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Elite Coaches of the BCS Era (1998-2014) and Year 2

GladstoneGladstone Member Posts: 16,419
edited January 2015 in Hardcore Husky Board
Pete Carroll

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USC the previous 3 years: 19-18

Carroll year 1: 6-6, 5th in P12, L in Las Vegas Bowl
Carroll year 2: 11-2, 1st in P12, W in Orange Bowl

Bob Stoops

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Oklahoma the previous 3 years: 12-22

Stoops year 1: 7-5, 4th in B12, L in Independence Bowl
Stoops year 2: 13-0, 1st in B12, W in BCS NCG

Urban Meyer

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Florida the previous 3 years: 23-14

Meyer year 1: 9-3, 3rd in SEC, W in Outback Bowl
Meyer year 2: 13-1, 1st in SEC, W in BCS NCG

Jim Tressel

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Ohio State the previous 3 years: 25-11

Tressel year 1: 7-5, 3rd in B10, L in Outback Bowl
Tressel year 2: 14-0, 1st in B10, W in BCS NCG

Nick Saban

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LSU the previous 3 years: 15-18

Saban year 1: 8-4, 3rd in SEC, W in Peach Bowl
Saban year 2: 10-3, 1st in SEC, W in Sugar Bowl

Nick Saban

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Alabama the previous 3 years: 22-14

Saban year 1: 7-6, 6th in SEC, W in Independence Bowl
Saban year 2: 12-2, 1st in SEC, L in BCS NCG

Chip Kelly

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Oregon the previous 3 years: 26-13

Kelly year 1: 10-3, 1st in P12, L in Rose Bowl
Kelly year 2: 13-1, 1st in P12, L in BCS NCG

Chris Petersen

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Washington the previous 3 years: 22-16

Petersen year 1: 8-6, 6th in P12, L in Cactus Bowl
Petersen year 2: ???????????????

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So by looking at the elite coaches that entered a program during the BCS era, it takes a full season and offseason to start to yield success and show signs of greatness. If Petersen is who we hope he is -- then next year will tell us a lot.
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  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,568 Founders Club
    I also don't see it happening next year. The lines are a big question mark, especially on offense. As is QB. We could be really good in year 3, though.
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  • MuttzenMuttzen Member Posts: 1,015
    I agree that we should see something this year. This doesn't necessarily mean winning big, but it should mean improvement (see: Jim Harbaugh).
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  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Pete Pudwacker doesn't belong on this list. HTH.
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  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 25,120 Founders Club
    edited January 2015
    I'm not as pessimistic as some. They may go 9-3. The only big losses were on the o line. I agree that 2016 should be the breakout yr.
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  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited January 2015
    It will take the Huskies about 25 years to dig themselves out of the cavernous hole they're in. Oregon stands in between them and the fertile recruiting ground of California. Why would a skilled recruit from California want to go the extra 350 or so miles to rainy ass Seattle and become part of a dreckfest when they can compete for the chance to get to the championship every year if they become a duck?
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,826
    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    I'm not as pessimistic as some. They may go 9-3. The only big losses were on the o line. I agree that 2016 should be the breakout yr.

    Our Hawaiian born NT says hello.
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  • CokeGreaterThanPepsiCokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    oregonblitzkrieg said:

    It will take the Huskies about 25 years to dig themselves out of the cavernous hole they're in. Oregon stands in between them and the fertile recruiting ground of California. Why would a skilled recruit from California want to go the extra 350 or so miles to rainy ass Seattle and become part of a dreckfest when they can compete for the chance to get to the championship every year if they become a duck?

    Because they can?
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  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    oregonblitzkrieg said:

    It will take the Huskies about 25 years to dig themselves out of the cavernous hole they're in. Oregon stands in between them and the fertile recruiting ground of California. Why would a skilled recruit from California want to go the extra 350 or so miles to rainy ass Seattle and become part of a dreckfest when they can compete for the chance to get to the championship every year if they become a duck?

    Because they can?
    Or because they're Buddah Baker dumb.
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  • CokeGreaterThanPepsiCokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    oregonblitzkrieg said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    oregonblitzkrieg said:

    It will take the Huskies about 25 years to dig themselves out of the cavernous hole they're in. Oregon stands in between them and the fertile recruiting ground of California. Why would a skilled recruit from California want to go the extra 350 or so miles to rainy ass Seattle and become part of a dreckfest when they can compete for the chance to get to the championship every year if they become a duck?

    Because they can?
    Or because they're Buddah Baker dumb.
    Ok?
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  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    I think year 3 might be optimistic. We should be pretty good by then, but the program has a long way to go. We will get a better sense after the season.

    I think when the QB, OL, and DL are upperclassmen is when it should happen.
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  • CokeGreaterThanPepsiCokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    RoadDawg55 said:

    I think year 3 might be optimistic. We should be pretty good by then, but the program has a long way to go. We will get a better sense after the season.

    I think when the QB, OL, and DL are upperclassmen is when it should happen.

    I might just be depressed from that experiment survey we are doing.
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  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 20,011
    The key next year will be less about the record and more about the eye test.

    There will be a lot of question marks and who really knows what to think of what we'll see. I'm not necessarily thinking that we can't be better next year despite some of the losses as there are also a number of areas where we are losing guys where I just have a hard time believing that an offseason of getting coached up won't give comparable (or even better) performance.

    The one thing that you have with all of those programs that have been put on that list (with Oregon being somewhat debatable of where you put them on this list), is that each of those programs are definitive blue blood programs. Washington has never been a blue blood program. They are a program that has the ability to perform at a blue blood level by taking comparable talent and using superior development and coaching to beat the blue bloods. Even though people like KJV and the LPT would lead you to believe that we've had great recruiting under Seven, the reality is that there are a boatload of holes in the recruiting (notably at the QB position). I really think that you're really looking at Years 3-4 for when the program under Petersen will take off.

    That being said, those that claim that we didn't see progress this year are sorely mistaken. Oregon was Oregon ... and that was what it was. UCLA turned a bit with Kikaha's injury and being the week of Peters getting kicked off the team. It was a game where we got 2 scores down and never really were able to get back on track. If you look at the other games, everything was a 1 score game. Stanford was even in the 4th quarter with the game turning on the failed fake punt. ASU was a tie game in the 4th quarter and the 2-score margin came with the pick 6 with 2 minutes to go in the game. Arizona was a game we controlled and should have won. And even with the Okie Lite bowl game, we lost by 1 score. This was all in a season where you were transitioning with culture and hard arguably one of the worst starting QBs in the history of Husky Football.

    The above paragraph is what we need to be looking into again next year. The ability to compete. The ability to put ourselves in position to win games. Narrowing the gap against us and the top teams in the conference. Whether that turns out to be 4, 5, 6, or 7 conference wins whatever. As TCU showed this year, if you have the right pieces in place, you can go from 4 wins to Top 3 in the nation.
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  • BallSackedBallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    edited January 2015
    The difference here is that CP inherited the worst roster, by far, and he is at a historically just okay recruiting school (relative to SC Florida Ohio St and oklahoma). Save Oregon, those were all "blue-blood" iconic programs they always have a high level of talent.

    I believe UW has the fewest returning starters in the Pac12 next year and they appear to have a major QB issue with a brand new OL and DL. That's not a recipe to make a turnaround like those guys listed above did. Carroll in year 2 had a 5th yr senior QB who would go on to win the Heisman.

    I think CP will succeed, and retake the North from the ducks eventually, but breaking .500 in 2015 will be a solid effort given what he inherited. If he goes 8-4 or 9-3 I will be impressed.
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  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 20,011
    BallSacked said:

    The difference here is that CP inherited the worst roster, by far, and he is at a historically just okay recruiting school (relative to SC Florida Ohio St and oklahoma). Save Oregon, those were all "blue-blood" iconic programs they always have a high level of talent.

    I believe UW has the fewest returning starters in the Pac12 next year and they appear to have a major QB issue with a brand new OL and DL. That's not a recipe to make a turnaround like those guys listed above did. Carroll in year 2 had a 5th yr senior QB who would go on to win the Heisman.

    I think CP will succeed, and retake the North from the ducks eventually, but breaking .500 in 2015 will be a solid effort given what he inherited. If he goes 8-4 or 9-3 I will be impressed.

    Stop plagiarizing my shit fucko
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  • GladstoneGladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    Teq,

    LSU football was decidedly unremarkable before Saban got there and certainly wasn't blue blood. Ditto Oregon before Kelly.
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  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 25,120 Founders Club
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    CHRIST. Really looking forward to exhibition season #12 in a row.

    So fucking young.


    Lather, rinse, repeat.

    Fucking this. They've been young since 2003. Every god damn year most teams take a hit at a position group. It's not like they have bad talent. They didn't have bad talent in 2009 He had his transition year. While expecting a RB is asking a lot, expecting the team to gel isn't.
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  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,568 Founders Club
    Love is a battlefield.
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