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  • LaZoris
    LaZoris Member Posts: 1,734 Standard Supporter
    Best regular season QB of all-time... If not for sexy rexy and the dreckfest Bears he would win the "best QB without a ring" in a heartbeat over Marino and others.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    edited January 2015
    Doogles said:

    I'd take Brady, Rodgers, P. Manning, and probably Rapelisberger over RW but that's it, and Peyton is fading fast and RW is closing in on Rapelisberger's level.

    If he had a horrific knee, hip, or general leg injury and lost his speed, then he's probably behind the Romo/Rivers/Ryan class.

    Manning is done. He was horrific today. His postseason woes are only magnified by his decreasing physicality. He simply could not push the ball down the field.

    I noticed how he kept overthrowing his receivers during that stretch of 6 incomplete passes where Denver kept trying to go deep. This is because he no longer has the arm to afford touch on his deep ball. He is overthrowing because anything less than 100% and it won't get home or float for an easy pick.

    That was the moment I knew he was done. Psychologically this game finished him. Wilson is better today and forever more moving forward.
    Agreed.

    Great point earlier whoever mentioned Big Ben, I shouldn't have skipped him.

    When the 2015 season kicks off here's the rough order of QB's I'd want:

    1 Rodgers
    2 Brady
    3 Luck
    4 Ben
    5 Wilson
    6 Romo
    7 Brees
    8 Ryan
    9 Rivers

































    32 Peyton's corpse

    But I do think you can argue for Russ over 3 and 4, and Brady's going to hit the wall sometime in the next couple of years himself.

    It won't be long and it's Rodgers, Luck, Wilson as the top 3 QB's in the league. Wilson may never get recognized at that level, but he'll reach it rather easily.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    dnc said:

    Doogles said:

    I'd take Brady, Rodgers, P. Manning, and probably Rapelisberger over RW but that's it, and Peyton is fading fast and RW is closing in on Rapelisberger's level.

    If he had a horrific knee, hip, or general leg injury and lost his speed, then he's probably behind the Romo/Rivers/Ryan class.

    Manning is done. He was horrific today. His postseason woes are only magnified by his decreasing physicality. He simply could not push the ball down the field.

    I noticed how he kept overthrowing his receivers during that stretch of 6 incomplete passes where Denver kept trying to go deep. This is because he no longer has the arm to afford touch on his deep ball. He is overthrowing because anything less than 100% and it won't get home or float for an easy pick.

    That was the moment I knew he was done. Psychologically this game finished him. Wilson is better today and forever more moving forward.
    Agreed.

    Great point earlier whoever mentioned Big Ben, I shouldn't have skipped him.

    When the 2015 season kicks off here's the rough order of QB's I'd want:

    1 Rodgers
    2 Brady
    3 Luck
    4 Ben
    5 Wilson

    But I think you can argue for Russ over 3 and 4, and Brady's going to hit the wall sometime in the next couple of years himself.

    It won't be long and it's Rodgers, Luck, Wilson as the top 3 QB's in the league. Wilson may never get recognized at that level, but he'll reach it rather easily.
    Say, 34-17?
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,800 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    Doogles said:

    I'd take Brady, Rodgers, P. Manning, and probably Rapelisberger over RW but that's it, and Peyton is fading fast and RW is closing in on Rapelisberger's level.

    If he had a horrific knee, hip, or general leg injury and lost his speed, then he's probably behind the Romo/Rivers/Ryan class.

    Manning is done. He was horrific today. His postseason woes are only magnified by his decreasing physicality. He simply could not push the ball down the field.

    I noticed how he kept overthrowing his receivers during that stretch of 6 incomplete passes where Denver kept trying to go deep. This is because he no longer has the arm to afford touch on his deep ball. He is overthrowing because anything less than 100% and it won't get home or float for an easy pick.

    That was the moment I knew he was done. Psychologically this game finished him. Wilson is better today and forever more moving forward.
    Agreed.

    Great point earlier whoever mentioned Big Ben, I shouldn't have skipped him.

    When the 2015 season kicks off here's the rough order of QB's I'd want:

    1 Rodgers
    2 Brady
    3 Luck
    4 Ben
    5 Wilson
    6 Romo
    7 Brees
    8 Ryan
    9 Rivers

































    32 Peyton's corpse

    But do I think you can argue for Russ over 3 and 4, and Brady's going to hit the wall sometime in the next couple of years himself.

    It won't be long and it's Rodgers, Luck, Wilson as the top 3 QB's in the league. Wilson may never get recognized at that level, but he'll reach it rather easily.
    Lindley is way too high, and I put Rivers over Ryan and an aging Brees, otherwise concur.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    dnc said:

    Doogles said:

    I'd take Brady, Rodgers, P. Manning, and probably Rapelisberger over RW but that's it, and Peyton is fading fast and RW is closing in on Rapelisberger's level.

    If he had a horrific knee, hip, or general leg injury and lost his speed, then he's probably behind the Romo/Rivers/Ryan class.

    Manning is done. He was horrific today. His postseason woes are only magnified by his decreasing physicality. He simply could not push the ball down the field.

    I noticed how he kept overthrowing his receivers during that stretch of 6 incomplete passes where Denver kept trying to go deep. This is because he no longer has the arm to afford touch on his deep ball. He is overthrowing because anything less than 100% and it won't get home or float for an easy pick.

    That was the moment I knew he was done. Psychologically this game finished him. Wilson is better today and forever more moving forward.
    Agreed.

    Great point earlier whoever mentioned Big Ben, I shouldn't have skipped him.

    When the 2015 season kicks off here's the rough order of QB's I'd want:

    1 Rodgers
    2 Brady
    3 Luck
    4 Ben
    5 Wilson
    6 Romo
    7 Brees
    8 Ryan
    9 Rivers

































    32 Peyton's corpse

    But I do think you can argue for Russ over 3 and 4, and Brady's going to hit the wall sometime in the next couple of years himself.

    It won't be long and it's Rodgers, Luck, Wilson as the top 3 QB's in the league. Wilson may never get recognized at that level, but he'll reach it rather easily.
    CAL IS WAY TOO GOD DAMN HIGH!
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,545 Founders Club
    dhdawg said:

    now we have the seahawks fan asking me who ossai and atoe are

    Secret draft picks...
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,545 Founders Club
    "Yep. I was lost at #1. Russell Wilson is a product of his team. He is the perfect product for that team. Take a bottom dweller in the NFL and give them the choice... no one will take Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers. So best player on the field? Not even close. Isn't, and never has been, the best player on his own team."

    Same old argument about RW.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,422 Standard Supporter
    Russell Wilson is possibly the best dual threat QB of all time. If Michael Vick was ever as good as Russell is, people would think he was the best QB in the league.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,621 Founders Club
    Wilson is the Joe Montana of his generation. Watch and see