't use anymore did. The redcoats were the ATF/FBI/whatever of their day. When what we now call patriots took up arms against them, because of a fundamental belief in liberty and self governance, they were committing domestic terrorism. Thank God they got to that arsenal in Lexington before the redcoats, or the revolution would have been over before it started. The limeys realized, correctly, they better steal the weapons first. The patriots realized, correctly, the only way to defend yourself in any meaningful way was to have them.
Do I think any of this happens in my lifetime? No, at least I certainly hope not. But, I believe in gun rights because I have no idea what might happen in a hundred years, and I want your great grandkids and any of my illegitimate grandkids to at least have to means to defend themselves and liberty from an overzealous government, or a common intruder, or a fucking Skynet activated robot army. Also, venison tastes good and everyone should shoot a deer and figure this out at least once in their life.
But if you want to oversimplify a major historical event into a single issue, that's your right!
Like the US in VietNam, the paper cuts added up to enough death to make the government back across the ocean say fuck it
We don't win the revolution without guns
HTH
The US crushed the NVA every time they met. Conventional battle went as well for the slopes as it did for the US rebels.
The VC used small arms and terror tactics to kill the will to fight. Too many US casualties for too little to gain
The VC still had their small arms when their northern "brothers" took over and "re-educated" all of them.
A whole lotta good their small arms did then.
We done here, or you want to keep going?
Remember, I was there
#FakeWarriors
You're losing yourself in my wheelhouse.
Step away.
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You're wheelhouse is out of a book. While I wasn't there (really?) it was current events. The VC were nationalists. How cute.ThomasFremont said:
Yes they were. The VC were nationalists, not communists. The commies from Hanoi came in and took over after we left. They didn't compromise or share.RaceBannon said:
Of course I think - that's why I said it and you now agree. The VC weren't re educated. You're pressing now.ThomasFremont said:
Ya think?RaceBannon said:
They are known for having small arms. They are a small people to begin with.ThomasFremont said:
The VC didn't win Vietnam with their small arms.RaceBannon said:
I'm a little disappointed that a fellow VC who spent time with me in the jungles of Cuba before we stormed the casinos would so easily down play even small weapons in the hands of anti government forces.ThomasFremont said:
While this sounds nice, the Revolution wasn't won because we got to the guns at Lexington or Ticonderoga (sure it helped). It was won because of the Atlantic Ocean, time, attrition, the sagging economy of a war weary England, and the French.Swaye said:
I like guns just fine. Use them to shoot deer every season since I was a boy with both Dads in a blind. But, this has much less to do with "loving" guns, and much more to do with believing in liberty, and the governments desire to restrict my ability to protect myself from that same government.allpurpleallgold said:The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.
Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.
It always amuses me that when you tell people (liberals mostly) you want guns to potentially defend yourself from jack booted government thugs, they look at you like you have two heads and are some kind of crazy domestic terrorist. Um, that is precisely what most of the guys on those bills we don't use anymore did. The redcoats were the ATF/FBI/whatever of their day. When what we now call patriots took up arms against them, because of a fundamental belief in liberty and self governance, they were committing domestic terrorism. Thank God they got to that arsenal in Lexington before the redcoats, or the revolution would have been over before it started. The limeys realized, correctly, they better steal the weapons first. The patriots realized, correctly, the only way to defend yourself in any meaningful way was to have them.
Do I think any of this happens in my lifetime? No, at least I certainly hope not. But, I believe in gun rights because I have no idea what might happen in a hundred years, and I want your great grandkids and any of my illegitimate grandkids to at least have to means to defend themselves and liberty from an overzealous government, or a common intruder, or a fucking Skynet activated robot army. Also, venison tastes good and everyone should shoot a deer and figure this out at least once in their life.
But if you want to oversimplify a major historical event into a single issue, that's your right!
Like the US in VietNam, the paper cuts added up to enough death to make the government back across the ocean say fuck it
We don't win the revolution without guns
HTH
The US crushed the NVA every time they met. Conventional battle went as well for the slopes as it did for the US rebels.
The VC used small arms and terror tactics to kill the will to fight. Too many US casualties for too little to gain
The VC still had their small arms when their northern "brothers" took over and "re-educated" all of them.
A whole lotta good their small arms did then.
We done here, or you want to keep going?
Remember, I was there
#FakeWarriors
You're losing yourself in my wheelhouse.
Step away.
So was Ho. A nationalist commie.
Was is true in both Cuba and VN is that the new boss was well aware of the danger of individual gun ownership. Hence the disarming of the citizens.
Just like you commies want to do here!!!1111!!!! -
My books>>>>>your drum circles.RaceBannon said:
You're wheelhouse is out of a book. While I wasn't there (really?) it was current events. The VC were nationalists. How cute.ThomasFremont said:
Yes they were. The VC were nationalists, not communists. The commies from Hanoi came in and took over after we left. They didn't compromise or share.RaceBannon said:
Of course I think - that's why I said it and you now agree. The VC weren't re educated. You're pressing now.ThomasFremont said:
Ya think?RaceBannon said:
They are known for having small arms. They are a small people to begin with.ThomasFremont said:
The VC didn't win Vietnam with their small arms.RaceBannon said:
I'm a little disappointed that a fellow VC who spent time with me in the jungles of Cuba before we stormed the casinos would so easily down play even small weapons in the hands of anti government forces.ThomasFremont said:
While this sounds nice, the Revolution wasn't won because we got to the guns at Lexington or Ticonderoga (sure it helped). It was won because of the Atlantic Ocean, time, attrition, the sagging economy of a war weary England, and the French.Swaye said:
I like guns just fine. Use them to shoot deer every season since I was a boy with both Dads in a blind. But, this has much less to do with "loving" guns, and much more to do with believing in liberty, and the governments desire to restrict my ability to protect myself from that same government.allpurpleallgold said:The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.
Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.
It always amuses me that when you tell people (liberals mostly) you want guns to potentially defend yourself from jack booted government thugs, they look at you like you have two heads and are some kind of crazy domestic terrorist. Um, that is precisely what most of the guys on those bills we don't use anymore did. The redcoats were the ATF/FBI/whatever of their day. When what we now call patriots took up arms against them, because of a fundamental belief in liberty and self governance, they were committing domestic terrorism. Thank God they got to that arsenal in Lexington before the redcoats, or the revolution would have been over before it started. The limeys realized, correctly, they better steal the weapons first. The patriots realized, correctly, the only way to defend yourself in any meaningful way was to have them.
Do I think any of this happens in my lifetime? No, at least I certainly hope not. But, I believe in gun rights because I have no idea what might happen in a hundred years, and I want your great grandkids and any of my illegitimate grandkids to at least have to means to defend themselves and liberty from an overzealous government, or a common intruder, or a fucking Skynet activated robot army. Also, venison tastes good and everyone should shoot a deer and figure this out at least once in their life.
But if you want to oversimplify a major historical event into a single issue, that's your right!
Like the US in VietNam, the paper cuts added up to enough death to make the government back across the ocean say fuck it
We don't win the revolution without guns
HTH
The US crushed the NVA every time they met. Conventional battle went as well for the slopes as it did for the US rebels.
The VC used small arms and terror tactics to kill the will to fight. Too many US casualties for too little to gain
The VC still had their small arms when their northern "brothers" took over and "re-educated" all of them.
A whole lotta good their small arms did then.
We done here, or you want to keep going?
Remember, I was there
#FakeWarriors
You're losing yourself in my wheelhouse.
Step away.
So was Ho. A nationalist commie.
Was is true in both Cuba and VN is that the new boss was well aware of the danger of individual gun ownership. Hence the disarming of the citizens.
Just like you commies want to do here!!!1111!!!!
BTW, I never said I was against guns. I'm not. But you guys are abusing historical examples to support your position.
I will not abide that, dude. -
I won
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Have you ever lost?RaceBannon said:I won
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MelloDawg took him to school once.topdawgnc said:
Have you ever lost?RaceBannon said:I won
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AZDuck said:
Counterpoint:Swaye said:
Isle Gun Death Rate Lowest In U.S.
Not having black people or Southern white rednecks helps
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Swapping out black and messicans for orientals......that's not fair. I hear the orientals prefer nunchucks and swords, which is cheating, as there is no impact on gun violence.
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allpurpleallgold said:
MelloDawg took him to school once.topdawgnc said:
Have you ever lost?RaceBannon said:I won
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This is kind of racist in a new way and I feel tingly all overTierbsHsotBoobs said:AZDuck said:
Counterpoint:Swaye said:
Isle Gun Death Rate Lowest In U.S.
Not having black people or Southern white rednecks helps -
Guns aren't hard to get. Pretty much anyone without a criminal background can go buy one. A buddy of mine at the time got a Mosberg shotgun right after he turned 18. There are plenty of psycho's that don't have criminal records barring them from getting guns in their late teens and early 20's. Criminals can buy them at private trade shows in 40 states with no required background checks. You gun nuts must enjoy having your head in the sand.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/06/18/the-legal-loophole-that-allowed-dylann-roof-to-get-a-gun/
I enjoy shooting guns. When I was in college, we would go up in the mountains and set up empty liquor bottles to shoot. AR-15's, AK47's, 1911's. Shooting shit is fun. But the gun laws in this country are not working. -
I'm all for a more comprehensive records check in firearm sales. However the gaping hole that exists there is HIIPA privacy laws. You can't access history of mental illness with a pre-sale records check. If you're a felon you won't get a firearm legally. It's been that way since way before Puppy was goin all discipline hole even. But you can't check med records including history of mental illness with a records check. It's the nutjobs that are doin this shit. At least the big ones. And the HIIPA laws aren't going anywhere.allpurpleallgold said:The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.
Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.
Background checks seem like a logical answer to helping to keep firearms out of the wrong peoples hand. But given the above and the black market. Crazy mutha fuckahs will get their hands on a piece if they really want one. -
England just needed more timeThomasFremont said:
While this sounds nice, the Revolution wasn't won because we got to the guns at Lexington or Ticonderoga (sure it helped). It was won because of the Atlantic Ocean, time, attrition, the sagging economy of a war weary England, and the French.Swaye said:
I like guns just fine. Use them to shoot deer every season since I was a boy with both Dads in a blind. But, this has much less to do with "loving" guns, and much more to do with believing in liberty, and the governments desire to restrict my ability to protect myself from that same government.allpurpleallgold said:The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.
Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.
It always amuses me that when you tell people (liberals mostly) you want guns to potentially defend yourself from jack booted government thugs, they look at you like you have two heads and are some kind of crazy domestic terrorist. Um, that is precisely what most of the guys on those bills we don't use anymore did. The redcoats were the ATF/FBI/whatever of their day. When what we now call patriots took up arms against them, because of a fundamental belief in liberty and self governance, they were committing domestic terrorism. Thank God they got to that arsenal in Lexington before the redcoats, or the revolution would have been over before it started. The limeys realized, correctly, they better steal the weapons first. The patriots realized, correctly, the only way to defend yourself in any meaningful way was to have them.
Do I think any of this happens in my lifetime? No, at least I certainly hope not. But, I believe in gun rights because I have no idea what might happen in a hundred years, and I want your great grandkids and any of my illegitimate grandkids to at least have to means to defend themselves and liberty from an overzealous government, or a common intruder, or a fucking Skynet activated robot army. Also, venison tastes good and everyone should shoot a deer and figure this out at least once in their life.
But if you want to oversimplify a major historical event into a single issue, that's your right! -
What's not working?RoadDawg55 said:Guns aren't hard to get. Pretty much anyone without a criminal background can go buy one. A buddy of mine at the time got a Mosberg shotgun right after he turned 18. There are plenty of psycho's that don't have criminal records barring them from getting guns in their late teens and early 20's. Criminals can buy them at private trade shows in 40 states with no required background checks. You gun nuts must enjoy having your head in the sand.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/06/18/the-legal-loophole-that-allowed-dylann-roof-to-get-a-gun/
I enjoy shooting guns. When I was in college, we would go up in the mountains and set up empty liquor bottles to shoot. AR-15's, AK47's, 1911's. Shooting shit is fun. But the gun laws in this country are not working.
Crimes involving firearms make up 8% of all violent incidents (Bureau of Justice).
We have a scenario where a fucking crazy shoots up 9 innocent people, can you say the knife laws of China aren't working because some crazy sliced up a crowd?
Here's another stat:
11,000 people were murdered by a gun last year. If we cut the American population to represent just the adult population (approximately 15,000,000)... you have a .0008% chance of the gun laws failing you.
Wanting to rewrite the gun laws over the media hyperbole ... is like wanting to rewrite the health care laws because 10% of American's are not covered.
The facts don't back up anyone's anti-gun argument.
This entire thread is about emotion.
It's right where Obama want's us to be ... arguing irrationally on emotion. -
It's a solid post but I'd stay away from that healthcare argument. I can think of a group that's just over 10% of the population that's had a lot of laws rewritten for them.topdawgnc said:
What's not working?RoadDawg55 said:Guns aren't hard to get. Pretty much anyone without a criminal background can go buy one. A buddy of mine at the time got a Mosberg shotgun right after he turned 18. There are plenty of psycho's that don't have criminal records barring them from getting guns in their late teens and early 20's. Criminals can buy them at private trade shows in 40 states with no required background checks. You gun nuts must enjoy having your head in the sand.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/06/18/the-legal-loophole-that-allowed-dylann-roof-to-get-a-gun/
I enjoy shooting guns. When I was in college, we would go up in the mountains and set up empty liquor bottles to shoot. AR-15's, AK47's, 1911's. Shooting shit is fun. But the gun laws in this country are not working.
Crimes involving firearms make up 8% of all violent incidents (Bureau of Justice).
We have a scenario where a fucking crazy shoots up 9 innocent people, can you say the knife laws of China aren't working because some crazy sliced up a crowd?
Here's another stat:
11,000 people were murdered by a gun last year. If we cut the American population to represent just the adult population (approximately 15,000,000)... you have a .0008% chance of the gun laws failing you.
Wanting to rewrite the gun laws over the media hyperbole ... is like wanting to rewrite the health care laws because 10% of American's are not covered.
The facts don't back up anyone's anti-gun argument.
This entire thread is about emotion.
It's right where Obama want's us to be ... arguing irrationally on emotion. -
I specifically said no racist crap.allpurpleallgold said:
It's a solid post but I'd stay away from that healthcare argument. I can think of a group that's just over 10% of the population that's had a lot of laws rewritten for them.topdawgnc said:
What's not working?RoadDawg55 said:Guns aren't hard to get. Pretty much anyone without a criminal background can go buy one. A buddy of mine at the time got a Mosberg shotgun right after he turned 18. There are plenty of psycho's that don't have criminal records barring them from getting guns in their late teens and early 20's. Criminals can buy them at private trade shows in 40 states with no required background checks. You gun nuts must enjoy having your head in the sand.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/06/18/the-legal-loophole-that-allowed-dylann-roof-to-get-a-gun/
I enjoy shooting guns. When I was in college, we would go up in the mountains and set up empty liquor bottles to shoot. AR-15's, AK47's, 1911's. Shooting shit is fun. But the gun laws in this country are not working.
Crimes involving firearms make up 8% of all violent incidents (Bureau of Justice).
We have a scenario where a fucking crazy shoots up 9 innocent people, can you say the knife laws of China aren't working because some crazy sliced up a crowd?
Here's another stat:
11,000 people were murdered by a gun last year. If we cut the American population to represent just the adult population (approximately 15,000,000)... you have a .0008% chance of the gun laws failing you.
Wanting to rewrite the gun laws over the media hyperbole ... is like wanting to rewrite the health care laws because 10% of American's are not covered.
The facts don't back up anyone's anti-gun argument.
This entire thread is about emotion.
It's right where Obama want's us to be ... arguing irrationally on emotion.
