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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tequilla said:

    In all seriousness, I see +21 as Vegas being ridiculous.

    Football is a 3 phase game with coaching also needing to be considered in the equation.

    Offense: Clearly Oregon has an advantage here. Turnovers will be a big issue in this game as neither team has thrown an INT so far this year. We're +14 in turnover margin while Oregon is +9. IMO, this is going to be a key element in this game as our defense needs to find ways to create a few turnovers. UW needs to be able to churn out one of their best efforts on the ground in this game and it wouldn't hurt to get a few touches for Shaq in this game. Miles will need to be able to make 2-3 key throws in the passing game.

    Defense: We are giving up 21 a game compared to 24 per game for Oregon. We're now giving up under 400 yards per game and are giving up close to 80 yards fewer per game than Oregon. Our ability to create turnovers is also better. This is a phase of the game that the UW MUST win if it is going to beat Oregon.

    Special Teams: We appear to have a decided edge in the kicking game. Van Winkle is a legitimate threat to make a FG whereas Oregon's only attempted 4 FGs this year (and none from 40 or beyond). The punting game appears to be relatively even although Durkee's performance against Stanford would lead one to believe that his ability to perform in a big game could be an advantage for us. Once an area where Oregon exploited opponents, their special teams have so far been pedestrian by their standards leading me to believe that we may have an edge in the return game.

    Coaching: Petersen >>> Helfrich. No comments needed here.

    So when you break it down, this is really a strength on strength and weakness on weakness game. It will be absolutely critical for our front 7 to be able to control the LOS against Oregon. With Shelton's ability to dominate the middle, I like our ability to at least be able to force Oregon to have to slowly move the ball down the field if they focus on the up the middle runs (and patience isn't their strength). Our ability to then focus some of our LB play to maintain the edges as well as to penetrate up the field will disrupt Oregon's east/west running game. One area of concern that I do have is that if our front is able to get enough pressure on Mariota such that he steps up in the pocket and kills us on scramble runs ... so rush integrity will be important. IF we're able to make Oregon fairly one dimensional in the passing game, that's historically been a sign of being able to beat them. Offensively, we need to be able to sustain drives and ensure that we're consistently winning the field position battle. It's imperative that if we don't score on drives, we force Oregon to go long fields to score TDs. If we can get to +2 in the turnover game, then I'm really liking our chances.

    In the end, I don't see Oregon scoring in the 40s on us this year with our ability to get up the field on just about everybody we've played combined with Oregon's problems on the OL. I'd be surprised if they got in the 30s unless we help them with turnovers or special teams play. I do think that Oregon's defense has shown consistent struggles this year against the run without sacrificing the pass. We're hitting the part of the season where I think we can expect Miles to put together a game where you start scratching your head wondering where that came from in the good way (see the Swoopes kid from Texas last week against Oklahoma). A defensive and/or special teams score would be absolutely huge for us.

    Finally, there's a certain arrogance that I see from Oregon wearing the 1994 uniforms against us. It's a bit of a rubbing our noses in the past as well as going to the Lane Kiffin school of shit talking with the whole Duckade of Dominance. We know that the streak is going to end at some point. We know that the UW for the first time in the last 11 years has the best HC on the sideline. And quite possibly for the first time in that time period we have the better defense. I'm not sure we win this game or not. But I'd be absolutely shocked if we got to the 4th quarter this year and we weren't in position to win the game. The more I see of the conference, the more I'm convinced that the best unit in the conference is Stanford's defense. I think the UW defense is in the Top 3-5 units in the conference. I also think that Stanford's still probably the best team in the conference. We should have no fear going into this game.

    Disagree, even if somewhere in there you picked UW to win 81-0.
  • Canard
    Canard Member Posts: 504
    Coaching: Petersen >>> Helfrich. No comments needed here.
    Lol. I saw STAN @ UW. Peterman can go toe to toe on "fucking stupid coaching" with anyone in the game.

    Push with Slingblade,
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,449 Founders Club
    Canard said:

    Coaching: Petersen >>> Helfrich. No comments needed here.
    Lol. I saw STAN @ UW. Peterman can go toe to toe on "fucking stupid coaching" with anyone in the game.

    Push with Slingblade,

    Some perspective, quook:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA7G7AV-LT8
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Canard said:

    Coaching: Petersen >>> Helfrich. No comments needed here.
    Lol. I saw STAN @ UW. Peterman can go toe to toe on "fucking stupid coaching" with anyone in the game.

    Push with Slingblade,
    He also went 92-12 at Boise.
    If you had just watched Alabama Auburn last year and no other game you would say the same thing about Saban, coaches have bad games. If it becomes a trend, Petersen will definitely be up for criticism
  • Canard
    Canard Member Posts: 504
    dhdawg said:

    Canard said:

    Coaching: Petersen >>> Helfrich. No comments needed here.
    Lol. I saw STAN @ UW. Peterman can go toe to toe on "fucking stupid coaching" with anyone in the game.

    Push with Slingblade,
    He also went 92-12 at Boise.
    If you had just watched Alabama Auburn last year and no other game you would say the same thing about Saban, coaches have bad games. If it becomes a trend, Petersen will definitely be up for criticism

    Cool story bro. You'd think his caliber of genius could handle fucking Nevada with the BCS on the line, no?

    Yeah, he beat Oregon twice, but his Johnny Kreese is now in L.A.

    Coaches have bad games? That's not strong enough phrasing to capture dropping one by double digits to Try Loserham.

  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,449 Founders Club
    edited October 2014
    Canard said:

    dhdawg said:

    Canard said:

    Coaching: Petersen >>> Helfrich. No comments needed here.
    Lol. I saw STAN @ UW. Peterman can go toe to toe on "fucking stupid coaching" with anyone in the game.

    Push with Slingblade,
    He also went 92-12 at Boise.
    If you had just watched Alabama Auburn last year and no other game you would say the same thing about Saban, coaches have bad games. If it becomes a trend, Petersen will definitely be up for criticism
    Cool story bro. You'd think his caliber of genius could handle fucking Nevada with the BCS on the line, no?

    Yeah, he beat Oregon twice, but his Johnny Kreese is now in L.A.

    Coaches have bad games? That's not strong enough phrasing to capture dropping one by double digits to Try Loserham.



    What would be the strong enough phrase to capture the Zero's losing to Try Loserham in '01 at home 49-42, when the Zero's were ranked #5?

    Would there be a different phrase, or the same, in '95 when they lost to Try ranked #12.





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  • beelzebub
    beelzebub Member Posts: 361
    How do u not come within 3 td's within last 10 years and think u can win? Even more delusional than ever lol
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Tequilla said:

    In all seriousness, I see +21 as Vegas being ridiculous.

    Football is a 3 phase game with coaching also needing to be considered in the equation.

    Offense: Clearly Oregon has an advantage here. Turnovers will be a big issue in this game as neither team has thrown an INT so far this year. We're +14 in turnover margin while Oregon is +9. IMO, this is going to be a key element in this game as our defense needs to find ways to create a few turnovers. UW needs to be able to churn out one of their best efforts on the ground in this game and it wouldn't hurt to get a few touches for Shaq in this game. Miles will need to be able to make 2-3 key throws in the passing game.

    Defense: We are giving up 21 a game compared to 24 per game for Oregon. We're now giving up under 400 yards per game and are giving up close to 80 yards fewer per game than Oregon. Our ability to create turnovers is also better. This is a phase of the game that the UW MUST win if it is going to beat Oregon.

    Special Teams: We appear to have a decided edge in the kicking game. Van Winkle is a legitimate threat to make a FG whereas Oregon's only attempted 4 FGs this year (and none from 40 or beyond). The punting game appears to be relatively even although Durkee's performance against Stanford would lead one to believe that his ability to perform in a big game could be an advantage for us. Once an area where Oregon exploited opponents, their special teams have so far been pedestrian by their standards leading me to believe that we may have an edge in the return game.

    Coaching: Petersen >>> Helfrich. No comments needed here.

    So when you break it down, this is really a strength on strength and weakness on weakness game. It will be absolutely critical for our front 7 to be able to control the LOS against Oregon. With Shelton's ability to dominate the middle, I like our ability to at least be able to force Oregon to have to slowly move the ball down the field if they focus on the up the middle runs (and patience isn't their strength). Our ability to then focus some of our LB play to maintain the edges as well as to penetrate up the field will disrupt Oregon's east/west running game. One area of concern that I do have is that if our front is able to get enough pressure on Mariota such that he steps up in the pocket and kills us on scramble runs ... so rush integrity will be important. IF we're able to make Oregon fairly one dimensional in the passing game, that's historically been a sign of being able to beat them. Offensively, we need to be able to sustain drives and ensure that we're consistently winning the field position battle. It's imperative that if we don't score on drives, we force Oregon to go long fields to score TDs. If we can get to +2 in the turnover game, then I'm really liking our chances.

    In the end, I don't see Oregon scoring in the 40s on us this year with our ability to get up the field on just about everybody we've played combined with Oregon's problems on the OL. I'd be surprised if they got in the 30s unless we help them with turnovers or special teams play. I do think that Oregon's defense has shown consistent struggles this year against the run without sacrificing the pass. We're hitting the part of the season where I think we can expect Miles to put together a game where you start scratching your head wondering where that came from in the good way (see the Swoopes kid from Texas last week against Oklahoma). A defensive and/or special teams score would be absolutely huge for us.O

    Finally, there's a certain arrogance that I see from Oregon wearing the 1994 uniforms against us. It's a bit of a rubbing our noses in the past as well as going to the Lane Kiffin school of shit talking with the whole Duckade of Dominance. We know that the streak is going to end at some point. We know that the UW for the first time in the last 11 years has the best HC on the sideline. And quite possibly for the first time in that time period we have the better defense. I'm not sure we win this game or not. But I'd be absolutely shocked if we got to the 4th quarter this year and we weren't in position to win the game. The more I see of the conference, the more I'm convinced that the best unit in the conference is Stanford's defense. I think the UW defense is in the Top 3-5 units in the conference. I also think that Stanford's still probably the best team in the conference. We should have no fear going into this game.

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    I like the doogs in this one.

    Seriously, I do. I'm drinking the kool-aid.

    Our d-line is only giving up 3.1 yards per rushing attempt, and I think our secondary is VASTLY improved since the start of the year.

    If we score over 28, we will win this game. I don't think Oregon scores more than that.

    Do you have red S's on your helmets? No. You couldn't hold EWU to under 50 points and you think you'll hold Oregon to under 30? That's some potent kool aid you're drinking.
    Like the arizona game? ;)
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,386
    This may turn out to be UCLA's season of unfulfilled expectations. They finished last season 5-1 (including a bowl win) and then started 4-0 (but they only beat UVa by 8, the Texas win is looking worse each week, and ASU isn't the same without Taylor Kelly) but they are now in danger of having the wheels come off with a loss @ Cal. Criticism of the coaches has usually centered on their staff having a bunch of guys who can recruit but can't coach guys up. That sure looks the case with Adrian Glenn and is Taylor Mazzone qualified to be a Pac-12 QBs coach? Demetrius Martin is their DB's coach (we all know about him) and Jeff Ulbrich is in his 1st year ever as a DC (Lou Spanos left after 2013 to be the LBs coach of the Tennessee Titans)...Mora and Ulbrich may be two meats whose clashes may get worse.

    As for UW - Oregon, Jake Fisher is arguably Oregon's best OL. But, he's a RT who is playing LT and coming off a knee injury. Taking his place at RT has been Matt Pierson (walk-on) with a promising true frosh (Tyrell Crosby) as the swing back-up who started 3 games when Fisher was out. We know Grasu is good but he'll need help from Stevens and Hunt if Oregon wants to have a shot at running inside (even then, they could have difficulty scraping to the 2nd level to get to Timu and Shaq). So considering that, guys like Kikaha, A. Hudson, and E. Hudson will have plenty one on one opportunities with Pierson and Fisher (natural position is RT and he missed multiple games before the UCLA game with a knee inj ury). With all of that said, we should be able to get some pressure on Mariota with just 4 rushers (hopefully we see Kikaha and Littleton standing up on the edges).

    At the same time, it's not like we're perfect on the OL with Riva getting injured again so RS-Frosh Coleman Shelton should another start at RT. He played well enough at Cal and bounced back nicely after having trouble with Stanford's Henry Anderson. Miles will have to hit some passes in the intermediate passing game and will need protection if U-Dub is to beat the spread (let alone winning the game). We should the ball decently well, especially Lavon Coleman is fed and maybe we'll see a planned QB draw from Miles in 4th down territory.

    I'm a little surprised that special teams and penalties haven't been that great under Petersen but the general trend seems to be improvement. Each week our team is with Petersen and their's isn't with Chip Kelly is a positive in the coaching column.

  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    In Peterman I trust:

    24-20

    Huskies
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    Canard said:

    dhdawg said:

    Canard said:

    Coaching: Petersen >>> Helfrich. No comments needed here.
    Lol. I saw STAN @ UW. Peterman can go toe to toe on "fucking stupid coaching" with anyone in the game.

    Push with Slingblade,
    He also went 92-12 at Boise.
    If you had just watched Alabama Auburn last year and no other game you would say the same thing about Saban, coaches have bad games. If it becomes a trend, Petersen will definitely be up for criticism
    Cool story bro. You'd think his caliber of genius could handle fucking Nevada with the BCS on the line, no?

    Yeah, he beat Oregon twice, but his Johnny Kreese is now in L.A.

    Coaches have bad games? That's not strong enough phrasing to capture dropping one by double digits to Try Loserham.



    Saban and Harbaugh also lost to Willingham.

    You really don't get it.
  • Canard
    Canard Member Posts: 504

    Canard said:

    dhdawg said:

    Canard said:

    Coaching: Petersen >>> Helfrich. No comments needed here.
    Lol. I saw STAN @ UW. Peterman can go toe to toe on "fucking stupid coaching" with anyone in the game.

    Push with Slingblade,
    He also went 92-12 at Boise.
    If you had just watched Alabama Auburn last year and no other game you would say the same thing about Saban, coaches have bad games. If it becomes a trend, Petersen will definitely be up for criticism
    Cool story bro. You'd think his caliber of genius could handle fucking Nevada with the BCS on the line, no?

    Yeah, he beat Oregon twice, but his Johnny Kreese is now in L.A.

    Coaches have bad games? That's not strong enough phrasing to capture dropping one by double digits to Try Loserham.

    Saban and Harbaugh also lost to Willingham.

    You really don't get it.

    Especially after Peterman joins the "lost by 21+ parade," I still won't be getting it.

    You've played a beavis-soft OOC schedule. You dropped the only "name brand" game you've played. And peterman went full retard on the sidelines during the contest.

    I don't have a boatload of faith in Slingblade, but no one is quaking in their shoes about a bunch of blacurple clad cupcake munchers touting their D—who has played a who's who of offensive shitstorms, the exception being an FCS squad that dropped 52 points on you at home.
  • RavennaDawg
    RavennaDawg Member Posts: 846
    Oregon's Greatest Team of All Time lost to Willingham.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    I love the bloodlust this week.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Oregon's Greatest Team of All Time lost to Chizik.

  • Quack_Addict
    Quack_Addict Member Posts: 30
    I will readily admit that I thought last year was UW's best chance to end the streak, but after seeing how OR has played this year, due to the OL injuries and the D being the worst in a decade, I have to wonder if UW's best chance at ending the streak may be this year.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited October 2014

    Oregon's Greatest Team of All Time lost to Malzahn.



    Chizik was just a figurehead. Sorta like the douche bag projection of the Wizard of Oz. The real wizard was behind the curtains. Hth.
  • Quack_Addict
    Quack_Addict Member Posts: 30
    edited October 2014

    I will readily admit that I thought last year was UW's best chance to end the streak, but after seeing how OR has played this year, due to the OL injuries and the D being the worst in a decade, I have to wonder if UW's best chance at ending the streak may be this year.

    Sark was the coach last year.

    Oregon would have run the streak to 30 in a row if not for Saint Pat.
    Good point, El Siete was more of a politician than a CFB coach. It would seem UW upgraded in a big way by losing him to USC while gaining Petersen. Although, its rather sad for both our fan bases that Petersen and Helfrich want to have babies together.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited October 2014


    Chizik was just a figurehead. Sorta like the douche bag projection of the Wizard of Oz. The real wizard was behind the curtains. Hth.

    To be fair, Oregon lost to whoever the bag man was that delivered the money to the Newton family.

    That was a really sneaky, underhanded and well concealed hillbilly plot. Kind of like this one:

    image
  • Quack_Addict
    Quack_Addict Member Posts: 30


    Chizik was just a figurehead. Sorta like the douche bag projection of the Wizard of Oz. The real wizard was behind the curtains. Hth.

    To be fair, Oregon lost to whoever the bag man was that delivered the money to the Newton family.
    That was a really sneaky, underhanded and well concealed hillbilly plot. Kind of like this one:

    image

    Ha! That sure looks rather reminiscent of CAL versus OR.
  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,271 Standard Supporter

    Oregon's Greatest Team of All Time lost to Willingham.

    huh?
  • Quack_Addict
    Quack_Addict Member Posts: 30
    dtd said:

    Oregon's Greatest Team of All Time lost to Willingham.

    huh?
    Has me confused, too, because it would be hard to argue that the best OR team of all time was the same OR team that was the first, last, and only team to ever win the PAC10 by going undefeated (when we still played round robin / every team) in 2010.
  • Canard
    Canard Member Posts: 504
    dhdawg said:

    Canard said:

    Canard said:

    dhdawg said:

    Canard said:

    Coaching: Petersen >>> Helfrich. No comments needed here.
    Lol. I saw STAN @ UW. Peterman can go toe to toe on "fucking stupid coaching" with anyone in the game.

    Push with Slingblade,
    He also went 92-12 at Boise.
    If you had just watched Alabama Auburn last year and no other game you would say the same thing about Saban, coaches have bad games. If it becomes a trend, Petersen will definitely be up for criticism
    Cool story bro. You'd think his caliber of genius could handle fucking Nevada with the BCS on the line, no?

    Yeah, he beat Oregon twice, but his Johnny Kreese is now in L.A.

    Coaches have bad games? That's not strong enough phrasing to capture dropping one by double digits to Try Loserham.

    Saban and Harbaugh also lost to Willingham.

    You really don't get it.
    Especially after Peterman joins the "lost by 21+ parade," I still won't be getting it.

    You've played a beavis-soft OOC schedule. You dropped the only "name brand" game you've played. And peterman went full retard on the sidelines during the contest.

    I don't have a boatload of faith in Slingblade, but no one is quaking in their shoes about a bunch of blacurple clad cupcake munchers touting their D—who has played a who's who of offensive shitstorms, the exception being an FCS squad that dropped 52 points on you at home.
    It's logical to think Oregon wins easily. The line is 21 for a reason, but don't be a moron. How exactly is Cal an offensive shitstorm? Cal scored 21 more points against Arizona that Oregon did. Go to doogman and Educk with that shit. HH is for real football talk.
    If you can't see a team who's dropped 31, 55, 59, 60, and 45 against 3 pac-12 and one B1G team before facing UW is an "offensive shitstorm" than I can't help you


    I see. Beating the Bay Area Dykes is the standard of excellence now.
  • Canard
    Canard Member Posts: 504

    I will readily admit that I thought last year was UW's best chance to end the streak, but after seeing how OR has played this year, due to the OL injuries and the D being the worst in a decade, I have to wonder if UW's best chance at ending the streak may be this year.

    They're bringing a QB who makes Keith Price look like the love child of Brett Farvruh and the White House Wookie, dipped into the River Styx by his teef.