This truly is a Chris Petersen team
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The point Damone is that when you throw in Colorado, the Arizona schools, Washington St, and as Road Dawg pointed out UCLA, win those games and you are already up to 6 conference wins. Only Oregon (which has a swiss cheese front line of the defense) and Oregon St (who we gashed badly last year on the ground) remain.
Point being is that while I'm certainly not suggesting a full fledge dooging that says that we're going to win out, the number of quality defenses left on our schedule can be EASILY counted on one hand.
Also, at this point, it appears to be clear that Stanford and UW play defense in this conference. For everybody else, it's optional. -
Agree on Peters.
I'm dooging it up anyways so may as well keep going. The first long drive they had was absolute bullshit with the 30 yards and 2 first downs they were gifted. Complete garbage. The drive they actually scored, I wouldn't tell Peters to play that any other way when they stopped them around midfield. The confusion I'll give you, Sidney Jones/coaches fucked that up which should be a red flag to the coaches for this week. Can't do that shit against Oregon. Kevin King also needs to be better or Shaq and Baker need to take the 2 deeps with Bierria subbing in for Shaq. I get what they're doing though, King is long and athletic, great for redzone fades. All of our deficiencies can be corrected, unless Tony Washington gets on Miles and he can't deal with the pressure, which would be the back breaker this upcoming game.TommySQC said:dhdawg said:
I thought the team has been fairly disciplined.TommySQC said:Disciplined? Lots of penalties and mistakes. Muffing a punt inside the 10 only to get lucky Cal bounced it out of thee endzone. Confusion coming out of the half. Trying to run out the clock then snapping it waaay to soon. Throwing a deep post on first down up 31-7 with Cyler's arm.
Disagree.
They have taken care of the ball, as emphasized by Peterman.
As for the penalties, how many have been presnap/lack of focus.
Not many. And 45 of the 75 yards of penalties last week were that ticky tack kick ball, the peelback on Perkins which was total garbage. And the chop block which was also a bad call.
I don't buy that they've lacked discipline.
Penalties are not the only factor. Also on Cal's lone TD drive, the defense gave up a couple plays because they were waiting for the call from the sideline. One was a first down on 3rd and 8. Then the illegal sub as well. I didn't keep track of everything but I have been disappointed.
And Timu has been playing this for way too long to get sucked up like he did a couple of times.
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Why?dhdawg said:A big part of the improvement on 3rd down would be getting Kasen more involved. I really hope this isn't a lost season for him
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Reminds me of the year sark was going to win 10 games because the last three wins were (assumed).Tequilla said:The point Damone is that when you throw in Colorado, the Arizona schools, Washington St, and as Road Dawg pointed out UCLA, win those games and you are already up to 6 conference wins. Only Oregon (which has a swiss cheese front line of the defense) and Oregon St (who we gashed badly last year on the ground) remain.
Point being is that while I'm certainly not suggesting a full fledge dooging that says that we're going to win out, the number of quality defenses left on our schedule can be EASILY counted on one hand.
Also, at this point, it appears to be clear that Stanford and UW play defense in this conference. For everybody else, it's optional.
So you're on record saying this is a good offense? As bad as cal is on defense, UW still couldn't score a touchdown in the last 30 minutes of the games..and yes, they were trying to.
This team could lose 3-4 more conference games just as EASILY as your scenario of winning 6. The offense needs to improve. Saying they are solid, which the original post suggested, isn't a fact.
This is classic after a win Auburndoog. You should all know the drill by now -
They aren't a good offense by any means, but solid is pretty close to fair. Not turning the ball over goes a long way for me. Cal might be "the worst defense in the league" but they're a lot closer to the mean defense in this league than Stanford is. I agree it's possible we lose 3 or 4 more conference games but I don't agree it's just as likely as winning 6. This staff has already proven they address weaknesses and coach their guys up, I see no reason to think that won't continue.MikeDamone said:
Reminds me of the year sark was going to win 10 games because the last three wins were (assumed).Tequilla said:The point Damone is that when you throw in Colorado, the Arizona schools, Washington St, and as Road Dawg pointed out UCLA, win those games and you are already up to 6 conference wins. Only Oregon (which has a swiss cheese front line of the defense) and Oregon St (who we gashed badly last year on the ground) remain.
Point being is that while I'm certainly not suggesting a full fledge dooging that says that we're going to win out, the number of quality defenses left on our schedule can be EASILY counted on one hand.
Also, at this point, it appears to be clear that Stanford and UW play defense in this conference. For everybody else, it's optional.
So you're on record saying this is a good offense? As bad as cal is on defense, UW still couldn't score a touchdown in the last 30 minutes of the games..and yes, they were trying to.
This team could lose 3-4 more conference games just as EASILY as your scenario of winning 6. The offense needs to improve. Saying they are solid, which the original post suggested, isn't a fact. -
I was on record as saying that I thought that Miles could replace Price ... he's struggled to date in that regard. Missing the Spring was clearly more of a problem for him than most of us (myself included) expected. I will give him credit for taking care of the ball.
This will not be a top half of the conference offense. It's just flat out not going to happen.
But this doesn't have to be a great offense for this team to win. It doesn't even need to be particularly good. What it needs to do is start by not making mistakes. By capitalizing on short fields when provided. And make sure that they don't put the defense and special teams in bad positions.
Whether the defense or special teams scores every week, who knows. Probably not. But I do think that it's reasonable to expect that they'll create an opportunity or two that gives a short field.
If in total we can find ourselves in a position to score in the upper 20s to low 30s every game the rest of the way, then I'm going to take my chances week in and week out.
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Would you rather be throwing a curl on third and 4 to a 6-3 230 pound Kasen Williams, or Jaydon Mickens and John Ross?sarktastic said:
Why?dhdawg said:A big part of the improvement on 3rd down would be getting Kasen more involved. I really hope this isn't a lost season for him
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UW is sitting 10th in total offense in the conference. This, despite playing 5 dreadful defenses. I'm not quite ready to say they are solid.dnc said:
They aren't a good offense by any means, but solid is pretty close to fair. Not turning the ball over goes a long way for me. Cal might be "the worst defense in the league" but they're a lot closer to a normal defense in this league than Stanford is. I agree it's possible we lose 3 or 4 more conference games but I don't agree it's just as likely as winning 6. This staff has already proven they address weaknesses and coach their guys up, I see no reason to think that won't continue.MikeDamone said:
Reminds me of the year sark was going to win 10 games because the last three wins were (assumed).Tequilla said:The point Damone is that when you throw in Colorado, the Arizona schools, Washington St, and as Road Dawg pointed out UCLA, win those games and you are already up to 6 conference wins. Only Oregon (which has a swiss cheese front line of the defense) and Oregon St (who we gashed badly last year on the ground) remain.
Point being is that while I'm certainly not suggesting a full fledge dooging that says that we're going to win out, the number of quality defenses left on our schedule can be EASILY counted on one hand.
Also, at this point, it appears to be clear that Stanford and UW play defense in this conference. For everybody else, it's optional.
So you're on record saying this is a good offense? As bad as cal is on defense, UW still couldn't score a touchdown in the last 30 minutes of the games..and yes, they were trying to.
This team could lose 3-4 more conference games just as EASILY as your scenario of winning 6. The offense needs to improve. Saying they are solid, which the original post suggested, isn't a fact. -
We could be like WSU, Cal, or Colorado and sling the ball around 60 times and rank a lot higher. I don't think you are totally wrong, but it's not all bad with the offense. Ideally, the offense would be better. The offense is run heavy and they take care of the ball. We also have a great kick returner and a defense that forces turnovers. LIPO, but Aubbie's post is spot on as of right now.MikeDamone said:
UW is sitting 10th in total offense in the conference. This, despite playing 5 dreadful defenses. I'm not quite ready to say they are solid.dnc said:
They aren't a good offense by any means, but solid is pretty close to fair. Not turning the ball over goes a long way for me. Cal might be "the worst defense in the league" but they're a lot closer to a normal defense in this league than Stanford is. I agree it's possible we lose 3 or 4 more conference games but I don't agree it's just as likely as winning 6. This staff has already proven they address weaknesses and coach their guys up, I see no reason to think that won't continue.MikeDamone said:
Reminds me of the year sark was going to win 10 games because the last three wins were (assumed).Tequilla said:The point Damone is that when you throw in Colorado, the Arizona schools, Washington St, and as Road Dawg pointed out UCLA, win those games and you are already up to 6 conference wins. Only Oregon (which has a swiss cheese front line of the defense) and Oregon St (who we gashed badly last year on the ground) remain.
Point being is that while I'm certainly not suggesting a full fledge dooging that says that we're going to win out, the number of quality defenses left on our schedule can be EASILY counted on one hand.
Also, at this point, it appears to be clear that Stanford and UW play defense in this conference. For everybody else, it's optional.
So you're on record saying this is a good offense? As bad as cal is on defense, UW still couldn't score a touchdown in the last 30 minutes of the games..and yes, they were trying to.
This team could lose 3-4 more conference games just as EASILY as your scenario of winning 6. The offense needs to improve. Saying they are solid, which the original post suggested, isn't a fact. -
You keep saying this, as if it means something. UW has demonstrated a pretty consistent ability to create big plays with its defense and special teams. While Thompson's scoring binge has to regress to the mean at some point, there is no reason not to believe big plays will continue from those units. They're talented and well coached.MikeDamone said:The 35 point per game includes defensive scores.
With a 28-point halftime lead, Peterman played ball control in the second half. Do you honestly believe that, had UW needed more points after halftime, they couldn't get them?MikeDamone said:Cal might be the worst defensive UW will see all year and they were able to score 24 points.
