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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    LOL'd at Tukuafu.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Getting some bites. Nothing so far on atoe, ossai, tukuafu, the date, etc though
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,309 Founders Club
    LOL!

    Karma - Still butthurt about the "Fail Mary".

    Transitivity Stupidity - "Just beat the team that dominated you at home."

    Pure Stupidity - "Aaron Rodgers is better on one leg than Wilson is on two."

    Don't get me wrong. I think Rodgers is a damn good QB. But, I like how fans around the leauge still underestimate Wilson (he's just a game manager, etc.).
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club

    LOL!

    Karma - Still butthurt about the "Fail Mary".

    Transitivity Stupidity - "Just beat the team that dominated you at home."

    Pure Stupidity - "Aaron Rodgers is better on one leg than Wilson is on two."

    Don't get me wrong. I think Rodgers is a damn good QB. But, I like how fans around the leauge still underestimate Wilson (he's just a game manager, etc.).

    He really can't seem to shake the label. Until he wins another SB he won't get much respect. Even then he'll probably be viewed like Eli Manning, even though Eli is way more turnover prone.
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    A-Rod comment made me LOL
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited January 2015
    Those are the best 5 reasons you could come up with? :neutral_face:
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295

    LOL'd at Tukuafu.

    Thats a lot of beef hitting the hole!
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    that's why we play the game right. On paper means squat.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    edited January 2015
    I do find it funny when he says wilson isn't even a top 10 QB. give me 10 you'd take over him.
    reg season manning, brady, luck, rodgers, no one immediately comes to mind after that. maybe Ryan? Rivers?
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,309 Founders Club
    dhdawg said:

    I do find it funny when he says wilson isn't even a top 10 QB. give me 10 you'd take over him.
    reg season manning, brady, luck, rodgers, no one immediately comes to mind after that. maybe Ryan? Rivers?

    At this point in time, Wilson is right where he belongs. He is in good company with Brady, Rodgers, and Luck. Stick a fork in Manning, he's done. Matt Ryan can be good, but he doesn't have a good supporting cast around him. Rivers, while incredibly talented, doesn't seem to have what it takes to carry the team to the next level.
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    There are only a few QB's who can sniff Russ' jock.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    romo's in that category with rivers and ryan
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,613 Standard Supporter
    I'd take Brady, Rodgers, P. Manning, and probably Rapelisberger over RW but that's it, and Peyton is fading fast and RW is closing in on Rapelisberger's level.

    If he had a horrific knee, hip, or general leg injury and lost his speed, then he's probably behind the Romo/Rivers/Ryan class.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    ah yes, forgot Ben. that's my top 5.
    Luck Manning Brady Ben Rodgers in some order.
  • SteveInShelton
    SteveInShelton Member Posts: 1,611
    No way you take Manning over Wilson, unless you want to lose in the playoffs every year. Before the Patriots game you could make an argument for Flacco over Wilson but Flacco royally fucked up that game. Agree about Big Ben, the gap is closing there. Rodgers, Romo, Brady are better right now but are also older. I would probably take Luck too, his coaching staff seems retarded and I think Carroll would coach the turnovers out of him.
  • LaZoris
    LaZoris Member Posts: 1,734 Standard Supporter
    Best regular season QB of all-time... If not for sexy rexy and the dreckfest Bears he would win the "best QB without a ring" in a heartbeat over Marino and others.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited January 2015
    Doogles said:

    I'd take Brady, Rodgers, P. Manning, and probably Rapelisberger over RW but that's it, and Peyton is fading fast and RW is closing in on Rapelisberger's level.

    If he had a horrific knee, hip, or general leg injury and lost his speed, then he's probably behind the Romo/Rivers/Ryan class.

    Manning is done. He was horrific today. His postseason woes are only magnified by his decreasing physicality. He simply could not push the ball down the field.

    I noticed how he kept overthrowing his receivers during that stretch of 6 incomplete passes where Denver kept trying to go deep. This is because he no longer has the arm to afford touch on his deep ball. He is overthrowing because anything less than 100% and it won't get home or float for an easy pick.

    That was the moment I knew he was done. Psychologically this game finished him. Wilson is better today and forever more moving forward.
    Agreed.

    Great point earlier whoever mentioned Big Ben, I shouldn't have skipped him.

    When the 2015 season kicks off here's the rough order of QB's I'd want:

    1 Rodgers
    2 Brady
    3 Luck
    4 Ben
    5 Wilson
    6 Romo
    7 Brees
    8 Ryan
    9 Rivers

































    32 Peyton's corpse

    But I do think you can argue for Russ over 3 and 4, and Brady's going to hit the wall sometime in the next couple of years himself.

    It won't be long and it's Rodgers, Luck, Wilson as the top 3 QB's in the league. Wilson may never get recognized at that level, but he'll reach it rather easily.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    dnc said:

    Doogles said:

    I'd take Brady, Rodgers, P. Manning, and probably Rapelisberger over RW but that's it, and Peyton is fading fast and RW is closing in on Rapelisberger's level.

    If he had a horrific knee, hip, or general leg injury and lost his speed, then he's probably behind the Romo/Rivers/Ryan class.

    Manning is done. He was horrific today. His postseason woes are only magnified by his decreasing physicality. He simply could not push the ball down the field.

    I noticed how he kept overthrowing his receivers during that stretch of 6 incomplete passes where Denver kept trying to go deep. This is because he no longer has the arm to afford touch on his deep ball. He is overthrowing because anything less than 100% and it won't get home or float for an easy pick.

    That was the moment I knew he was done. Psychologically this game finished him. Wilson is better today and forever more moving forward.
    Agreed.

    Great point earlier whoever mentioned Big Ben, I shouldn't have skipped him.

    When the 2015 season kicks off here's the rough order of QB's I'd want:

    1 Rodgers
    2 Brady
    3 Luck
    4 Ben
    5 Wilson

    But I think you can argue for Russ over 3 and 4, and Brady's going to hit the wall sometime in the next couple of years himself.

    It won't be long and it's Rodgers, Luck, Wilson as the top 3 QB's in the league. Wilson may never get recognized at that level, but he'll reach it rather easily.
    Say, 34-17?
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    Doogles said:

    I'd take Brady, Rodgers, P. Manning, and probably Rapelisberger over RW but that's it, and Peyton is fading fast and RW is closing in on Rapelisberger's level.

    If he had a horrific knee, hip, or general leg injury and lost his speed, then he's probably behind the Romo/Rivers/Ryan class.

    Manning is done. He was horrific today. His postseason woes are only magnified by his decreasing physicality. He simply could not push the ball down the field.

    I noticed how he kept overthrowing his receivers during that stretch of 6 incomplete passes where Denver kept trying to go deep. This is because he no longer has the arm to afford touch on his deep ball. He is overthrowing because anything less than 100% and it won't get home or float for an easy pick.

    That was the moment I knew he was done. Psychologically this game finished him. Wilson is better today and forever more moving forward.
    Agreed.

    Great point earlier whoever mentioned Big Ben, I shouldn't have skipped him.

    When the 2015 season kicks off here's the rough order of QB's I'd want:

    1 Rodgers
    2 Brady
    3 Luck
    4 Ben
    5 Wilson
    6 Romo
    7 Brees
    8 Ryan
    9 Rivers

































    32 Peyton's corpse

    But do I think you can argue for Russ over 3 and 4, and Brady's going to hit the wall sometime in the next couple of years himself.

    It won't be long and it's Rodgers, Luck, Wilson as the top 3 QB's in the league. Wilson may never get recognized at that level, but he'll reach it rather easily.
    Lindley is way too high, and I put Rivers over Ryan and an aging Brees, otherwise concur.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    dnc said:

    Doogles said:

    I'd take Brady, Rodgers, P. Manning, and probably Rapelisberger over RW but that's it, and Peyton is fading fast and RW is closing in on Rapelisberger's level.

    If he had a horrific knee, hip, or general leg injury and lost his speed, then he's probably behind the Romo/Rivers/Ryan class.

    Manning is done. He was horrific today. His postseason woes are only magnified by his decreasing physicality. He simply could not push the ball down the field.

    I noticed how he kept overthrowing his receivers during that stretch of 6 incomplete passes where Denver kept trying to go deep. This is because he no longer has the arm to afford touch on his deep ball. He is overthrowing because anything less than 100% and it won't get home or float for an easy pick.

    That was the moment I knew he was done. Psychologically this game finished him. Wilson is better today and forever more moving forward.
    Agreed.

    Great point earlier whoever mentioned Big Ben, I shouldn't have skipped him.

    When the 2015 season kicks off here's the rough order of QB's I'd want:

    1 Rodgers
    2 Brady
    3 Luck
    4 Ben
    5 Wilson
    6 Romo
    7 Brees
    8 Ryan
    9 Rivers

































    32 Peyton's corpse

    But I do think you can argue for Russ over 3 and 4, and Brady's going to hit the wall sometime in the next couple of years himself.

    It won't be long and it's Rodgers, Luck, Wilson as the top 3 QB's in the league. Wilson may never get recognized at that level, but he'll reach it rather easily.
    CAL IS WAY TOO GOD DAMN HIGH!
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,309 Founders Club
    dhdawg said:

    now we have the seahawks fan asking me who ossai and atoe are

    Secret draft picks...
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,309 Founders Club
    "Yep. I was lost at #1. Russell Wilson is a product of his team. He is the perfect product for that team. Take a bottom dweller in the NFL and give them the choice... no one will take Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers. So best player on the field? Not even close. Isn't, and never has been, the best player on his own team."

    Same old argument about RW.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    Russell Wilson is possibly the best dual threat QB of all time. If Michael Vick was ever as good as Russell is, people would think he was the best QB in the league.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club
    Wilson is the Joe Montana of his generation. Watch and see