This truly is a Chris Petersen team
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If UW could be like WSU, cal or colorado and "sling the ball around 60 times", they would. And with their defense they would be ranked in the top 10.RoadDawg55 said:
We could be like WSU, Cal, or Colorado and sling the ball around 60 times and rank a lot higher. I don't think you are totally wrong, but it's not all bad with the offense. Ideally, the offense would be better. The offense is run heavy and they take care of the ball. We also have a great kick returner and a defense that forces turnovers. LIPO, but Aubbie's post is spot on as of right now.MikeDamone said:
UW is sitting 10th in total offense in the conference. This, despite playing 5 dreadful defenses. I'm not quite ready to say they are solid.dnc said:
They aren't a good offense by any means, but solid is pretty close to fair. Not turning the ball over goes a long way for me. Cal might be "the worst defense in the league" but they're a lot closer to a normal defense in this league than Stanford is. I agree it's possible we lose 3 or 4 more conference games but I don't agree it's just as likely as winning 6. This staff has already proven they address weaknesses and coach their guys up, I see no reason to think that won't continue.MikeDamone said:
Reminds me of the year sark was going to win 10 games because the last three wins were (assumed).Tequilla said:The point Damone is that when you throw in Colorado, the Arizona schools, Washington St, and as Road Dawg pointed out UCLA, win those games and you are already up to 6 conference wins. Only Oregon (which has a swiss cheese front line of the defense) and Oregon St (who we gashed badly last year on the ground) remain.
Point being is that while I'm certainly not suggesting a full fledge dooging that says that we're going to win out, the number of quality defenses left on our schedule can be EASILY counted on one hand.
Also, at this point, it appears to be clear that Stanford and UW play defense in this conference. For everybody else, it's optional.
So you're on record saying this is a good offense? As bad as cal is on defense, UW still couldn't score a touchdown in the last 30 minutes of the games..and yes, they were trying to.
This team could lose 3-4 more conference games just as EASILY as your scenario of winning 6. The offense needs to improve. Saying they are solid, which the original post suggested, isn't a fact.
Auburns post is always spot on because he changes it every week. -
Then why didn't Boise State do that when they had Kellen Moore?MikeDamone said:
If UW could be like WSU, cal or colorado and "sling the ball around 60 times", they would. And with their defense they would be ranked in the top 10.RoadDawg55 said:
We could be like WSU, Cal, or Colorado and sling the ball around 60 times and rank a lot higher. I don't think you are totally wrong, but it's not all bad with the offense. Ideally, the offense would be better. The offense is run heavy and they take care of the ball. We also have a great kick returner and a defense that forces turnovers. LIPO, but Aubbie's post is spot on as of right now.MikeDamone said:
UW is sitting 10th in total offense in the conference. This, despite playing 5 dreadful defenses. I'm not quite ready to say they are solid.dnc said:
They aren't a good offense by any means, but solid is pretty close to fair. Not turning the ball over goes a long way for me. Cal might be "the worst defense in the league" but they're a lot closer to a normal defense in this league than Stanford is. I agree it's possible we lose 3 or 4 more conference games but I don't agree it's just as likely as winning 6. This staff has already proven they address weaknesses and coach their guys up, I see no reason to think that won't continue.MikeDamone said:
Reminds me of the year sark was going to win 10 games because the last three wins were (assumed).Tequilla said:The point Damone is that when you throw in Colorado, the Arizona schools, Washington St, and as Road Dawg pointed out UCLA, win those games and you are already up to 6 conference wins. Only Oregon (which has a swiss cheese front line of the defense) and Oregon St (who we gashed badly last year on the ground) remain.
Point being is that while I'm certainly not suggesting a full fledge dooging that says that we're going to win out, the number of quality defenses left on our schedule can be EASILY counted on one hand.
Also, at this point, it appears to be clear that Stanford and UW play defense in this conference. For everybody else, it's optional.
So you're on record saying this is a good offense? As bad as cal is on defense, UW still couldn't score a touchdown in the last 30 minutes of the games..and yes, they were trying to.
This team could lose 3-4 more conference games just as EASILY as your scenario of winning 6. The offense needs to improve. Saying they are solid, which the original post suggested, isn't a fact.
Auburns post is always spot on because he changes it every week. -
The problem is the O line needs to step the fuck up and a runningback needs to show up and charge through Duck cunt this weekend, and not relinquish the fucking job.
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This team is as close to being a Chris Petersen team as any team coached/recruited by Sark for 4 years and Petersen for 1 year can be.
I still think we are going 10-3. We might get there by relying too much on an opportunistic defense, but I think we will get there. I think we are much better than we were in August in Honolulu, and we are continuing to improve. -
At this point, I think the defense has a higher upside than the offense for the rest of this year at least. Shutting down Cal was a big deal, IMO.
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RoadDawg55 said:
Then why didn't Boise State do that when they had Kellen Moore?MikeDamone said:
If UW could be like WSU, cal or colorado and "sling the ball around 60 times", they would. And with their defense they would be ranked in the top 10.RoadDawg55 said:
We could be like WSU, Cal, or Colorado and sling the ball around 60 times and rank a lot higher. I don't think you are totally wrong, but it's not all bad with the offense. Ideally, the offense would be better. The offense is run heavy and they take care of the ball. We also have a great kick returner and a defense that forces turnovers. LIPO, but Aubbie's post is spot on as of right now.MikeDamone said:
UW is sitting 10th in total offense in the conference. This, despite playing 5 dreadful defenses. I'm not quite ready to say they are solid.dnc said:
They aren't a good offense by any means, but solid is pretty close to fair. Not turning the ball over goes a long way for me. Cal might be "the worst defense in the league" but they're a lot closer to a normal defense in this league than Stanford is. I agree it's possible we lose 3 or 4 more conference games but I don't agree it's just as likely as winning 6. This staff has already proven they address weaknesses and coach their guys up, I see no reason to think that won't continue.MikeDamone said:
Reminds me of the year sark was going to win 10 games because the last three wins were (assumed).Tequilla said:The point Damone is that when you throw in Colorado, the Arizona schools, Washington St, and as Road Dawg pointed out UCLA, win those games and you are already up to 6 conference wins. Only Oregon (which has a swiss cheese front line of the defense) and Oregon St (who we gashed badly last year on the ground) remain.
Point being is that while I'm certainly not suggesting a full fledge dooging that says that we're going to win out, the number of quality defenses left on our schedule can be EASILY counted on one hand.
Also, at this point, it appears to be clear that Stanford and UW play defense in this conference. For everybody else, it's optional.
So you're on record saying this is a good offense? As bad as cal is on defense, UW still couldn't score a touchdown in the last 30 minutes of the games..and yes, they were trying to.
This team could lose 3-4 more conference games just as EASILY as your scenario of winning 6. The offense needs to improve. Saying they are solid, which the original post suggested, isn't a fact.
Auburns post is always spot on because he changes it every week.
If uw was as productive on offense as BSU in 2011, I would feel good about a playoff shot right now. They would be 6-0 with and favored this week.
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For the record:
Boise State Offense Quick Facts:
5th Nationally in Scoring in 2011 (44.2 Pts/Game)
2nd Nationally in Scoring in 2010 (45.1 Pts/Game)
1st Nationally in Scoring in 2009 (42.2 Pts/Game)
Nation’s Highest Scoring Team Since 2000 (41.9 Pts/Game)
#9 Nationally in Total Offense in 2011
#4 Nationally in Pass Efficiency in 2011
Allowed the Fewest Sacks in the Nation in 2009 and 2011
If we can approach these numbers, I will be happy with the offense.
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I like to pretend that points scored by the defense don't count on the SCOREBOARD!, I do that.
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I like to pretend the offense scored more than 6 points against Stanford. I do that.doogsinparadise said:I like to pretend that points scored by the defense don't count on the SCOREBOARD!, I do that.
The point is lack of offensive productivity will cost teams games. Defensive scoring can't be counted on to make up the difference over the long run -
Huh? You missed the point. At what point do the weekly defense/st score(s) not count as flukes?MikeDamone said:
I like to pretend the offense scored more than 6 points against Stanford. I do that.doogsinparadise said:I like to pretend that points scored by the defense don't count on the SCOREBOARD!, I do that.
