lol your most recent example was over 15 years ago with two of the most stacked rosters in the history of the sport. Even then Pitt beating that Detroit team with having added Hossa after their previous cup was one of the biggest upsets ever.
Getting a repeat Finals is actually not very normal
The last instance prior to this Finals was the Detroit vs Pittsburgh Finals in 2008 and 2009
Prior to that the last rematch was in 1983 and 1984 where the Islanders won their 4th straight title in 1983 and then Oilers won their 1st title in 1984.
There were only 2 other instances in the post-Original Six era:
In 1977 and 1978 Montreal defeated Boston in both series in the middle of their 4 straight Cups (that Montreal team is on the short list of best teams ever)
In 1968 and 1969 Montreal beat St Louis in both years to win the Cup … I'd put a slight asterisk around this one because of how the league was separated with expansion and how ill-prepared the Western Conference teams (the New 6) were against the Eastern Conference teams (the Original 6)
The Original 6 era had some additional matchups but given the lack of turnover by the teams it's probably an apples to oranges comparison to today
So yes … "typically" the rematch has gone in the direction of the team that lost the prior year
Gotta give the panthers some credit. They made 2 Canadian teams think that they had hope to finally win the cup and then crushed them unmercifully. I enjoy this team more than the blackhawk/king runs for sure.
As a Dallas supporter seeing Skinner return to his normal shitty self is maddening as his high-end really has been in the 2 Western Conference Finals the last 2 years
Some of that is obviously on Dallas for not finding a way to get to him … but it's absolutely maddening him perform like a beer league goalie
At some point here in the next few days I'll work up an offseason primer for the Kraken and what things look like for them as we head into the Draft (big catalyst for trades) and free agency
If there is something specific that you'd like me to cover just let me know
That’s because Dallas is one of the most overrated hockey clubs in the west, right up there w/ the Wild… You don’t need a quality net minder to beat em. Just play West Conf hockey better, right now Edmonton is the best in the west. I’ve got 2 questions;
1: Edmonton somehow cashes in on the Otter fiasco and he ends up in Edmonton, do they win next year? Or..
2. Kraktards trade for McJesus chances? Does that make Seattle a contender or LA Gretz hope?
Dallas has made the West Finals each of the last 3 years … Minnesota hasn't won any of their last 9 playoff series and have won only 2 series in total in the last 20+ years.
That said Dallas has its own issues that they need to address (notably being a little more difficult to play against) but there are many teams in the NHL that would happily trade their situation for what Dallas is looking at over the next 4-5 years at minimum.
I think there's a good chance that the best of Edmonton's window has passed. There's a great unknown on what McDavid's next contract looks like. How much are they going to be able to pay for Bouchard vs does someone try to offer sheet him? They've largely leveraged their draft picks for short-term playoff runs and the path to replenish their roster is a challenge. The goaltending frankly is a mess (unless playing Dallas).
I would absolutely look at trading for McJesus if I was the Kraken GM and do believe that they have the assets to make a very compelling offer. There wouldn't be an asset in the organization that is off-limits if you were able to make that move with a contract extension attached.
Neither has Dallas so I’m sticking w/ the overrated…I think giving Bouchard a big contract is a waste of resources for Edm. He’s a great QB on the PP, but is a liability 5v5, slow and to many turnovers. If I was Edm I’d do a sign and trade for top Dman to pair w/ Eckholm. Trade Nurse’s bloated contract even eating money. Unload Kane and aardvark at the least one of em hope it’s enough to get Swayman. If Bouchard is part of that great!
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Can't bet against Gretzky
The ideal situation is that Edmonton wins a day after Alberta secedes so we can continue making fun of Canada.
lol your most recent example was over 15 years ago with two of the most stacked rosters in the history of the sport. Even then Pitt beating that Detroit team with having added Hossa after their previous cup was one of the biggest upsets ever.
Typically? 😆
Getting a repeat Finals is actually not very normal
The last instance prior to this Finals was the Detroit vs Pittsburgh Finals in 2008 and 2009
Prior to that the last rematch was in 1983 and 1984 where the Islanders won their 4th straight title in 1983 and then Oilers won their 1st title in 1984.
There were only 2 other instances in the post-Original Six era:
In 1977 and 1978 Montreal defeated Boston in both series in the middle of their 4 straight Cups (that Montreal team is on the short list of best teams ever)
In 1968 and 1969 Montreal beat St Louis in both years to win the Cup … I'd put a slight asterisk around this one because of how the league was separated with expansion and how ill-prepared the Western Conference teams (the New 6) were against the Eastern Conference teams (the Original 6)
The Original 6 era had some additional matchups but given the lack of turnover by the teams it's probably an apples to oranges comparison to today
So yes … "typically" the rematch has gone in the direction of the team that lost the prior year
Gotta give the panthers some credit. They made 2 Canadian teams think that they had hope to finally win the cup and then crushed them unmercifully. I enjoy this team more than the blackhawk/king runs for sure.
Narrator: Skinner did not show up in net.
As a Dallas supporter seeing Skinner return to his normal shitty self is maddening as his high-end really has been in the 2 Western Conference Finals the last 2 years
Some of that is obviously on Dallas for not finding a way to get to him … but it's absolutely maddening him perform like a beer league goalie
At some point here in the next few days I'll work up an offseason primer for the Kraken and what things look like for them as we head into the Draft (big catalyst for trades) and free agency
If there is something specific that you'd like me to cover just let me know
That’s because Dallas is one of the most overrated hockey clubs in the west, right up there w/ the Wild… You don’t need a quality net minder to beat em. Just play West Conf hockey better, right now Edmonton is the best in the west. I’ve got 2 questions;
1: Edmonton somehow cashes in on the Otter fiasco and he ends up in Edmonton, do they win next year? Or..
2. Kraktards trade for McJesus chances? Does that make Seattle a contender or LA Gretz hope?
Horrific take …
Dallas has made the West Finals each of the last 3 years … Minnesota hasn't won any of their last 9 playoff series and have won only 2 series in total in the last 20+ years.
That said Dallas has its own issues that they need to address (notably being a little more difficult to play against) but there are many teams in the NHL that would happily trade their situation for what Dallas is looking at over the next 4-5 years at minimum.
I think there's a good chance that the best of Edmonton's window has passed. There's a great unknown on what McDavid's next contract looks like. How much are they going to be able to pay for Bouchard vs does someone try to offer sheet him? They've largely leveraged their draft picks for short-term playoff runs and the path to replenish their roster is a challenge. The goaltending frankly is a mess (unless playing Dallas).
I would absolutely look at trading for McJesus if I was the Kraken GM and do believe that they have the assets to make a very compelling offer. There wouldn't be an asset in the organization that is off-limits if you were able to make that move with a contract extension attached.
Neither has Dallas so I’m sticking w/ the overrated…I think giving Bouchard a big contract is a waste of resources for Edm. He’s a great QB on the PP, but is a liability 5v5, slow and to many turnovers. If I was Edm I’d do a sign and trade for top Dman to pair w/ Eckholm. Trade Nurse’s bloated contract even eating money. Unload Kane and aardvark at the least one of em hope it’s enough to get Swayman. If Bouchard is part of that great!