9 Black People Gunned Down at Bible Study, Obvious Hate Crime
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AZDuck said:
Counterpoint:Swaye said:
Isle Gun Death Rate Lowest In U.S.
Not having black people or Southern white rednecks helps
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Swapping out black and messicans for orientals......that's not fair. I hear the orientals prefer nunchucks and swords, which is cheating, as there is no impact on gun violence.
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allpurpleallgold said:
MelloDawg took him to school once.topdawgnc said:
Have you ever lost?RaceBannon said:I won
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This is kind of racist in a new way and I feel tingly all overTierbsHsotBoobs said:AZDuck said:
Counterpoint:Swaye said:
Isle Gun Death Rate Lowest In U.S.
Not having black people or Southern white rednecks helps -
Guns aren't hard to get. Pretty much anyone without a criminal background can go buy one. A buddy of mine at the time got a Mosberg shotgun right after he turned 18. There are plenty of psycho's that don't have criminal records barring them from getting guns in their late teens and early 20's. Criminals can buy them at private trade shows in 40 states with no required background checks. You gun nuts must enjoy having your head in the sand.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/06/18/the-legal-loophole-that-allowed-dylann-roof-to-get-a-gun/
I enjoy shooting guns. When I was in college, we would go up in the mountains and set up empty liquor bottles to shoot. AR-15's, AK47's, 1911's. Shooting shit is fun. But the gun laws in this country are not working. -
I'm all for a more comprehensive records check in firearm sales. However the gaping hole that exists there is HIIPA privacy laws. You can't access history of mental illness with a pre-sale records check. If you're a felon you won't get a firearm legally. It's been that way since way before Puppy was goin all discipline hole even. But you can't check med records including history of mental illness with a records check. It's the nutjobs that are doin this shit. At least the big ones. And the HIIPA laws aren't going anywhere.allpurpleallgold said:The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.
Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.
Background checks seem like a logical answer to helping to keep firearms out of the wrong peoples hand. But given the above and the black market. Crazy mutha fuckahs will get their hands on a piece if they really want one. -
England just needed more timeThomasFremont said:
While this sounds nice, the Revolution wasn't won because we got to the guns at Lexington or Ticonderoga (sure it helped). It was won because of the Atlantic Ocean, time, attrition, the sagging economy of a war weary England, and the French.Swaye said:
I like guns just fine. Use them to shoot deer every season since I was a boy with both Dads in a blind. But, this has much less to do with "loving" guns, and much more to do with believing in liberty, and the governments desire to restrict my ability to protect myself from that same government.allpurpleallgold said:The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.
Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.
It always amuses me that when you tell people (liberals mostly) you want guns to potentially defend yourself from jack booted government thugs, they look at you like you have two heads and are some kind of crazy domestic terrorist. Um, that is precisely what most of the guys on those bills we don't use anymore did. The redcoats were the ATF/FBI/whatever of their day. When what we now call patriots took up arms against them, because of a fundamental belief in liberty and self governance, they were committing domestic terrorism. Thank God they got to that arsenal in Lexington before the redcoats, or the revolution would have been over before it started. The limeys realized, correctly, they better steal the weapons first. The patriots realized, correctly, the only way to defend yourself in any meaningful way was to have them.
Do I think any of this happens in my lifetime? No, at least I certainly hope not. But, I believe in gun rights because I have no idea what might happen in a hundred years, and I want your great grandkids and any of my illegitimate grandkids to at least have to means to defend themselves and liberty from an overzealous government, or a common intruder, or a fucking Skynet activated robot army. Also, venison tastes good and everyone should shoot a deer and figure this out at least once in their life.
But if you want to oversimplify a major historical event into a single issue, that's your right! -
What's not working?RoadDawg55 said:Guns aren't hard to get. Pretty much anyone without a criminal background can go buy one. A buddy of mine at the time got a Mosberg shotgun right after he turned 18. There are plenty of psycho's that don't have criminal records barring them from getting guns in their late teens and early 20's. Criminals can buy them at private trade shows in 40 states with no required background checks. You gun nuts must enjoy having your head in the sand.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/06/18/the-legal-loophole-that-allowed-dylann-roof-to-get-a-gun/
I enjoy shooting guns. When I was in college, we would go up in the mountains and set up empty liquor bottles to shoot. AR-15's, AK47's, 1911's. Shooting shit is fun. But the gun laws in this country are not working.
Crimes involving firearms make up 8% of all violent incidents (Bureau of Justice).
We have a scenario where a fucking crazy shoots up 9 innocent people, can you say the knife laws of China aren't working because some crazy sliced up a crowd?
Here's another stat:
11,000 people were murdered by a gun last year. If we cut the American population to represent just the adult population (approximately 15,000,000)... you have a .0008% chance of the gun laws failing you.
Wanting to rewrite the gun laws over the media hyperbole ... is like wanting to rewrite the health care laws because 10% of American's are not covered.
The facts don't back up anyone's anti-gun argument.
This entire thread is about emotion.
It's right where Obama want's us to be ... arguing irrationally on emotion. -
It's a solid post but I'd stay away from that healthcare argument. I can think of a group that's just over 10% of the population that's had a lot of laws rewritten for them.topdawgnc said:
What's not working?RoadDawg55 said:Guns aren't hard to get. Pretty much anyone without a criminal background can go buy one. A buddy of mine at the time got a Mosberg shotgun right after he turned 18. There are plenty of psycho's that don't have criminal records barring them from getting guns in their late teens and early 20's. Criminals can buy them at private trade shows in 40 states with no required background checks. You gun nuts must enjoy having your head in the sand.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/06/18/the-legal-loophole-that-allowed-dylann-roof-to-get-a-gun/
I enjoy shooting guns. When I was in college, we would go up in the mountains and set up empty liquor bottles to shoot. AR-15's, AK47's, 1911's. Shooting shit is fun. But the gun laws in this country are not working.
Crimes involving firearms make up 8% of all violent incidents (Bureau of Justice).
We have a scenario where a fucking crazy shoots up 9 innocent people, can you say the knife laws of China aren't working because some crazy sliced up a crowd?
Here's another stat:
11,000 people were murdered by a gun last year. If we cut the American population to represent just the adult population (approximately 15,000,000)... you have a .0008% chance of the gun laws failing you.
Wanting to rewrite the gun laws over the media hyperbole ... is like wanting to rewrite the health care laws because 10% of American's are not covered.
The facts don't back up anyone's anti-gun argument.
This entire thread is about emotion.
It's right where Obama want's us to be ... arguing irrationally on emotion. -
I specifically said no racist crap.allpurpleallgold said:
It's a solid post but I'd stay away from that healthcare argument. I can think of a group that's just over 10% of the population that's had a lot of laws rewritten for them.topdawgnc said:
What's not working?RoadDawg55 said:Guns aren't hard to get. Pretty much anyone without a criminal background can go buy one. A buddy of mine at the time got a Mosberg shotgun right after he turned 18. There are plenty of psycho's that don't have criminal records barring them from getting guns in their late teens and early 20's. Criminals can buy them at private trade shows in 40 states with no required background checks. You gun nuts must enjoy having your head in the sand.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/06/18/the-legal-loophole-that-allowed-dylann-roof-to-get-a-gun/
I enjoy shooting guns. When I was in college, we would go up in the mountains and set up empty liquor bottles to shoot. AR-15's, AK47's, 1911's. Shooting shit is fun. But the gun laws in this country are not working.
Crimes involving firearms make up 8% of all violent incidents (Bureau of Justice).
We have a scenario where a fucking crazy shoots up 9 innocent people, can you say the knife laws of China aren't working because some crazy sliced up a crowd?
Here's another stat:
11,000 people were murdered by a gun last year. If we cut the American population to represent just the adult population (approximately 15,000,000)... you have a .0008% chance of the gun laws failing you.
Wanting to rewrite the gun laws over the media hyperbole ... is like wanting to rewrite the health care laws because 10% of American's are not covered.
The facts don't back up anyone's anti-gun argument.
This entire thread is about emotion.
It's right where Obama want's us to be ... arguing irrationally on emotion.
